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M'dear economisto, you must understand that nearly 75-80% of all Americans do not own passports. Foreign language education is a luxury to most people. Plop down a university in the middle of farmland in northern Indiana, and you get people who pronounce Notre Dame as "Note-er Dame".
That is interesting - I didn't know that! My dear, late grandmother used to pronounce Peugeot as Pewgot (bless her). Maybe it is French words that are the most difficult to pronounce. No, on second thoughts, as one who has been trying to get her tongue around German pronunciation, perhaps not.
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Sorry, didn't read the link . Please accept (not except) my most humble apologies.

Another point; I have to send out documents for review and people can't seem to accept that "If a subject were to withdraw...." is correct, and they change it to "If a subject was to withdraw..."

Maybe it's me and I'm incorrectly using the subjunctive (but I don't think so).
Were to withdraw from what?!

I now have weird visions of people as "subjects" in some big lab and you in a white coat. (think Survivors)

*backs away slowly*
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:31
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Were to withdraw from what?!

I now have weird visions of people as "subjects" in some big lab and you in a white coat. (think Survivors)

*backs away slowly*
Clinical studies - don't worry, it doesn't hurt... much...
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:33
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Re: Use of the apostrophe and other linguistic pitfalls

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And get an expensive one, you can literally keep it for centuries.
ARGGGG!

EDIT: To clarify - I'm sure you might be able to keep it for centuries but unless there are great advances in medical science, I doubt the purchaser of the mattress would be able to use it for centuries!
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From another post on mattresses:



ARGGGG!
I think I'm seeing double.
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:34
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That is interesting - I didn't know that! My dear, late grandmother used to pronounce Peugeot as Pewgot (bless her). Maybe it is French words that are the most difficult to pronounce. No, on second thoughts, as one who has been trying to get her tongue around German pronunciation, perhaps not.
Actually French pronunciation is harder than German (IMHO). German has pretty set rules on how letters are pronounced, French not as much, or at all. And let's not even mention English (notice my brazen use of "and" at the beginning of a sentence there? Ha, pedants!).
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Where was the first one, if this is another one?

ok, ok, I'm going home now.
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Where was the first one, if this is another one?

ok, ok, I'm going home now.
Bugger off you
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My husband has two different accents: "BBC Steve" and "Cockney Steve". When we lived in Chicago, he was "BBC Steve" and spoke like John Humphreys giving a news report. As soon as we landed at Heathrow, I SWEAR that he immediately changed and screamed out, "Awwwwrigh' geeza! Less gow dawn to da cruisa and git sum britnays!"

He's now somewhere in the middle, working with lots of Estuarial Brits that he knew in London.
That's funny because I have a Chicago accent that I use only in the Chicago area.
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That's funny because I have a Chicago accent that I use only in the Chicago area.
Me too, but I am sounding increasingly Midatlantic, much to my chagrin. However, no one understood Steve when he spoke in his "native tongue" in Chicago. I only pull out my Superfans accent with my Southside step-family. What can I say? I'm a linguistic chameleon!
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Sorry, didn't read the link . Please accept (not except) my most humble apologies.


Another point; I have to send out documents for review and people can't seem to accept that "If a subject were to withdraw...." is correct, and they change it to "If a subject was to withdraw..."

Maybe it's me and I'm incorrectly using the subjunctive (but I don't think so).
That's a tricky one, yet one says 'If I were you' and not 'If I was you'.
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:46
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Were to withdraw from what?!

I now have weird visions of people as "subjects" in some big lab and you in a white coat. (think Survivors)

*backs away slowly*
actually, the bit cut out was "... his member from the said orifice.."
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Fine, but the Yanks' pronunciation of Notre Dame (the University) really grates. Where did they get this from?
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M'dear economisto, you must understand that nearly 75-80% of all Americans do not own passports. Foreign language education is a luxury to most people. Plop down a university in the middle of farmland in northern Indiana, and you get people who pronounce Notre Dame as "Note-er Dame".
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That is interesting - I didn't know that! My dear, late grandmother used to pronounce Peugeot as Pewgot (bless her). Maybe it is French words that are the most difficult to pronounce. No, on second thoughts, as one who has been trying to get her tongue around German pronunciation, perhaps not.
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But how do you say 'paella'?
I'm with DB on this one.
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actually, the bit cut out was "... his member from the said orifice.."
Oh well that's ok then.
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Re: Use of the apostrophe and other linguistic pitfalls

The apostrophe, when used gramatically correctly, denotes ommision "I don't understand" as opposed to " I do not understand", or possession, "the girl's dresses, if there is just one girl, or the girls' dresses, if there are several girls.
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Sorry, didn't read the link . Please accept (not except) my most humble apologies.


Another point; I have to send out documents for review and people can't seem to accept that "If a subject were to withdraw...." is correct, and they change it to "If a subject was to withdraw..."

Maybe it's me and I'm incorrectly using the subjunctive (but I don't think so).
It's correct.

People get all wigged out when they read something they would not normally say (it is not too natural for me, either).

I think my favorite English "mistake" is the Cockney [I wro-u a le-a, wo-a, etc.], leaving out all the Ts.
My least fav one is the intonation that draws for long seconds and flips up at the end of every word with some US college age kids.
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It's correct.

People get all wigged out when they read something they would not normally say (it is not too natural for me, either).

I think my favorite English "mistake" is the Cockney [I wro-u a le-a, wo-a, etc.], leaving out all the Ts.
You forgot the omission of "H" and the random insertion of the letter "R" where there was none before.

Ex. "Awight, dawlin', I'm 'eaded to the 'otel barth."
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You forgot the omission of "H" and the random insertion of the letter "R" where there was none before.

Ex. "Awight, dawlin', I'm 'eaded to the 'otel barth."
Haha...Haven't noticed the R insertion, but mind you, my Cockney friends might have a speech impediment. We all have some...
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Re: Use of the apostrophe and other linguistic pitfalls

Anybody got an example of a triple negative?
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Anybody got an example of a triple negative?
you mean a positive?
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