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Old 10.08.2010, 19:13
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Documents needed for birth certificate [translation needed]

http://www.ejpd.admin.ch/content/dam...ommentar-d.pdf


Apparently this is the document that explains the requirements of the Canton of Zug for parents of a newborn to provide their birth certificates which are no more than six months old to be able to register their newborn.

I have read through and Google translated it but cannot find any mention of specific requirements.

Can anyone help, please?
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Re: Documents needed for birth certificate [translation needed]

We were given a welcome pack by the Zug hospital that said what you needed to bring on delivery day. Swiss needed their passports and family book, foreigners needed their passports, and foreign marriage and birth certificates issued in the last 6 months. Many countries do an international version of documents. Our first one for my husband was handwritten and couldn't be read to be translated. Many countries have websites where you can order the documents from.

Second baby they accepted our original documents because they already had them on file from the last baby. Luckily I called them and checked and double checked and didn't re-request the documents.

EDIT: I have since read though the document (my Opera had a problem opening the pdf) and I couldn't see the rule stated. It does say that for births there are different rules for foreigners and that the rules from 2004 still apply.

My son was born on 2006 and they had the same rules and my boss' kid was born in 2000 - still the same rules.

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Re: Documents needed for birth certificate [translation needed]

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http://www.ejpd.admin.ch/content/dam...ommentar-d.pdf


Apparently this is the document that explains the requirements of the Canton of Zug for parents of a newborn to provide their birth certificates which are no more than six months old to be able to register their newborn.

I have read through and Google translated it but cannot find any mention of specific requirements.

Can anyone help, please?
This document is not relevant to you, it explains that the Cantons need to avoid registering forced marriages and phantom births.

The Swiss authority requires all birth parents to identify themselves, and all signatures to be certified. So you need valid birth certificates, passports, and to avoid adoption proceedings later, a marriage certificate.
The Canton Zug Standesamt , Stadthaus am Kolinplatz, 6301 Zug E-Mail zivilstandsamt@zug.zg.ch

It is a good idea to apply to your Gemeinde for a Swiss Familie Büchlein: all the family documents will be inspected and details entered in the little book. This is then accepted by Doctors, Schools, Hospitals, Courts etc.

Legally a birth or marriage certificate with a Seal is always valid. More common is a birth certificate with a Stamp and these are valid for only 6 months.

Your Embassy will know which documents the Swiss require and what to do to get them.

And make sure you order an International Birth Certificate for your baby (Internationale Geburtsurkunde), this will save you lots of translations later!

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Re: Documents needed for birth certificate [translation needed]

One of the problems that we have is that we cannot raise a birth certificate for my wife without substantial difficulties and I am trying to avoid the need to go back to the country of origin or to hire a lawyer to obtain the copy.

I also perhaps stubbornly also feel that passports and permits are proof of identity and nationality. I also feel that it is unjust that the rules for foreigners are so different and that other friends who have got married to Swiss men never had to show their birth certificate to either get their permits or to be issued a Swiss family book and consequently don't need to do so for the birth of their children.

In this case I find the authorities are acting discriminatory and that delaying the birth certificate is violation of their own laws and that of the UN which state that the child's interests are paramount in the whole process.

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Old 11.08.2010, 10:18
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One of the problems that we have is that we cannot raise a birth certificate for my wife without substantial difficulties and I am trying to avoid the need to go back to the country of origin or to hire a lawyer to obtain the copy.

I also perhaps stubbornly also feel that passports and permits are proof of identity and nationality. I also feel that it is unjust that the rules for foreigners are so different and that other friends who have got married to Swiss men never had to show their birth certificate to either get their permits or to be issued a Swiss family book and consequently don't need to do so for the birth of their children. [this is incorrect]

In this case I find the authorities are acting discriminatory and that delaying the birth certificate is violation of their own laws and that of the UN which state that the child's interests are paramount in the whole process.

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You are not being singled out for special treatment. We all have to do this. You should start straight away and order the missing documents at your Embassy. These checks are put in place to protect innocent people from exploitation and forced marriages. The child's interests are indeed uppermost, they want to make sure he or she gets the correct mother and father, and not an uncle and aunt who might then enslave her!

We live in a wicked world, and Switzerland and the EU do not want to encourage and condone unacceptable criminal behaviour! Passports and permits are based on Birth certificates, not the other way round.

So stop being stubborn, keep to their rules, and you will get the birth certificate quicker.
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I also feel that it is unjust that the rules for foreigners are so different and that other friends who have got married to Swiss men never had to show their birth certificate to either get their permits or to be issued a Swiss family book and consequently don't need to do so for the birth of their children.
Ittigen - This is actually correct and I can provide 3 examples of it.

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These checks are put in place to protect innocent people from exploitation and forced marriages.
The PDF that was given to me was from the register of Baar!!

I'm not that showing a birth certificate not more than 6 months old over a passport is proof of an unforced marriage. Irrespective how can the Swiss authorities accept a visa application from a married couple if this is what they are really seeking to prove without these very same checks... Your argument does not stack up and is flawed, insofar that the only way to prove that I am actually the father of the child is not through documentation but through DNA testing.
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