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Old 18.11.2010, 14:32
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OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

So, after a previous thread, I've decided to make a bit of an effort to learn the local language. In any case, I think it'd be cool. I know it's been discussed before on the forum, but I have some specific parameters:

1. I cannot go to classes due to time constraints. It's not that I don't have the time per se, just that I cannot commit to regular lesson. I'd like an audio/book class, preferably something reasonably priced.

2. I emphatically want to learn Swiss German, not High German. I have no interest in Germany, will never live there and I live in Switzerland where High German is not the lingua franca. So Swiss German it is.

3. I learn logically, so I'd like a learning course where there is explanation of basic grammatical structures rather than a method which is just listening to the language being spoken.

Thanks!
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

I'd like to congratulate you on this mammothly courageous decision

http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm

http://www.eldrid.ch/advanced.htm

Here's a couple of starters. Read them through, see if any of it makes sense at all (preferably with a good glass of whatever tickles your fancy nearby). If yes, then you're well on the way, if no, pour yourself another one and forget the whole thing
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Old 18.11.2010, 14:52
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I'd like to congratulate you on this mammothly courageous decision

http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm

http://www.eldrid.ch/advanced.htm

Here's a couple of starters. Read them through, see if any of it makes sense at all (preferably with a good glass of whatever tickles your fancy nearby). If yes, then you're well on the way, if no, pour yourself another one and forget the whole thing
Thanks very much! One question:

"all ch's should be pronounced like in German ach." - I don't speak German, so how should the "Ch" be pronounced?

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Old 18.11.2010, 14:55
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

Swiss German is rather a phonetic language, it's actually not even a language itself - more a dialect. The best is really to listen to your neighbor, staff in the shops, friends etc.

Good Luck


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Thanks very much! One question:

"all ch's should be pronounced like in German ach." - I don't speak German, so how should the "Ch" be pronounced?

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As in Scottish "loch".


I've got one of those mythical (al least, for a "non-written" language) Swiss-German grammar books for which you seek.
I'll dig 'em out and get back to you over the next couple of days
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

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So, after a previous thread, I've decided to make a bit of an effort to learn the local language. In any case, I think it'd be cool. I know it's been discussed before on the forum, but I have some specific parameters:

1. I cannot go to classes due to time constraints. It's not that I don't have the time per se, just that I cannot commit to regular lesson. I'd like an audio/book class, preferably something reasonably priced.

2. I emphatically want to learn Swiss German, not High German. I have no interest in Germany, will never live there and I live in Switzerland where High German is not the lingua franca. So Swiss German it is.

3. I learn logically, so I'd like a learning course where there is explanation of basic grammatical structures rather than a method which is just listening to the language being spoken.

Thanks!
As a start I would suggest getting a copy of this book! The Swiss German survival guide.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hoi-Swiss-Ge.../dp/3905252139
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

Im learning via the diffusion method. So far I can order a beer and say 'genau' a lot
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Old 18.11.2010, 14:57
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As in Scottish "loch"
for all of them? How would you pronounce Chuchi like the restaurant Swiss Chuchi?
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for all of them? How would you pronounce Chuchi like the restaurant Swiss Chuchi?
Pronounce it like the English "h"....i.e. you read "chuchi" but pronounce it "huhee".
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for all of them? How would you pronounce Chuchi like the restaurant Swiss Chuchi?
Yup - unless its a part of "sch" (e.g. "it is" -> "es isch" , pronounce as "ess ish")


So pronounce Chuchi as "ch-oo ch-ee "
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

Do you speak any spanish? Just pronounce it the way spanish speakers pronounce their 'j' (e.g. juan, jornada). Same thing.

Ch-oo-ch-ee (Chuchi)
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Pronounce it like the English "h"....i.e. you read "chuchi" but pronounce it "huhee".
what? when you're toothless maybe ... yeah .. sure ...
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what? when you're toothless maybe ... yeah .. sure ...
Way to encourage somebody...
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.



This is the englishforum.ch

Not the englishforum.org, or the learngermanforum.de, or the learnswissgermanforum.ch
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Pronounce it like the English "h"....i.e. you read "chuchi" but pronounce it "huhee".
Err, no. That would be, as they say in English, rong.
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for all of them? How would you pronounce Chuchi like the restaurant Swiss Chuchi?

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Old 18.11.2010, 15:14
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

Thanks guys - I speak OK Arabic and Spanish so I'm versed in the arts of phlegm-play-pronunciation.
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This is the englishforum.ch

Not the englishforum.org, or the learngermanforum.de, or the learnswissgermanforum.ch
Yes, and this particular bit is the Language Corner

You know the one, surely? "Language corner: Questions and answers for learners of German, French and Italian, translation help"

That one. So,

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Thanks guys - I speak OK Arabic and Spanish so I'm versed in the arts of phlegm-play-pronunciation.
alllllriiight then.....The Ch in chuchi is pronounced the same way as you'd say "$hite" in Arabic.
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Re: OK....I want to learn (a bit of) Swiss German.

This is a really good book, but it is of course written in German as well.

http://www.spraach.ch/zuerich/mitgli...rstaa-Rede.php

Ultimately you will never get away with just learning 'Mundart', unless you are a farmer on a remote hillside in Uri.
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