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Re: DerDieDas Game

Wow... thanks for your comments, i made the website to help myself, but if you guys like it i can open the user system so all of you can also add words...

The correct article is the one which stays tinted, for example: das buch, if you click on der, der and die should be in black & white, and das stays green

Thanks!
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Wow... thanks for your comments, i made the website to help myself, but if you guys like it i can open the user system so all of you can also add words...
What would be great would be a random word function, so that you don't have to stop at the end of each category.

Great idea!
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Wow... thanks for your comments, i made the website to help myself, but if you guys like it i can open the user system so all of you can also add words...

The correct article is the one which stays tinted, for example: das buch, if you click on der, der and die should be in black & white, and das stays green

Thanks!
Thanks for this, nicely done. Has shown me that I need to brush up on my articles...

(Tiny UI tip: perhaps change the shape of the correct article's button at the same time you gray out the incorrect ones? Then people with colorblindness could learn from your tool as well )
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Well done! I think you had a great idea and I would be happy to contribute and add words.
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Peoples! Listen up, Swiss-German was invented for those of us that haven't got a clue about grammar. In Mundart you can generally smooth over and avoid giving a gender to any given object and look cool in the process. Nearly 5 million Swiss-German speakers can't be wrong. The worse your education, the heavier and less pronounceable your dialect should be. There are genuinely folk up in those hills that only farmyard animals can understand, the goats translate.

Easy innit?
Everything's 'das', right? So it's not really avoidance as such . . .
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Shortcut to German Noun Gender

Something I came across that is true most of the time concerning the atrocious gender system in German.

Words with the following endings usually have the following genders (most of the time).

Masculine:

-and/-ant
-ent
-er
-ig
-ismus
-ist
-ling
-or

As well as week, months, seasons, day (in the singular)

Feminine:

-ei
-enz
-heit
-keit
-ie
-ik
-in
-ion
-schaft
-tät
-ung

As well as most words having to do with flowers and trees

Neuter:

-nis
-ment
-o
-t(r)um

As well as many obvious foreign words like "Das Couch", "Das Internet", "Das Cafe", Das Theater.

Also when verbs act as nouns:

"Das Essen", "Das Rauchen"

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Not nearly as easy as Spanish, Portuguese, and even Russian, where you can usually look at the ending of the word and tell the gender, but you know.

I wish German speakers will adopt the Swiss German (and Turkish Immigrant) solution to gender..."D'Tasse", "D'Essen", "DeCouch"....

For some reason, of all the Germanic languages I'm familiar with, German decided to keep this archaic grammar form, when Dutch and English have pretty much dropped it...but oh well, can't change how millions speak (unless you are a dictator with a lot of fire power behind him).
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As well as many obvious foreign words like "Das Couch", "Das Internet", "Das Cafe", Das Theater.
It's "Die Couch".
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Words with the following endings usually have the following genders (most of the time).

Masculine:

-and/-ant
Only if the word is derived from a Latin Gerundium (Doktorand, Musikant). Otherwise, i's e.g. "Die Waterkant", "die Hand".
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It's "Die Couch".

Yes, you are right.

Sorry, I was thinking Das Sofa.

See...gender sucks.

The book I got some of this from is:

Langenscheidt: "German Grammar in a Nutshell"


very good, some of it I also picked up from the Berlitz class I took before coming here...
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Re: Shortcut to German Noun Gender

And just for fun, as I am aware that it does not help anybody but has a great untertainment value to me (and only me, I guess), my favourite rule about German genders:

Nouns derived from the third apophonic degree of strong verbs are all masculin and have integrated the i-class with metaphonic plural.

That probably only makes me admirative, though. But it works without exceptions: der Sprung, der Ritt, der Bund, der Zug, der Hieb...

Lovely.
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Re: Shortcut to German Noun Gender

Flemish still uses the "neuter" gender I think...and so does Albanian.
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Flemish still uses the "neuter" gender I think...and so does Albanian.
LOL, never expected Albanian to be progressive.
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Flemish still uses the "neuter" gender I think...and so does Albanian.
Dutch yes, Albanian no.
see overview here:
Compulsory language test for intending immigrants is on the cards, says Blocher
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One of the best German comedians. A turkish guy Kaya Yanar:
"Wieso der? Hat er schwanz oder was?" *lol* Apparently the turkish people already developed the D'


ok, then mr.bean is the best comedian of britain...
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Re: German pitfalls: genders and separable verbs

Inseparable Verbs

Verbs beginning with be, er, ver, zer, ent, emp, ge, weider, uber - do not separate.

This has probably been posted somewhere before but www.dict.cc is a fantastic English-German multilingual online resource dictionary.
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Hi all,
I few days ago i made this website to help myself learning new german vocubulary... i've just started a beginner course in Alpha schule :S
It's not a big deal, but maybe someone can find it useful... this is the website: http://www.derdiedasgame.com

PS: i add works as soon as i learn new vocubulary
PS2: It looks nice on my ipad

Wonderful work! Thanks for sharing.
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There are DIE DER and DAS rules that make learning German easy.

Everyone always told me I had to learn the article with each word which made me just give up on trying to learn things right (so I pretty much just said die to everything). I was only trying to learn how to make sentences properly when I found this book.

I bought it from amazon so I couldn't preview it first so when I opened it up and found lists of how to know what was der, die and das... I actually got excited...

Masculine nouns can be identified by the following characteristics:
1. Nouns that refer to males: der Vater, der Junge (father, boy)
2. Many nouns that end in -er, -en, and -el: der Lehrer, der Wagen, der Mantel (teacher, car, coat).
3. Days of the week, months, and seasons: der Montag, der Januar, der Herbst (Monday, January, autumn)
4. Foreign words with the accent on the last syllable: der Soldat, der Elefant (soldier, elephant).
5. Nouns formed from an infinitive minus the -en ending: der Besuch (besuchen), der Lohn (lohnen) (visit, wages)
6. Many nouns that form their plural by (umlaut) + e: der Brief (Briefe), der Satz (die Sätze) letter, sentence)
7. Nouns that end in -ich, -ig, -ismus, -ist, -ling, and -us: der Teppich, der Käfig, der Kommunismus, der Kapitalist, der Lehrling, der Rythmus (carpet, cage, communism, capitalist, apprentice, rhythm).

Feminine nouns can be identified by the following characteristics:
1. Nouns that refer to females: die Mutter, die Frau (mother, woman or wife)
2. Names of numerals: die Eins, die Hundert (one, hundred)
3. Names of many rivers: die Elbe, die Mosel (the Elbe, the Moselle)
4. Many nouns ending in -e: die Lampe, die Ernte (lamp, harvest)
5. Nouns ending in -in that identify females in professions: die Lehrerin, die Aertzin (teacher, physician)
6. Many nouns ending in -a: die Kamera, die Pizza (camera, pizza)
7. Many Nouns that form their plural by -(e)n: die Tante (die Tanten), die Zeitschrift (die Zeitschriften) (aunt, magazine)
8. Nouns that end in -ei, -heit, -keit, -ie, -ik, -nz, -schaft, -ion, -tät, -ung, and ur: die Schweinerei, die Einheit, die Einsamkeit, die Fotografie, die Topik, die Konferenz, die Landschaft, die Position, die Universität, die Prüfung, die Natur, (mess, unity, loneliness, photography, topic, conference, landscape, position, university, test, nature)

Neuter nouns can be identified by the following characteristics:
1. Diminutive nouns that end in -chen or -lein: das Madchen, das Röslein (girl, little rose)
2. Nouns formed from an infinitive: das Einkommen, das Singen (income, singing). These nouns do not have a plural form.
3. Most nouns that end in -nis: das Bekenntnis, das Gedächtnis (confession, memory)
4. Many nouns with the prefix Ge-: das Gemälde, das Gelächter (painting, laughter)
5. Nouns that refer to metals: das Gold, das Silber (gold, silver)
6. Nouns that end in -ment: das Regiment, das Experiment (regiment, experiment)
7. Most nouns that form their plural by (umlaut) + er: das Haus (die Häuser), das Kind (die Kinder) (house, child).
8. Nouns that end in -tel, -tum, and -um: das Viertel, das Reichtum, das Gymnasium (quarter, wealth, prep school)



If you're interested in the book that I got that out of, it's German Grammar Drills by Ed Swick. You can check out the reviews on Amazon... some people didn't like it but said it was because it was a little too advanced for them. Maybe you want to order it from Stauffacher (if they don't have it already) so you can preview it and then you can order it online if you like it.
It has a few exercises at the end of the chapter, a review after a couple of chapters, and an answer key in the back so you can see if you're getting it right.

I hope it helps you as much as it's helping me.
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Re: There are DIE DER and DAS rules that make learning German easy.

Very useful post, I'll print it out.
 

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