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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Hi everyone. Sadly I'm moving back to California in February of 2021. Can someone please give me some advice about shipping less than 4cbm of personal effects? No furniture. Cost is more important than speed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

I own a specialized furniture business and we regularly ship to the US.


Last month I shipped 10m3, 600kg to Long Island NY, by air from GVA. This costed USD 12,000. Our "cheaper" option using LCL (shipping container sharing Rotterdam - NY) was quoted at EUR 3900.


Right now there is a shortage of freight going to-from the US (or anywhere for that matter) and prices are through the roof. Your best option is to use Swisspost if everything fits in 60 x 60 x 100 cm boxes. However normal shipping times don't apply anymore. Our last package, just 5kg, took 6 weeks to deliver to LA.
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Also consider extra luggage if it's not that much stuff and not that large. Then it would at least travel with you.
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Hi everyone. Sadly I'm moving back to California in February of 2021. Can someone please give me some advice about shipping less than 4cbm of personal effects? No furniture. Cost is more important than speed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Get a few quotes from some shipping companies, from the post office, and from your airline. In each case, ask whether the price is for volume or for weight, and whether the rate applies within a range of weights, e.g. from x to y kg, CHF n per kg.

Once you have that kg price, re-assess everything. You might find that some items, with that added tag per kg, just aren't worth shipping. The others will be worth your while, practically or emotionally, and then the price will hurt less.
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Thanks. I'll do that.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

We use for smaller shipments expedismart.ch



They will compare the rates between UPS DHL TNT Fedex etc.



Just keep in mind that you will still have to pay a % for insurance
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Hi everyone. Sadly I'm moving back to California in February of 2021. Can someone please give me some advice about shipping less than 4cbm of personal effects? No furniture. Cost is more important than speed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
I'm in a very comparable situation and preparing things now. As doropfiz pointed out, I think in our situation we have to look very critically at CHF/kg when deciding what is worth shipping and what not.

I did not yet bother requesting quotes from shippers, but it seems to me that as long as everything fits into reasonably sized boxes and one has only a few hundred kg of stuff in total, nothing will come close to SwissPost. For example, 15 boxes which are 25 kg each would cost about 2055 CHF. Additional will be a small cost for boxes and packing material, and maybe a mobility van to drop everything off at the post office. The stuff simply gets delivered to wherever you want, no hassle. I factor in that there might be some delays of a few extra weeks given the current global situation, for me this doesn't matter.

To inform your packing strategy, also take note of the current CHF/kg as indicated below (sorry for the terrible image quality). The y axis says $ but it's actually CHF, the x axis is kg of the package. Obviously there are price jumps at 10,15,20,25 kg. I did not include <10 kg because it's far less economical. I plan to mix heavy and light things to be sure each package is roughly 18 kg or more. For the most part heavier is more economical.

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I am using the Jumbo Umzugskarton, 4.5 CHF ea., 84 L, reasonably cheap and robust. I bought some much larger boxes but they were not as sturdy and simply far too large to be practical, so I don't think I'll use any of them.

Just keep track of what you put in each box for CBP Form 3299 and normal packing lists for SwissPost, and avoid all the obvious stuff - food, drink, flammables, etc

If anyone has any different/better ideas for this situation I would be happy to hear them.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Hi, it's an idea I had not considered. I'm looking at Jumbo's banana boxes. they seem even stronger. I have a quote for 5cm for about 2460CHF including insurance, and some packing.
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Hi, it's an idea I had not considered. I'm looking at Jumbo's banana boxes. they seem even stronger. I have a quote for 5cm for about 2460CHF including insurance, and some packing.
Those boxes look fine, but they are pretty small, about 47L. These are the ones I'm using at the moment:

https://www.jumbo.ch/de/zuegelkarton...42?sku=1258758

..84 L. With that larger size it still takes some effort to get up to the more economical package weight, I have to be sure to include a significant quantity of dense things like books/tools/kitchenware in each box. Of course if you're not paying per box it doesn't matter.

That quote you got sounds quite attractive. Do you mind sharing who gave it, and what it's for exactly? i.e.... approx. shipping time? Door to door from your CH address to a US address, or ...? Have you heard good things about the shipper? Thanks for any information.
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Schmidt Global Logistics Relocations
Stationsweg Oost 281D
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Ask for Joost +31337600274

They came well recommended. I have not used them, however.
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Re: Moving to USA, Shipping quotes

Hi all,
I think I'm going to use Expedismart.ch and just ship a few boxes as I don't have any large items/furniture, etc.

Next question is about US customs and declared value for items you already own or have owned. Particularly photo equipment (lenses, bodies, etc). I don't have receipts for each item.

Anyone run into this?

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Schmidt Global Logistics Relocations
Stationsweg Oost 281D
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www.schmidt-global.nl
+31 (0) 33-7600 270

Ask for Joost +31337600274

They came well recommended. I have not used them, however.
Thanks for sharing that information. I've now boxed up most things and it comes to roughly 3 cubic meters, and will cost roughly 2,500 CHF with Swiss post... although that's without insurance, probably some boxes I would insure and some not, which will add a little I suppose.

If you don't mind sharing further: The quote you received from Schmidt, was that door to door? Air or surface taking roughly how long?

If I enter rough values into expedismart it gives me nonsense like 14,000 CHF. How did you end up deciding to use that instead of Swiss Post? Did you get more reasonable numbers?

As for your customs question, in similar situations I have always given rough "best estimate" values, I think if they are semi-reasonable they will not complain, and I don't see any way to give a better value, because even if you look up new prices etc., things depreciate in value and that's hard to quantify.
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Great to see someone recommending Schmidt Logistics. They are actually the company who quoted us around EUR 4k Door-to-door, CH to NY state for 10m3, 600 kg inc packing and T1 transit documentation.


We have used them on several occasions, lately mostly for shipping large volumes to South Korea. I do recommend them. In essence they are a moving company, so they can pack, crate if necessary and organize everything efficiently.



I think when using Swiss post, it will be more difficult to prove your personal items are part of a migration back to the US. You might end up being charged for the value of your OWN household goods by the US customs. Using a moving company would avoid that.
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Great to see someone recommending Schmidt Logistics. They are actually the company who quoted us around EUR 4k Door-to-door, CH to NY state for 10m3, 600 kg inc packing and T1 transit documentation.


We have used them on several occasions, lately mostly for shipping large volumes to South Korea. I do recommend them. In essence they are a moving company, so they can pack, crate if necessary and organize everything efficiently.



I think when using Swiss post, it will be more difficult to prove your personal items are part of a migration back to the US. You might end up being charged for the value of your OWN household goods by the US customs. Using a moving company would avoid that.
Thanks for the recommendation.

Regarding your last point, each box would have an attached CBP Form 3299 ("Declaration for Free Entry of Unaccompanied Articles"), so I would not expect any trouble with customs. I know a couple people who anecdotally had no trouble that way, but maybe others have heard or experienced otherwise, I don't know.
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