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leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months? [Humanitarian Entrant B permit]

Hi Everybody.

I am new for Swiss forum and Lie very mach the info’s that are provided here, and this is why I am posting .my first post, I need some Help (Info) about leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months. have been living in Swiss for some time, got perms B humanitarian and I am from Non E.u country, been working but now I am In unemployment benefit. And something cam up from back home, that absolutely should go back and take care.
my questions are.:- could I stop my unemployment benefit temporarily when i leave and continue when i get back?
-my Permis B is renewable every year and it will expire by Feb. 2011. so if i get to leave within two or three months a if it will be expired when I am out of Swiss will i be able to renew it by the representative office(Embassy)of swiss ?
-and can I Be able to change health Insurance before i leave? Because what i have right now is very expensive to continue paying for wheal I am absent or 6 months. I politely and Hartley thank everyone In advance for you time and respond for my Questions.
Hope to get your response A:S:A:P
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Old 16.06.2011, 17:29
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

Yeah, so it's pronounced Switzerland. Maybe go back and edit your post?
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

And profile, too, please, Canton Vaud. Thanks.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

and your permit's already expired.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

Three posts in reply to the OP and not one grain of help!

I am sorry, dag, but I am not in a position to help you with your queries, but I hope that there is somebody on the Forum who is.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

same issue with sort of a response ....

http://www.glocals.com/forums/geneva...eva/116167.htm
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Old 16.06.2011, 19:46
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Thanks Nicolaschulz, I appreciate it.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

Can you at list be a bit polite? I ask for help, not an opinion or correction on my post. But Thanks any way.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

I understand that you would like help but honestly, your post is quite difficult to sort out. Sorry I cannot help with the permit or the unemployment questions. A couple of minor points to other questions though.

Health Insurance - get in touch with the people you are insured with. I am pretty certain that you can just pay a nominal fee to keep the 'policy' ticking over and then inform them when you return when you will pay the normal premium again.

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my Permis B is renewable every year and it will expire by Feb. 2011

but Febuary 2011 has already past. Have you got the year wrong or is the tense wrong?

Maybe someone else can help, but don't be too hard on those who are not very polite. You've been here quite a while and should perhaps know the correct official place to ask these questions.

Good luck anyway.
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Old 16.06.2011, 20:27
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

Thanks Very mach Anthony1406.the link is well related and helpful.
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

The problem, Dag - is that nobody really understand your post.

You post today - June 2011, about an expired B-Permit - being on unemployment, from a non-EU country - that sounds already difficult enough.

Normally to need such permit, you have to be in the country, so renewal from abroad is not normally possible. A B permit is also usually tied to one's job - but I am not aware of special Humanitarian permits.

So for what I understand, right now you are illegally in the country, and upon leaving you will have to do immigration again. As such, you can immediately end your health insurance record, as it is not required.

Oh, and Voude is not a canton.
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Re: leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months?

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If you are on an annual B ( no refugee but humanitarian entrant converting from an F permit to a B for reasons of marriage / integration ), you MUST seek prior permission from your Eihnwohnerkontrolle ( Gemeinde ) AND your Sozialarbeiter/in. Recognized refugees, who are granted a better annual B permit, also cannot return home. This is called the cessation clause.

You did not state which travel document you intend to travel with - is it the light blue Humanitarian Travel Document or your country's national passport ?

Your B permit can be renewed three months before it expires, no earlier i.e. the earliest is around November 2011 if it expires in Feb 2012.

Reasons: Subsidiary protection is granted to you and by extension it renders your permit as invalid once you return to your home country ( sending country ).

Sozialhilfe: Again, you need permission to be away from your gemeinde in order to be given the SKOS level of financial aid and other benefits. Failure to do so of informing your Sozialamt of any changes in your situation is a breach of the obligations to signed for.

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Hi Everybody.

I am new for Swiss forum and Lie very mach the info’s that are provided here, and this is why I am posting .my first post, I need some Help (Info) about leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months. have been living in Swiss for some time, got perms B humanitarian and I am from Non E.u country, been working but now I am In unemployment benefit. And something cam up from back home, that absolutely should go back and take care.
my questions are.:- could I stop my unemployment benefit temporarily when i leave and continue when i get back?
-my Permis B is renewable every year and it will expire by Feb. 2011. so if i get to leave within two or three months a if it will be expired when I am out of Swiss will i be able to renew it by the representative office(Embassy)of swiss ?
-and can I Be able to change health Insurance before i leave? Because what i have right now is very expensive to continue paying for wheal I am absent or 6 months. I politely and Hartley thank everyone In advance for you time and respond for my Questions.
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Old 16.06.2011, 20:52
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Re: leaving Swiss for 5 or 6 months?

Thanks Longbyt.
I am relieved to see some +ve(polite) replays from people like you, I think you are right, and I got the year wrong it’s for 2012 and thanks very much on the info about the Health Insurance. Though I have been registered on the forum since 2008, have never used it or follow it for a very long time, so could you please suggest correct official place to ask these questions? Thanks again.
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Re: leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months? [Humanitarian Entrant B permit]

Great that helped. Congratulations as your English has really improved since 1st post.
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Re: leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months? [Humanitarian Entrant B permit]

In Romandie, I think it is called the OCP / Office Cantonal de la population / Population or Residents Registry ( German speaking regions call it Gemeinde / Stadt Verwaltung or Einwohnerkontrolle ).

Social Worker at the Sozialamt - can someone please help out with the Romandie equivalents ?

I suppose if the OP ( dag ) had given his town or city name as opposed to the Canton name ( VD ), it would be easier to give precise directions.
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Re: leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months? [Humanitarian Entrant B permit]

It is called Office cantonal de la population. The Social worker I do not know, but peope at the Office de la population will direct OP the right way.
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Re: leaving Switzerland for 5 or 6 months? [Humanitarian Entrant B permit]

The OCP for Vaud:

http://www.vd.ch/fr/autorites/depart...nt/population/ in FR
( crude EN here )

Service de la population
DIRECTION
Av. de Beaulieu 19
CH - 1014 Lausanne
Tél. : +41 (0) 21 316 49 49
Fax : +41 (0) 21 316 46 45
info.population(at)vd.ch

Afficher la carteService de la population



Division ETRANGERS
Av. de Beaulieu 19
CH - 1014 Lausanne
Tél. : +41 (0) 21 316 46 46
Fax : +41 (0) 21 316 46 45
info.etrangers(at)vd.ch

There are more addresses but I believe each Commune has its own OCP equivalent, that is the OCP of YOUR town. Your OCP will advise you on exiting CH, entering your home country IF allowed ( as otherwise it will breach Switzerland's international obligations and treaties ) and return to CH as this touches on Federal Law mainly.

Within your OCP, you will have your "mentor' ( Officier de protection sociale / Officier de la sécurité sociale ) from the Social Security office ( Bureau de la Sécurité sociale ) who will advise you on financial matters IF you will still be paid / given the current benefits. This is Cantonal Law entitlements mainly.

Although some have done it ie return to their country without prior authorisation, and crossing the border unlawfully, many others have been caught on arrival either in the sending country or returning to CH.

The light blue Travel Document as issued by the EJPD, Berne to F and humanitarian B permit holders, is valid for a single journey, does not have stripes and will be seized upon your lawful return to CH at the airport / border control. This is a privilege, not a right, as is re-entry to CH.

The Conventional Refugees always travel on the dark blue ( dark blue for CH issued documents ) Travel Document, always with two stripes, valid as an international passport and retained by the 1951 Convention Refugee until expiry as their right. Re-entry without prior authorisation is a right with this document.

Canadian Convention Refugee Travel Document:



I hope this will assist you in your quest and trust you will have faith in this forum of ours.
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