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Re: German/French creeping into your English

No, ich han ht nd Geburtstag, and of course German, French or Swiss German doesn’t interfere with my English after over 30 years living here - am still a Brit (I suppose)
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Re: German/French creeping into your English

My French creeps into my English, my English creeps into my Czech, my Russian creeps into my French, my German cteeps into all of the above. Since long time and for evers.

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No, ich han ht nd Geburtstag..am still a Brit (I suppose)
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I’m not sure what this thread was about, but will go with it. I find it really hard to speak “proper” English after over 30 years here. My job, which primarily entails writing many pages of English documentation delivering my results to people with the attention span of a goldfish requires it.

Daughter doesn’t like it when I speak German, and I just mix-in all kinds of German and Swiss German in my daily life (and if I’m missing a word I’ll throw in my French). The most irritating however has been in the past couple of days, when I’m watching a German Krimi with English untertitle, and I’m reading only the sub-titles. Get what I mean, oder?
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Re: German/French creeping into your English

Yes. I sometimes can't remember the English word for something quite normal. And for stuff that's specific, like Gemeinde, I just use the German. Sometimes I read SwissInfo and they do translate to the appropriate word - which actually makes it quite difficult with things like schools... I know FMS, not the English equivalent.

However, I've adopted the word "performant" = "Well performing" (for example a performant computer system). It's technically not English, but there isn't an appropriate English word so I've nicked it from the Germans.
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Im not sure what this thread was about, but will go with it. I find it really hard to speak proper English after over 30 years here. My job, which primarily entails writing many pages of English documentation delivering my results to people with the attention span of a goldfish requires it.

Daughter doesnt like it when I speak German, and I just mix-in all kinds of German and Swiss German in my daily life (and if Im missing a word Ill throw in my French). The most irritating however has been in the past couple of days, when Im watching a German Krimi with English untertitle, and Im reading only the sub-titles. Get what I mean, oder?
Everybody needs a break sometimes..I don't like switching from my regular NYC accent to SF or southern stuff. It happens without me wanting. C'est la vie. Speak German with your girl, you deserve her working on your correct speech a lil
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Old 14.03.2021, 18:30
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Yes. I sometimes can't remember the English word for something quite normal. And for stuff that's specific, like Gemeinde, I just use the German. Sometimes I read SwissInfo and they do translate to the appropriate word - which actually makes it quite difficult with things like schools... I know FMS, not the English equivalent.

However, I've adopted the word "performant" = "Well performing" (for example a performant computer system). It's technically not English, but there isn't an appropriate English word so I've nicked it from the Germans.
Excellent. I don't think they mind. There are quite a few unique French or Jewish words that just fit for me when nothing else does, tbh. Russian, too, when I speak with my family, we all speak Russian, English and German, too. My German is quite schreklich.
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Yes. I sometimes can't remember the English word for something quite normal. And for stuff that's specific, like Gemeinde, I just use the German. Sometimes I read SwissInfo and they do translate to the appropriate word - which actually makes it quite difficult with things like schools... I know FMS, not the English equivalent.

However, I've adopted the word "performant" = "Well performing" (for example a performant computer system). It's technically not English, but there isn't an appropriate English word so I've nicked it from the Germans.
Yes, I cant find the English words for things that I didnt use in the GB. Things like divorce, planting, actually most things. I need to look-up on-line for many things🥴
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Excellent. I don't think they mind. There are quite a few unique French or Jewish words that just fit for me when nothing else does, tbh. Russian, too, when I speak with my family, we all speak Russian, English and German, too. My German is quite schreklich.
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However, I've adopted the word "performant" = "Well performing" (for example a performant computer system). It's technically not English, but there isn't an appropriate English word so I've nicked it from the Germans.
From the French, ITYF. If German speakers use it too then they also nicked it from the French.
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Re: German/French creeping into your English

Yes. I no longer speak my mother tongue properly, nor English. My German has plateaued at B2, but has been creeping into my other languages.

At home we mostly speak English and pepper it liberally with German, especially when speaking about school and when we don't recall English terms in the moment. Sentences like "It does have Nachteile, but overall it's good..."
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Re: German/French creeping into your English

I mix, but only as a joke, so I often send "happy compleanno" to Italian friends!

My daughter will use Italian when she can't remember the English, especially when cooking (her job) despite 5 years of living in the US.

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Re: German/French creeping into your English

Been thinking about this- and yes, and no. Words creep in, because there is not a direct/accurate description in the other language/s- (Bac or Matu is not the same as A'Levels, and Chrismas Cake is not really 'Gteau de Nol, etc, etc) - but no changes in word order ever, I don't think.
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Re: German/French creeping into your English

Ain't pas de shei$$e Sprachen sind mescolrano tra loro dans my discours. And neither of those is my mother tongue.
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