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14.10.2013, 10:26
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In order to get all the monies out of my swiss pension I am told i need to complete a form from the Swiss LOB Guarantee Fund.
Where or not i get this money (3 to 4 months im told it takes ) depends on whether i have the correct compulsory pension insurance requirements in the Uk
Has anyone else experienced this process and do you know what the requirements are.
Like to know so i can adapt my situation to fit the bill !!
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14.10.2013, 12:11
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14.10.2013, 16:05
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | In order to get all the monies out of my swiss pension I am told i need to complete a form from the Swiss LOB Guarantee Fund. Where or not i get this money (3 to 4 months im told it takes ) depends on whether i have the correct compulsory pension insurance requirements in the Uk Has anyone else experienced this process and do you know what the requirements are. Like to know so i can adapt my situation to fit the bill !! Thx in advance | | | | | still not finding the definative answer as to what the criterea is to qualify to get all you money out of your swiss pension
Anyone help pls ?
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14.10.2013, 16:08
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | still not finding the definative answer as to what the criterea is to qualify to get all you money out of your swiss pension
Anyone help pls ? | | | | | How old are you & where are you going to would be needed before anyone can tell you more.
This has been discussed in the last week & most months over the last few years so I am surprised you have not got a definitive answer to your question.
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14.10.2013, 16:11
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14.10.2013, 16:16
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | uk and 48y | | | | | You can't take you pension until retirement age.
You could transfer to a UK pension scheme & take 25% cash with the rest as pension. A Swiss pension can be taken from 60 as 100% cash, or could be used to buy a main residence.
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14.10.2013, 16:21
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thx for response .
my friend recently came back to UK and filled in a form from Swiss LOB guarentee fund amd after 3months got all his pension back in cash via HRMC
He also said : it's all to do with having the correct compulsory pension insurance requirements in the UK. Its an understanding of what those requirements are that im after.
Thx so far though | 
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | thx for response .
my friend recently came back to UK and filled in a form from Swiss LOB guarentee fund amd after 3months got all his pension back in cash via HRMC
He also said : it's all to do with having the correct compulsory pension insurance requirements in the UK. Its an understanding of what those requirements are that im after.
Thx so far though | | | | | If you google Swiss LOB guarantee fund you can read all about it
The key point being "If you are not subject to a compulsory pension insurance requirement in the United King- dom, your benefit scheme may pay out your vested benefits in cash, provided that all the re- quirements for cash payment are satisfied. " What nationally is your friend?
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14.10.2013, 16:40
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14.10.2013, 18:07
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14.10.2013, 20:00
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | English | | | | | I doubt it's applicable to you, refer to the first answer I gave you | 
14.10.2013, 22:22
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | If you google Swiss LOB guarantee fund you can read all about it | | | | | Well, not exactly. You can read a high level process description. What the OP wants to know and what I would like to know is what constitutes being "subject to a compulsory pension insurance requirement". Does this relate to pillar 1 or 2 ? As we are talking about release of pillar 2 assets, maybe it is whether you are subject to compulsory pillar 2 (equivalent) in UK ? Well, company pensions (=BVG = pillar 2) are currently not mandated in the UK. So does it relate to AHV equivalent (NI) - if so, are there categories of employment, non-employment etc that are not subject to this ? It would be nice to get some clarity.
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14.10.2013, 22:24
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | my friend ... got all his pension back in cash via HRMC | | | | | Maybe your friend could explain the details to you, then you could educate the rest of us... | 
15.10.2013, 08:25
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | what constitutes being "subject to a compulsory pension insurance requirement". Does this relate to pillar 1 or 2 ? | | | | | To partially answer my own question, from another page on the LOB website I found "the person concerned must have compulsory state insurance for retirement, disability and survivors' benefits in the new country"
So this seems a strange mix of Pillar 2 (BVG) assets being blocked by being subject to mandatory Pillar 1 (equiv. AVH/IV). Under what circumstances you would not be required to be insured for Pillar 1 I don't know.
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If you are retired or self employed | Quote: | |  | | | To partially answer my own question, from another page on the LOB website I found "the person concerned must have compulsory state insurance for retirement, disability and survivors' benefits in the new country"
So this seems a strange mix of Pillar 2 (BVG) assets being blocked by being subject to mandatory Pillar 1 (equiv. AVH/IV). Under what circumstances you would not be required to be insured for Pillar 1 I don't know. | | | | | | 
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | If you are retired or self employed | | | | | Self employed have to pay NI contributions in the UK, so looks like retired people only. Possibly non Doms.
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06.11.2013, 11:52
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Gosh I'm now scared to ask my question re my pension................ | 
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Search for the Swiss LOB guarantee fund, it has all the information you need!
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12.02.2014, 15:35
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There's too much information about this. I just want my money  Will I get something out of there calling to the bank in der Schweiz?
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| | Re: Cashing in Swiss Pension | Quote: | |  | | | There's too much information about this. I just want my money Will I get something out of there calling to the bank in der Schweiz? | | | | | If your head is overloaded donate the few pennies to the SVP. | This user would like to thank Aubrey for this useful post: | |
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