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Old 23.10.2011, 18:41
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

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The airline folks and TSA check, but do you go through an actual passport control officer? They're different entities. I've never noticed this as my husband is an EU passport holder and he hasn't been singled out for an extra passport check. Perhaps this is something new in the last year?
Not singled out, just checked. As I said to the OP: They'd (the Swiss) have to look at the passports (check them) in order to single out foreigners, that does not make sense. They simply check all passports on non Schengen flights.

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The guy in Switzerland appeared to be a real border guard rather than just a security drone making cursory checks.
That does not really make a difference, as soon as the passport is inserted in one of em little machines, there is much more checking going on than any human being could ever do. You can be sure that if you were ever on a no fly list, the reaction would be just the same.


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I'm not entirely sure, actually, but I do think they collect data from flights so that when they swipe your passport, they can see when you've entered and left. It's not entirely accurate though as the numbers of illegals in the US is fairly high in spite of all the border controls.
As I said, as soon as the passport is swiped, your data is in the system (which will also be double checked against the flight data and vice-versa).

Most of the illegals will arrive either on a tourist visa or cross the border on the ground.
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Old 23.10.2011, 18:44
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the system said that we are required to have return tickets (to go back to the U.S.), per the rules of Switzerland
When did they start that?

I came here on a one way ticket (actually, I had a one-way to Brussels, and rented a car and drove here).

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Old 23.10.2011, 18:46
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They simply check all passports on non Schengen flights.
Here, they check ALL passports, even when flying within CH!

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Old 23.10.2011, 20:02
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When did they start that?

I came here on a one way ticket (actually, I had a one-way to Brussels, and rented a car and drove here).

Tom
I came to Zurich in May of this year on a one way ticket and was not required to have a return ticket to the US.
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Old 24.10.2011, 18:07
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When did they start that?

I came here on a one way ticket (actually, I had a one-way to Brussels, and rented a car and drove here).

Tom
I'm not sure Switzerland does [have a requirement for U.S. citizens to have a return ticket]. But the airline's check-in system seems to think it is a requirement. (We've never flown with this carrier before - but our normal carrier got bought out by them. I think there's some merging pains.) My husband was a bit frustrated. Fortunately on-line check-in is optional.
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Old 24.10.2011, 18:15
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Here, they check ALL passports, even when flying within CH!

Tom
When I flew to Madrid, no one looked at my passport (though I did scan it at the auto-ticket machine to get my boarding pass). But when I flew to the US, I went through passport control (someone looking at my passport and permit and me) before going onto Terminal E.
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When I flew to Madrid, no one looked at my passport (though I did scan it at the auto-ticket machine to get my boarding pass). But when I flew to the US, I went through passport control (someone looking at my passport and permit and me) before going onto Terminal E.
I have flown Zurich - Paris many times and not had any ID checked at all (passport or otherwise). Same for a few other locations within Schengen.
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Old 25.10.2011, 16:49
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

They always check mine and want to see my B permit as well.
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I just wanted to know if any American living or working (or both) has any relevant knowledge on this: Does Switzerland only check your passport coming in or do they check it coming out as well? I've heard some say they don't check natives' passports or information, only with the foreigners they do, and I think it's all silly...
When flying to non-Schengen countries (I've only flown to the UK, but the same passport check covers all the short haul non-Schengen flights), there is a passport check for all departing passengers. I don't recall having to show it in an immigration context for intra-Schengen flights, though (but I've shown it as a photo-ID-for-flying purposes). I've never been asked to show my passport on any of my land border crossings, and I've never been asked to show my permit on any of the times I've crossed the border (but then maybe I don't look dodgy enough).
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Old 25.10.2011, 18:15
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I have had my passport checked at the border in a car before also, but they asked for everyone's ID, it's not like they said "hmm, that gal in the back seat doesn't look very Swiss..." These days I carry my permit with me rather than passport, if you don't have a permit, you really should "always" have your passport with you.
It's fairly common for me to be the only one asked for my passport when in a car with white people.
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

Before Switzerland joined Schengen, I had a few instances when I would arrive in and leave Zurich airport, border control would just look at the cover of my US passport for a few seconds and hand it back to me without even opening it or scanning it.

These days though, I just show up with my US passport and C Permit in hand. A couple of times, they would just have a quick look at the C Permit and hand it back without evening opening the passport.
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

They check you coming in and out if you are travelling to or from the US or outside of the Schengen. If you are a US citizen and travelling to Spain for example then no checking of any passport.
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

For Americans - Does anyone know if other documents are necessary at the airport when leaving switzerland permanently (I have a B permit that I will give up to the Geneva canton)?

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Old 07.12.2011, 13:33
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Re: For Americans: Does Switzerland check your passport upon leaving?

Like jbray, they ask for my passport (US) and my C permit. Every time.

For a long time I thought it was a discrimination thing because I was committing the crime of Flying While Muslim. So I asked why they needed to see my Swiss permit if I was *leaving* the country, and the border dude said that he asks because of the controls they do on their computers- not having the permit creates extra work because of supplemental information/questions that need to be asked and would have to be entered manually if the permit data isn't there.

I thought he was bullsh*tting me but the next time my permit was way down in my purse and couldn't get to it, so he started with the questions - where do you live, what do you do.. and then I magically found my permit and the border dude shut up.
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Old 07.12.2011, 14:06
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It's fairly common for me to be the only one asked for my passport when in a car with white people.
Ouuuuch.

I know this thread is a few months old, but regarding the kids -- mine have the same last name and they have both been asked in the U.S. "Who's this?" with the TSA guy pointing jokingly at me. Of course security acts like it's a joke, but they are serious about the kid's reaction.

We lived on the Canadian border and it's well known there that if one parent (especially if it's dad) travels alone with a child, he/she should have a letter from the other parent. Sure, it would be easy to forge, but it's still recommended. There is no doubt a significant problem with one parent bringing a child into another country and not returning to the other parent, causing international custody nightmares.
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Old 07.12.2011, 14:11
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I just wanted to know if any American living or working (or both) has any relevant knowledge on this: Does Switzerland only check your passport coming in or do they check it coming out as well? I've heard some say they don't check natives' passports or information, only with the foreigners they do, and I think it's all silly...
Yes, they check. But show them your residence permit and it's kein problem.

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Here, they check ALL passports, even when flying within CH!

Tom
Actually, if you're not leaving Schengen you don't need a passport, but they will say to show your passport. If you show them your permit or national ID it works just as well. They just need to verify that you are the person to whom the tickeet was issued
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Old 07.12.2011, 15:07
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Yes, they check. But show them your residence permit and it's kein problem.



Actually, if you're not leaving Schengen you don't need a passport, but they will say to show your passport. If you show them your permit or national ID it works just as well. They just need to verify that you are the person to whom the tickeet was issued
By passport, I also meant ID (passports aren't needed even for non-Schengen countries within Europe).

I only ever use a passport for going to the US/Canada.

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