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AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Hello,

Im thinking to leave Switzerland to relocate back in Jordan, Im looking for information about how to get back the AVS - 1st pillar.
I heard some threads that the AVS can not be withdrawn if the requester is an EU citizen, and that I have to wait till I reach 65 years old and come back to claim for a lump sum payment, I have dual nationality, Slovakian and Jordanian. Jordan has no agreement with Switzerland with regards to the AVS.
the thing is that I have never lived in Slovakia or worked there, Just get it from my parents.

has anyone had such experience or knows someone with similar case?
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Old 30.05.2014, 15:15
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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

You can still do it if you're not planning on living in an EU country.

https://www.ch.ch/en/withdraw-pension-early
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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

DearMedea,

Thank you for your kind reply I think you are reffering to the second Pillar, for this one, yes, you can withdraw the money in cash, but I dont know about the First pillar, (AVS/AHV)

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https://www.ch.ch/en/refund-ahv-contributions
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Big Thanks Medea, does it mean that depending on the new location of residence not Nationality, i.e. Im EU Citizen, going to relocate in Jordan (No such Agreement with Switzerland), Then I can get the AVS??
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Big Thanks Medea, does it mean that depending on the new location of residence not Nationality, i.e. Im EU Citizen, going to relocate in Jordan (No such Agreement with Switzerland), Then I can get the AVS??
All that matters is your new country of residence.
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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Thanks Alot

Actually I got confused a little bit, does it mean that my AVS can be refunded if Im relocating outside EU even if Im EU + Jordanian citizen?

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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Yes, residence is the key.
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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Hi Jordanian.
I know this was a while back and you may not even be an active user anymore but here goes:
I'm in a similar situation (South African citizen with Italian too due to parents). I'm gonna leave Switzerland and intend going back to SA. So I'm curious to know if you were paid out. I went to the office the other day and predictably said I'm disqualified by the Italian citizenship. I'm not to worried because I knew they'd make it difficult so I'm preparing to argue. You experience would help.
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Hi Jordanian.
I know this was a while back and you may not even be an active user anymore but here goes:
I'm in a similar situation (South African citizen with Italian too due to parents). I'm gonna leave Switzerland and intend going back to SA. So I'm curious to know if you were paid out. I went to the office the other day and predictably said I'm disqualified by the Italian citizenship. I'm not to worried because I knew they'd make it difficult so I'm preparing to argue. You experience would help.
OP was asking about Pillar1, you were asking about Pillar 2, different story.
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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Just to ne clear, I'm interested in pillar 1. I understood the op also dealt with this:
'Im thinking to leave Switzerland to relocate back in Jordan, Im looking for information about how to get back the AVS - 1st pillar.'
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You are Italian, no AVS refund for you.

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Re: AVS Refund - relocate outside EU

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to double-check the following matters:

1. For OASI/DI what matters is my citizenship and not the country where I am planning to move, isn`t it?

2. For the occupational pension scheme (2nd pillar), it is essential that I relocate to a country which is not an EU/EFTA member. Is this correct?

Thanks a lot for your help!
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