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Old 19.10.2015, 13:55
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Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

I need some help about what I need to do to leave Switzerland with my two little dogs to move back to the US.

I have figured out how they enter the US, which is basically their dog passports (all up to date). But it's the leaving part that has me confused. I called Swiss airlines to see if I needed a health certificate. She said yes, maybe, check the website, the dogs will be checked out by a vet at the airport, and then she completely changed the subject.

Can anyone definitively tell me what I need besides rabies certifications to leave Switzerland?

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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

Amanda, I haven't moved back yet, (I'm still here because for the last ca 10 years I've had dogs who cannot fly) so I can't give any recent personal experience.

But until someone comes along who has made the move recently, the two websites you need to peruse are the CDC:

http://www.cdc.gov/importation/bring...ates/dogs.html

And APHIS:
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/porta...l_imports_pets


When I am finally able to move back I will use a pet shipping professional, if only for my peace of mind. One in Switzerland with a good reputation is Ace Pet Moving. Again, I have not used them but I had some correspondence with them a few years ago and was impressed with their knowledge.

http://www.acepetmoving.com/en/about-us.html



Good luck with your move, hope your dogs enjoy life 'back home'.
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I need some help about what I need to do to leave Switzerland with my two little dogs to move back to the US.

I have figured out how they enter the US, which is basically their dog passports (all up to date). But it's the leaving part that has me confused. I called Swiss airlines to see if I needed a health certificate. She said yes, maybe, check the website, the dogs will be checked out by a vet at the airport, and then she completely changed the subject.

Can anyone definitively tell me what I need besides rabies certifications to leave Switzerland?

Thank you.
Just did this one month ago. Got a travel certification from our Swiss vet, made sure her passport was up-to-date with rabies and all other shots, booked her on Swiss (or any Lufthansa airline which allows pets in-cabin) and off we went to the US. Never was questioned at the airline counter, outbound immigration, or US Customs. US Customs is typically much more interested in what pet FOOD you are bringing than the pet itself if it is just a normal dog/cat (based on years of travel experience.)
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Just did this one month ago. Got a travel certification from our Swiss vet, made sure her passport was up-to-date with rabies and all other shots, booked her on Swiss (or any Lufthansa airline which allows pets in-cabin) and off we went to the US. Never was questioned at the airline counter, outbound immigration, or US Customs. US Customs is typically much more interested in what pet FOOD you are bringing than the pet itself if it is just a normal dog/cat (based on years of travel experience.)
Forgot to add - and if you are a US citizen especially, technically your dog only needs the rabies vaccination to enter the US. Amazing how low-key they are about it given all the other hassles.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

goheelswks -

Could you add a bit of information?

I booked my two cats on SWISS on my flight back to the USA in May. What was the procedure at baggage check in? Did you just arrive with the crate at the baggage counter?
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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

I've made the trip back & forth from Geneva to Washington, DC about sixteen times - each with either one or both of my Jack Russells. They're small (5kg) and fit under the seat in cabin. Never, ever had I even had so much as a glance at my dogs from either Swiss or US officials - only exception is going through X-ray when I have to take the pooch out of the carrier to pass it through the machine.
You will need to have up-to-date Swiss doggie passport; your vet will tell you what is needed and when - there is a time limit on certain of the vaccinations (i.e., must be given within so many days of travel).
I typically fly United; cost is about 125 USD for each dog. Most airlines which allow cabin dogs limit the total number to four in cabin. You need to call the airline with the specific flight info in order to see if there are other dogs flying that day and whether they have reached quota (I've never had that happen).
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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

When we went to move to the US:

1 call your vet
2 make appointment with vet max 10 days before departure. They will also fill out all the needed paperwork. (and do all needed shots(( these can be done before hand as in not the 10 days)
3. Make sure kennel is correct size.
4. book tickets by calling airlines!!!! not all flights take animals on board.

We used United and I have with 2 other dogs in the past (2 in cargo, 1 in cabin) with the cargo ones they brought me a ticked with the dogs name and it said " Hi I'm being well taken care off and enjoying the flight" or something along those lines; for all transfers.

United 125 $
NOONE has ever looked at flight documents for dog ..... but better to have em all in order just in case

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Some airports have dog areas to let them out. Washington does and it was real nice....
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goheelswks -

Could you add a bit of information?

I booked my two cats on SWISS on my flight back to the USA in May. What was the procedure at baggage check in? Did you just arrive with the crate at the baggage counter?

If they go in cargo, you leave them at luggage check.
If they fly in cabin, you tag them along wherever you go. (cant let them out)
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If they go in cargo, you leave them at luggage check.
If they fly in cabin, you tag them along wherever you go. (cant let them out)
When you say "leave them at luggage check" - you don't mean that they let the crates go down the conveyor belt? That would seem pretty dangerous to the animal...
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When you say "leave them at luggage check" - you don't mean that they let the crates go down the conveyor belt? That would seem pretty dangerous to the animal...
Nono someone comes and picks them up from the luggage check .

What happens after I do not know ......
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Nono someone comes and picks them up from the luggage check .

What happens after I do not know ......
And probably don't want to know. I will NEVER put my pet in cargo. They fly with me in cabin, no questions asked.
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When you say "leave them at luggage check" - you don't mean that they let the crates go down the conveyor belt? That would seem pretty dangerous to the animal...
Yep- our daughter nearly died when she saw Slinky's crate go up the luggage conveyor belt when she came back to live here from Spain. He is only a dachshund, but he was just oo heavy to take in cabin and Air Berlin refused. How big are your dogs DantesDame- you can't take a large dog in cabin, can you?
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Most airlines restrict in cabin pets to 8kg, including the weight of the container. The container usually has dimension restrictions as well.

There are some exceptions on some airlines in some countries for some routes for certified service dogs. But come to think of it, I've only ever seen larger service dogs on short haul flights.

Bottom line, call the airline. And verify twice.


(Mine are all too big to fly in cabin, hence the reason I'm still here.)
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Yes, Slinky and container weighed in at 1 kg extra, even when buying a new lighter container- so he just had to go in hold.

Was going to comment that was the reason you are still here, but felt it was not my place to say so x
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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

Hi everyone,

I'm moving back to the States permanently with my dog this week. I have everything arranged for him with the airline, and after checking and double checking all the US websites I'm surprised to see it's just the rabies certificate that they are requiring--we only moved to CH a couple months ago so he is up to date. I was thinking I could get a health certificate as well just to be on the safe side, but can anyone confirm if this is a needed step?

More importantly, is there anything I need to do to de-register the dog from the database here in Switzerland? Do I need to provide anything to the municipality?
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More importantly, is there anything I need to do to de-register the dog from the database here in Switzerland? Do I need to provide anything to the municipality?
On the Amicus site, you need to fill out the date your dog will leave Switzerland in the 'Exportadresse im Ausland' section.
https://www.amicus.ch/Account/Login

You likely also have to inform the person responsible for dog registration at your Gemeinde; don't assume that your de-registration will automatically pick up your dog's status as well. 'Likely' because from what posters have reported the various dog registration/deregistration processes seem to differ from place to place. Just ask at the Gemeinde, they will tell you what you need to do.

Good luck with your move!
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Re: Leaving Switzerland with Dogs to US

Just as a heads-up to anyone else in this situation, you DO need a health certificate depending on which state you are landing in--it is a state requirement, not a federal one. In this case, we're landing in Boston and Massachusetts requires a health certificate. (Not sure if it will actually be checked but better safe than sorry).

So, a current rabies certificate and a health certificate for flying with your pet to Massachusetts.
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On the Amicus site, you need to fill out the date your dog will leave Switzerland in the 'Exportadresse im Ausland' section.
https://www.amicus.ch/Account/Login

You likely also have to inform the person responsible for dog registration at your Gemeinde; don't assume that your de-registration will automatically pick up your dog's status as well. 'Likely' because from what posters have reported the various dog registration/deregistration processes seem to differ from place to place. Just ask at the Gemeinde, they will tell you what you need to do.

Good luck with your move!
If you paid the annual dog tax less than 6 months ago, you may be entitled to a refund. At least we were when 2 of our dogs passed away within 6 months of having paid the tax. It was the gemeinde who informed me about it, and perhaps this varies by canton or gemeinde.
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If you paid the annual dog tax less than 6 months ago, you may be entitled to a refund. At least we were when 2 of our dogs passed away within 6 months of having paid the tax. It was the gemeinde who informed me about it, and perhaps this varies by canton or gemeinde.
I suspect it might vary by Gemeinde. Or maybe by whim of the person with the rubber stamp.

When I lost Puddle mid January '15 - having paid the tax a week before - there was no refund.

I did get a refund when St Swimbo died in April - but this was 15 years ago. (How can it be so long ago? I still see her out of the corner of my eye every now and again...)

My others all died in the second half of the year, so I wouldn't have expected refunds.

On the other hand, when adopting mid year, some were charged a prorated tax but others were charged for the full year. Does not seem to be a rhyme or reason.

I just pay whatever is asked on the day. Given my precarious situation, I'm not going to poke any hornets' nests by arguing.
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I suspect it might vary by Gemeinde. Or maybe by whim of the person with the rubber stamp.

When I lost Puddle mid January '15 - having paid the tax a week before - there was no refund.

I did get a refund when St Swimbo died in April - but this was 15 years ago. (How can it be so long ago? I still see her out of the corner of my eye every now and again...)

My others all died in the second half of the year, so I wouldn't have expected refunds.

On the other hand, when adopting mid year, some were charged a prorated tax but others were charged for the full year. Does not seem to be a rhyme or reason.

I just pay whatever is asked on the day. Given my precarious situation, I'm not going to poke any hornets' nests by arguing.
The person at the counter in the finance department showed me something in writing with the 6 month rule. Maybe it is specific to our village. When we registered our newest family member in January, we didn't pay the dog tax until the invoice arrived in April, which is when the dog tax is usually billed here.
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