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lemondrizzle 29.04.2010 15:26

A good tandem language relationship?
 
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I saw the University of Lausanne's tandem language programme mentioned on EF and I signed up - planning to swap my native English for someone's native French.

Just wondered if anyone on EF has had a successful tandem language partnership with anyone? Either with someone they met on EF, or elsewhere? Did you manage to learn German/French/ Italian/whatever in this way?
Anyone have any tips for a successful tandem relationship?
What worked well for you?
What didn't?

I have contacted several of the students on the UNIL site, offering my English for their French. But have only had one reply. Most of the profiles seem to suggest students keen on learning a number of launguages (not just English), and they seem to have fabulous extreme sport-type hobbies/love clubbing/etc. Could be why they haven't bothered to reply!!! Me - boring old SAHM, them - young, wild and exciting!!! :D

With the one reply I have had, we have decided to start tomorrow, so I would be grateful for any tips!

29.04.2010 16:12

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
To learn a language proper like, you need to understand the grammar.

These tandem learning ideas are becoming popular, but in my opinion only as an exercise to further your knowledge of the country and improve your (Now my memory has failed! I have gone blank: the number of words you know). People need to have a good basic command of the language, otherwise they are a waste of time and might unwitingly introduce errors.

Another problem is that if your French is weak, the other student will learn more than you do, and that way get more free "Lessons" while you stumble along trying to understand the difference between Gare and Guerre!

Brotherhood of Justice 29.04.2010 16:15

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
vocabulary :msnnerd:

karin_z 29.04.2010 16:32

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
I think people choose tandem with the person of similar profile.
Students will search for other students, hikers will search for someone who can discuss it with them either.
It means that when you meet this person - you will have actually a topic to talk about - and not just 'where are you from' and 'what are you doing here'.

cheers,
karin

HashBrown 29.04.2010 16:37

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
I don't recall understanding English grammar as a baby when I learned to speak English.

Faltrad 29.04.2010 20:20

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HashBrown (Post 793785)
I don't recall understanding English grammar as a baby when I learned to speak English.

Mother tongue and foreign language aquisition depending on age of the learner can not be compared.
One may however be heavily auditive and learn a lot through auditive stimulation of different kind. It is technically not impossible that someone would even learn German declention that way, but if you are such a person, you would be the first I know of. But I don't know that much, so good luck learning the way you like.

helge 29.04.2010 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HashBrown (Post 793785)
I don't recall understanding English grammar as a baby when I learned to speak English.


...and I don't know much grammar, but I do speak a few languages. Involving alcohol, and sinking to in infant's intellectual level that way, always seems to have helped me. :rolleyes:

Honestly, learning a language, or anything else for that matter, is a very individual thing. Anyway, socializing with someone just because of the language seems like buying a lottery ticket, you should have something to talk about as well. Who knows, maybe there is a FF like EF, where you can meet French speakers. ;)

But if you want to learn French, why not start dating a French speakers, the best, (cheapest, not so sure) and most efficient kind of "tandem language relationship". :rolleyes:

29.04.2010 20:51

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
I have worked with the German language since 1977, almost never English, and I regret not learning the German grammar. e.g. should I write gelbe Blümen, gelbes Blümen oder gelber Blümen?

If you don't learn the grammar you will never be fluent! My French is grammatically more correct than my German because I learnt it at school.

So, don't mess around learning "encore deux bière s'il tu plaît" but get down to the basics and you might learn that "Voulez vous coucher avec moi" isn't such a good phrase .... because you should have used the tu form (Get it? No you wouldn't ....)

lemondrizzle 29.04.2010 21:04

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ittigen (Post 793725)
.......Another problem is that if your French is weak, the other student will learn more than you do, and that way get more free "Lessons" while you stumble along trying to understand the difference between Gare and Guerre!

Yes. I think this could be a potential problem.
I am thinking of getting a standard 'learn French' textbook, and getting my tandem to go through the book with me, so that my learning is not just based on listening to the tandem speak. Maybe for a short part of the tandem learning hour. Not sure though...

Anyone recommend a good basic 'learn French' book to work through?? Thanks.

lemondrizzle 29.04.2010 21:06

Re: A good tandem language relationship?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ittigen (Post 794182)
........So, don't mess around learning "encore deux bière s'il tu plaît" but get down to the basics and you might learn that "Voulez vous coucher avec moi" isn't such a good phrase .... because you should have used the tu form (Get it? No you wouldn't ....)

:eek:
I always thought 'Voulez vous' was an ABBA song!:msncrazy:


*Edit* Just remembered the Lady Marmalade song!!!!


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