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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

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I got a fourth reasonable quote that didn't seem like a scam from Reloswiss. In their words, for 5 cubic meters (approx. 176 cubic feet):

"CHF 3.485,00 flat

This includes the professional packing of your goods in your house (fragile, furniture etc.) incl. all cartons and other materials (on collection’s day only), Swiss export formalities, transport to Rotterdam, port handling and ocean freight, normal customs clearance, delivery to your new residence in Durham, unloading, placing of items into designated rooms, unpacking of furniture, simple reassembly and same day removal of used material.

Excluded are any duties and taxes, storage, physical customs exam or x-ray, long hand carry or shuttle due to difficult access at origin or destination, higher than 2end floor without lift, heavy items like piano, safe etc.

Fully comprehensive insurance cover is available for a premium of 2,2% of the declared valuation. Deductible is CHF 500,00."
If you care about your stuff, please don't use this company. We did and a lot of our stuff arrived damage. The real frustration though is that this company is impossible to work with and won't do anything to help us via the insurers. I'd highly recommend using a UK removals company (very much regret that I didn't) because the customer service of a Swiss company is, well, Swiss. Unfortunately I learned the hard way that one must consider the worst case scenario when one entrusts all one's personal belongings to a removals firm.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Update: we decided to send boxes through the post (Swiss post to Canada Post). The boxes arrived promptly, with nothing stolen, but they were beat to sh!t. I mean, seriously destroyed. Luckily we didn't send much breakable stuff but the breakable stuff was mostly busted. One was water-damaged. I think much less of postal workers after this.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Postal service is good for domestic shipping and maybe that applies to many countries.
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Update: we decided to send boxes through the post (Swiss post to Canada Post). The boxes arrived promptly, with nothing stolen, but they were beat to sh!t. I mean, seriously destroyed. Luckily we didn't send much breakable stuff but the breakable stuff was mostly busted. One was water-damaged. I think much less of postal workers after this.
What kind of boxes did you use? Boxes for domestic shipments are designed just for that.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

For anyone watching this thread, the strongest boxes I found during my move were at LIPO. They were only medium-sized, though. I managed to score one XXL sized box from http://www.selfbox.ch/en/ that was also of high quality.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Hello everyone!
I need info on the lowest cost to move my things from at gallen
To new york city, and if possible where it can be stired until i have
An apartment there!
I will be leaving end of summer so my son can start 6 th grade
In NYC.
Willing to share a container if anyone us going that way!
Mostly boxes and only one single bed( my sons) and one dresser.
Thanks so much fir any info.
I dont have a lot of money, will be using part of my retirement to move
Back (been here 14 yrs)
Thanks for your help, this is always a useful resource this forum!
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

This thread is SUPER HELPFUL!

We are using IcelandAir for our trip home, which is great because they allow:

2 Checked Bags per person (Economy Class)
1 Carry-on per person
1 Personal Item/Backpack/Tote

and for $100 we can bring a bicycle as well.

Extra checked bags are $133. And then I found these online, which is the dimensions, packed full, for a checked bag: http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-Canvas-...cm_rdp_product for $20 each.

We aren't taking any furniture or electronics, so it might work! The only thing we can't pack is our desktop computer. It's 4 inches too big, and while we have the original packaging, I can't imagine putting it into the luggage hold. The rest of it will find a new home, I hope.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Thank you to everyone for posting such useful information. We are in the midst of planning a move to Canada and this is all helpful! I'll come back to add anything useful that I find.

Great tip about IcelandAir, InThalwil!
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Hi,

I found this thread very useful. Thank you for the tips on the boxes too.

Did anyone move to California from Switzerland recently and can post their experience?

Thanks,
Lausanne Guy
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

This is useful stuff. Definitely helps me plan my move in a month.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Very happy to find this feed. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share their advice/experiences!

I was wondering if anyone also has some tips on sending a car from Switzerland to the US (or California specifically). I am wondering costs, time, can you pack your car full of moving items/boxes?

I'll also be moving some household items, so I'll share my quotes once I have more clarity on my offers.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Any updates you'd like to add here on this thread. This has been very helpful for planning our shipment back to the states from Basel. Thank you everyone.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

I dont recommend Pearson from the UK. Total disaster. Quoted in CHF sent first bill in pounds. Numerous mistakes along the way. Finally the manager said he would handle my move. Next day I get an email from someone there having no clue whats going on. Totally incompetent organization. They made more stress for me than the move itself. I ended up firing them and went with Reloswiss.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

sirva.com is a Chicago based, global moving company that has offices in Geneva. Always good to use a company to where you're moving to vs. where you're moving from - easier to manage any issues.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

I need to ship just one box (less than 30 kg) and the post seems to be the cheapest alternative (already mentioned on page one of the thread). Does any of you know if I need a special box? or the box I bought in coop is good enough? Because the boxes the postoffice sells are for small goods, no bulky stuff.
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I need to ship just one box (less than 30 kg) and the post seems to be the cheapest alternative (already mentioned on page one of the thread). Does any of you know if I need a special box? or the box I bought in coop is good enough? Because the boxes the postoffice sells are for small goods, no bulky stuff.
Depending on whether things inside are fragile or not and the weight will determine the quality of the box you need. You should at least get the special reinforced tape (clear with while squares in it) from Coop Brico or Jumbo. You tape two times in each direction to make sure the box does not fall apart.

See the photos of the tape on this thread: https://www.englishforum.ch/leaving-...st-canada.html
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We are also planning a move to the US. Has anyone had experience with Santa Fe Movers, or Gonzalez? They have given the lower quotes, but I'm not as familiar with their reputations. Thank you

SFORelo

We are not getting quotes for 12,000 for a 20 ft. container. Do you mind sharing which company you used for the 40ft?

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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

These relocation threads have been really helpful. In the midst of our move from Lausanne to California, I thought I'd share some of our experience. This is a long post, but I had a lot of questions when I started this process 6 weeks ago.

Detour: I'm posting here because I've found it to be the best of the multiple threads on the overall relocation topic. A few other threads are:
- How are moving costs calculated - move to US? started by tartegnin in 2012. Discussed the thread topic + sizes and methods of shipping.
- Moving & shipping small amount back to the US started by claireeh and moving companies from CH to USA started by jeromepineau, both in 2013, are good if you're only moving a small amount; discusses posting from FR and DE vs CH.
- Older posts Good Removal Co. (started 2005, posts running through 2012) and Anybody know international removal/shipping companies? (2008) both discuss specific relocation companies. The first of these is mostly about relocation within Europe (My takeaway: check out Allied Pickfords, Crown; lots both pro and con on Lukers.)
(Copy the thread title into the search box in upper right to find them.)

OK, some things I've learned:
- Mostly you deal with a big relocation services company, that then uses its own crews or (more likely) subcontractors who actually pack, load and ship. For example, Sirva (mentioned by DavidHr in post #54, above) uses Schneider. Crown has its own teams both in CH and throughout the US.
- We are (trying!) to stick to a single 20-foot container. Containers are either 20-ft (holds 32 cubic meters) or 40-foot. It is possible to ship small lots, "groupage" (packed into another container, I guess more loosely?) Groupage is cheapest and slowest. "LCL" is related; some people told me it was the same as groupage, others suggested it's a more self-contained small lot on a pallet, thought that pallet is then placed in another not-full container.
- Not sure you can squeeze into your container? You can have a list of "maybe" items that you are prepared to leave in the driveway if they don't fit at the actual time of packing. (Need to figure out how to dispose of later...)
- Shipping time is about 5 to 7 weeks to West Coast. More if you get into big customs review. The presence of certain items (alcohol...) will slow customs clearance.
- Don't ship wine. You can, but it will be ruined by the poor conditions (heat, etc), and slow your shipment
- US security now much more strict. They scan one in three containers. Lots of restricted items.
- Use the airline's luggage allowance (or even buy extra) to carry not just clothes but also prohibited liquid or delicate items you don't want to toss: cosmetics, a special bottle or 3 of Bordeaux... Paying an airport porter is WAY less than shipping by DHL or the like.
(And, just for fun, you've got to google "youtube Fedex delivery fails")
- They will send someone out to survey your stuff to estimate volume. USE this service, ask questions, explore options. Do not use the survey-by-Skype option; sounds reasonable (they just need to take a look), but it can be hard to see in corners, wifi didn't work in the garage... Bottom line, the guy who did the video survey estimated two-thirds more volume than the guys who came in person.
- Easier to get containers on your schedule if you aren't moving end of month.

Specifically about the price:
- We got quotes from Packimpex, Sirva, Crown and Relocately. First 3 were recommendations (1st 2 are the go-to for Nestle corporate relocations).
- Prices were mostly similar, once all the conditions were clarified
- All of them will cut their price if you call back and say their bid is high and you are thinking of going with someone else.
- Pricing is based mostly on volume (labor to pack, load...). One company put the price purely for the difference between a 20' and 40' container with essentially the same volume at just over 1,000 Euro.
- Some particular items incur extra packing charge (e.g. piano)
- make sure all port charges are included (both outgoing "FOB" and US receiving port "THC" terminal handling charges)
- make sure you accurately describe the carry distance at both ends. This affects price. And if it's not as advertised, you pay later (see next bullet).
- Your quote is an estimate; they settle up at the end, based on --
-- Actual volume is determined when loaded. Differences of 10% are accepted; after that you pay more. (If you are squeezing into certain container size, of course, you can't take advantage of the extra 10% )
-- Any exceptional customs charges, etc, will be billed to you.

Between US security rules and the insurance requirements, basically the movers have to pack everything for you. However, they all agreed that we could pack some of our nonbreakables (clothes, toys, books) if we kept the box open for them to "verify" and seal. Had some interest in that, just to see if we were staying on target with our volume estimate, but it saves little to no money. One company would take 150 off the price, another zero.

Re insurance:
- Most charge 2.2% of declared value, plus and extra 0.2% each for any of mold, sets or electrical coverage. Crown charges 2.7% and 0.5%
- They use a formula for declared value, but you can adjust it. Some allow you simply to declare lower, but most make you itemize. However, if you don't have a lot of fancy stuff, you can save 1,000 chf or more by itemizing.

Finally ... drumroll please ... the price:
- 13,700 CHF, excluding insurance and special items, for a full 20-ft container to West Coast (32 m3)
-- Would've been about 17,000 for a 40-ft container with another 5 m3.
-- I note this is just about exactly the price that 5280 reported in April 2015 (post #32 in this thread)

Hope all this helps. Haven't actually moved yet, so no review of quality.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

One more thing to possibly look at given you are trying to fit everything into a 20' container would be a High Cube (HC) container. It is 9'6" high while a regular container is 8'6" high.

Regular 20' container - 33.1m3
High Cube 20' container - 37.4m3

Not sure how much more expensive it would be.
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