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I'm shortly to be leaving CH and obviously need to de-register. In order to cancel things like Healthcare and TV/Internet contracts I obviously need the confirmation of de-registration from my Gemeinde/Kanton.


The question is how soon can this confirmation of de-registration be obtained? Do I have to wait until the day I physically leave Switzerland before I can get hold of it (after handing in Work permit) or can I get it before? such that I can sort out my affairs a week or two in advance??


Anyone with recent experience able to help?


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forgot to mention that I'm aware that I have to do a Tax return before I can get it and am working on that...... but is there anything else?

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Old 29.07.2017, 22:21
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Re: De-registering process

You can get it a few weeks before. You fill in the deregistration form, putting the date you will leave the country on, but you get a document from the gemeinde/commune stating this which can be used for cancellation purposes for phones, insurances, etc. Check with the gemeinde/commune on how early they'll accept the deregistration form.

Hope you've given proper termination notice on your rental property. Or found a replacement tenant.
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I'm shortly to be leaving CH and obviously need to de-register. In order to cancel things like Healthcare and TV/Internet contracts I obviously need the confirmation of de-registration from my Gemeinde/Kanton.


The question is how soon can this confirmation of de-registration be obtained? Do I have to wait until the day I physically leave Switzerland before I can get hold of it (after handing in Work permit) or can I get it before? such that I can sort out my affairs a week or two in advance??


Anyone with recent experience able to help?


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forgot to mention that I'm aware that I have to do a Tax return before I can get it and am working on that...... but is there anything else?
Speak with the Gemeinde desk. From my experience you can deregister 14 days before your official leaving date: i.e., you can go in on September 20th for example to say you are departing on September 30th; perhaps it depends on the Gemeinde because they each have their own local rules. They will give you a letter confirming the end of residency date, but they will also require at the time of saying when you are leaving, the new address for the record of where you are going to (within or outside Switzerland). That way any documents, bills etc., will get to you after departure (e.g., the end of year heating cost calculation and so on).

Tax return rules remain the same - if you are under the threshold you may not have anything to do (if for example it is a Permit B Quellensteuer situation). They will just have a record of the salary certificate. If you are a contractor it is probably (much) more complex. It largely depends on what country you are from (passport) and the double tax treaty they have. If there is a double taxation treaty you probably don't hear anything further after deregistration (if EU citizen).

Once you have the letter, you can produce it for the services and rental agreement. They will happily cancel, but you still need to fulfil the terms of whatever contract you signed (e.g., 24 month contract for mobile phone, etc., ).
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Re: De-registering process

I got mine nearly 4 weeks before departure, turn up pay some extra tax in cash get certificate, about 30 minutes in total. Final tax return dome a month after leaving & refund received a month after that.
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Speak with the Gemeinde desk. From my experience you can deregister 14 days before your official leaving date: i.e., you can go in on September 20th for example to say you are departing on September 30th; perhaps it depends on the Gemeinde because they each have their own local rules. They will give you a letter confirming the end of residency date, but they will also require at the time of saying when you are leaving, the new address for the record of where you are going to (within or outside Switzerland). That way any documents, bills etc., will get to you after departure (e.g., the end of year heating cost calculation and so on).

Tax return rules remain the same - if you are under the threshold you may not have anything to do (if for example it is a Permit B Quellensteuer situation). They will just have a record of the salary certificate. If you are a contractor it is probably (much) more complex. It largely depends on what country you are from (passport) and the double tax treaty they have. If there is a double taxation treaty you probably don't hear anything further after deregistration (if EU citizen).

Once you have the letter, you can produce it for the services and rental agreement. They will happily cancel, but you still need to fulfil the terms of whatever contract you signed (e.g., 24 month contract for mobile phone, etc., ).
@peternieder, Thank you very much for sharing useful information. I'm going to leave Switzerland soon. I start searching how to deregister. You recommend to go to the Gemeinde (in my case it would be Kreisburo). Don't we have to go to City Hall?

I refer to City Hall due to this website.
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/en/...nmeldeamt.html
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Old 31.07.2017, 15:54
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@peternieder, Thank you very much for sharing useful information. I'm going to leave Switzerland soon. I start searching how to deregister. You recommend to go to the Gemeinde (in my case it would be Kreisburo). Don't we have to go to City Hall?

I refer to City Hall due to this website.
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/en/...nmeldeamt.html
Gemeine = city hall = town hall
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Thank you very much Roegner.
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Re: De-registering process

I just checked about the de-registration if you live in Zurich city. You have to go to the below address. You can do it one month in advance.

Stadthaus de Stadt Zurich -- Abmeldebüro
Stadthausquai 17
8001 Zurich
Monday - Friday 8:00 - 16:30
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Re: De-registering process

Thanks for this information. I am also worried about the time for finnishing the related stuffs. A few weeks time seems enough.
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Re: De-registering process

I de-registered myself this Monday, had the same thought as the OP so I went to Stadthaus Zurich only a week before my departure. They open from 8:00 to 16:30. I was told by my Kreisburo to bring my B permit and the Kreisburo registration letter that I got when first time moving into my Kreis. There at the window the gentleman was very nice and he passed me the form to fill up. He also called the tax office to know if I need to talk with them. Then in about 30 minutes the procedure is done, and I paid 30 franc to get my de-registration attestation.

Then I contacted my health insurance and apartment/liability insurance company, both of them let me just send that de-registration form in email to cancel my contract, no need to send a registered letter.
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Re: De-registering process

Anyone is aware i am a C permit holder/EU and need to deregister, my wife holds permit B third country but i need to go back to my country for 1,5 years for personal reasons.Do i need to change the rental contract of the flat we currently stay and change also the GMBH/shop i have together with my wife?My intention is to return back to Switzerland and my wife will stay here anyway working in our store.
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Sorry, but this is likely impossible. If you deregister it certainly won't be possible since her permit is dependent on you having one. No permit for you, no permit for her.

You could see if putting your C permit on hold would allow her to stay here, but I'm doubtful about that too since one of the requirements of family reunification is that your dependents live with you here. If you're not here, then she's not doing that. Still I would discuss this with your gemeinde/cantonal migration office whether putting the C permit on hold would allow her to stay here or not since they're the ones who'll make the decision on this.
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Hello Medea,truly when she arrived she was depending on me but she is here 5 years alweady and renewed her aussweis recently and she is working in our shop paying taxes as usual etc. Do you mean that if i deregister the migration office might ask her also to leave the country?Yes i will ask my lawyer and gemeinde to be 100% sure.Thank you!!



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Sorry, but this is likely impossible. If you deregister it certainly won't be possible since her permit is dependent on you having one. No permit for you, no permit for her.

You could see if putting your C permit on hold would allow her to stay here, but I'm doubtful about that too since one of the requirements of family reunification is that your dependents live with you here. If you're not here, then she's not doing that. Still I would discuss this with your gemeinde/cantonal migration office whether putting the C permit on hold would allow her to stay here or not since they're the ones who'll make the decision on this.
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Yes, her permit depends on yours. It doesn't matter that she's working in your business and not financially dependent on you, if you don't have a permit then neither does she and yes, she would have to leave the country. For her to be able to stay and work in the business you'd have to apply for a new permit for her and prove that you can't find a Swiss/EU national who could do her job. The family reunification permit is what allows her to work here without that hassle.
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Re: De-registering process

I am sorry Medea Fleecestealerto contradict you here but it should be absolutely fine for the wife to stay in CH (> 3 years in CH for non-EU) as long as she has a job and doesnt live off the governemnt. and yes park you C (have 4-5 years chance) and come back anytime during this period. dont forget to check with ur Gemeinde
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I am sorry Medea Fleecestealerto contradict you here but it should be absolutely fine for the wife to stay in CH (> 3 years in CH for non-EU) as long as she has a job and doesnt live off the governemnt. and yes park you C (have 4-5 years chance) and come back anytime during this period. dont forget to check with ur Gemeinde
thank you both for the help, i have officially asked the migration to hold my c permit but they denied it.Initially, when i went there the guy on the desk told me that i can apply to be parked for 4 years
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I am sorry Medea Fleecestealerto contradict you here but it should be absolutely fine for the wife to stay in CH (> 3 years in CH for non-EU) as long as she has a job and doesnt live off the governemnt. and yes park you C (have 4-5 years chance) and come back anytime during this period. dont forget to check with ur Gemeinde
The wife doesn't have a C permit. If she did, then she could stay without problems. She only has a B, and it is dependent upon her husband's permit. She only has a job because of the dependent permit. Otherwise his shop would have to go through the non-EU hiring process to hire her. If the primary permit holder leaves, then the dependent usually has to leave too. As Medea says, the point of family reunification is that the family is together.

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thank you both for the help, i have officially asked the migration to hold my c permit but they denied it.Initially, when i went there the guy on the desk told me that i can apply to be parked for 4 years
The reasons for which you can hold a C permit are limited. Instead of de-registering, is there any way you can do some traveling back and forth, so that you both stay registered here and keep your permits? I realize it means continuing your health insurance, etc. but it might be the most practical way to get everything you want.
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Nope as the real reason is to extend my driving licences and work also myself due to the language it is impossible to get them here, hence i need to be de-registered for 8 months to 1 year for these to be valid when i am back thanks a lot!

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Learn German then. If you plan on getting Swiss citizenship in the future you'll need that anyway. And be glad that Greece is on the language exemption list for language requirements for C permits, otherwise you would have probably found yourself needing a language certificate when reapplying for your C.
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Learn German then. If you plan on getting Swiss citizenship in the future you'll need that anyway. And be glad that Greece is on the language exemption list for language requirements for C permits, otherwise you would have probably found yourself needing a language certificate when reapplying for your C.
Answering to this above it will end us out of topic trust me but thank you for your advices Medea and the rest.
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