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Old 07.04.2018, 11:48
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Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

So, we can all think of a hundred and one reasons why moving to England is a bad idea. From the appalling weather to the overbearing nanny state, from the crap public transport to the antisocial behaviour which plagues every housing estate and shopping centre. It's a horrible country. We know that.

But people move there all the time, and anecdotal evidence suggests that those who do so rarely regret it. So what's the deal? What's so good about England? What does it have that Switzerland can't deliver?

I'm particularly curious to hear from people who have actually made the move and can share their experiences, both positive and negative.
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

-Actual rights

-Decent business (with respectful attitude and common sense)

-Not stuck in (current date - decades)

-No fear of changes

-Decent language which can be actually used everywhere in the world

-Some form of social culture (pubs)

-Office banter

-Not believing they are the bests but trying to be sufficient

-Not fear of conflict or express opinion

-Foreigners have an opportunity to be welcomed (even if there has related issues with numbers and recent waves of migration)

-Economy is more free, offers to change banks, etc... (as opposed to local Swiss cartels of...Banks, health, insurances, etc...)

-Actual job market (beside Zurich here)

-International food choices available AND not costing a kidney and the arm

-Cheaper flight offers

-There's no neighboor patrol 24/7 watch there (ok CCTV but with the rubbish quality is kind of ok)

-People won't report you because you went creative with your mailbox name tag.

-People driving on the wrong side of the road, it's thrilling to avoid all of them on the roads

-Shops are open all the time, so there's some freedom

-You're not necessarily considered an invader there and there's no constant bashing about border workers

-There's wildness there, people actually enjoying and outgoing

-There's no histerical women going on about the washing day for ever

-People won't disturb you for stupid rules or prevent you from actually having... a washing machine at home.

-Brits can take humour and mocking (probably because they know they're not perfect unlike french).
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

I had a friend who moved to England and who, even after several years there, still took great delight in seeing the historic buildings and places she'd learnt about, right there, for real, and in finding the images of English literature of all kinds come to life before her very eyes. There they were "changing guards at Buckhingham Palace", there was Mr Plod, there was the "host of golden daffodils", etc. For her, quite apart from the mundane, this is an important factor of quality of life.

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Old 07.04.2018, 12:51
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

Good people, good banter.
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Old 07.04.2018, 12:52
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-Office banter
This is the single biggest thing I miss from back home. Working here is like working in a morgue
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Old 07.04.2018, 13:04
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

Politeness. Almost Victorian rituals in communication. Music scene and arts. Vegan weirdness way ahead its trend.

Marmite!

Birdwatching. Nature.

Small communities are amazing, helpful and kind. Tight.
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Old 07.04.2018, 13:41
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

The beer, and the breakfast buffet.

That's all I lived on for two months (plus the occasional lunch trip to civilisation, aka Calais, for some REAL food).

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Old 07.04.2018, 13:45
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

Rugby union and rugby league
Cricket
Football
LTA (Lawn Tennis Association)
Wimbledon
...
Multiple choice of sports
...
And English Ale


What else to ask for?
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Old 07.04.2018, 13:47
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

Chippies.
Jaguars.
Men with sheds.
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Old 07.04.2018, 13:50
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

For me it’d be all about the location. I could happily see myself living in Devon, or Dorset or on the Shropshire border, Wiltshire, Herefordshire... basically anywhere that’s rural, green and pleasant. Greater London Stabistan or Dewsbury, not so much.

And then along comes everything else:- schooling, salaries, taxation, quality of housing, having to put yourself at the mercy of the NHS, having the choice of two shite political parties on your ballot paper, the trains, nanny state and and and... and I always come to the same conclusion that I can’t see myself ever moving back. Though the office banter is fabulous.
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

My friends in Bristol
English country cottages - idilic
Country roads in summer
Border officers (the most polite folks in England, along with Tesco staff)
....but everything is subjective.
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Old 07.04.2018, 14:11
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Proper fish & chips and real ale at the seaside
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Country pubs, having a laugh at work, the mastery of sarcasm.
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Old 07.04.2018, 14:37
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Dr. Martens.
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Dare I say it?...the NHS (for all its failings, it is still a service to the people to be proud of, in my opinion)
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Ha ha, brill!!
This immediately made me be thankful for the music scene and the music genres and the musicians and artist from the UK who were the make-up and soundtrack of my youth...and beyond, as they still are an intrinsic part of me. Globally recognised and admired by the world.
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Positives: I live here.. good ol’ blighty, I love, loves it! ’Tis a lovely comfortable old battered wobbly chair everyone fights over and complains about in equal measure. The banter, the people, the fact my neighbours and I will talk for an age over our garden fences.. four neighbours with gardens all in a row, ranting and raving about Brexit last Summer, lol.. we look after each others houses, cats, water plants.. summer allotment offerings, community is cool. The country - travel a few hours and everything changes, the accents, the people, Bronte country, Shakespeare's land, Austen’s house is not far from me.. history you can smell, touch and feel. Music, the culture, comedy are everywhere.. and I love the food. Good decent curry houses, asian or middle eastern food, fish and chips.. and potatoes: King Edwards, Roosters, Maris pipers, Russetts, decent baking potatoes, farmers market potatoes, parsnip and turnips.

The negatives: the testing and government interference in education, primary school in particularly, is dismal.. primary kids lose their love of learning, their childhood and competitiveness takes over, yuck, big bug bear of mine. Secondary school is so much better, learning improves, passionate subject teachers and the pastoral care is fab. My son has just arrived home happy and exhausted from a week of skiing in France with school and the seven brilliant teachers who took them did a great job. The Head of Year in my son’s school is a dedicated, funny, brilliant teacher.. so education, yep, ups and downs. Funding across the UK is heartbreaking - mental health care for children, adults is almost gone and witnessing the humiliation and poor treatment of the disabled and their families is.. well, there are no words for it really..

I love Ireland and Switzerland too, but I have chosen to live here.

It’s my birthday today and I get to have a spicy curry pig-out tonight, yum! Cheers me dears.. might even wear me doc martens
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Re: Experiences: what's so good about England, anyway?

and the fact that regardless of how crap your day has been, or the problems you're trying to sort out, big or small, or the shitty weather, you now things will look up when someone says these words:


"Sit down, put you're feet up, I'll just put the kettle on"


because back home EVERYTHING can be solved with a good cuppa!
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Old 07.04.2018, 15:47
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The beer, and the breakfast buffet.

That's all I lived on for two months (plus the occasional lunch trip to civilisation, aka Calais, for some REAL food).
Same old chestnut from you.

We all did that in the seventies/eighties (when you visited)

Things have changed in the last forty years.

It's like saying Germany's a nice place to visit apart from the Swastikas flying from flag poles everywhere.

Change the record, please...
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It's like saying Germany's a nice place to visit apart from the Swastikas flying from flag poles everywhere.
Not quite, as German food and beer is far worse.

And it was only 34 years ago, enough to scar me for life!

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And then are are their disgusting smoking habits...

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