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Has17 06.10.2019 20:36

Reason leaving CH
 
Hi all,


I was wondering what is the mean reason to leave CH.


Everyone tells me IT is the best country to live but I see many people left CH after retirement.



Regards


Hasan

roegner 06.10.2019 20:41

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Originally Posted by Has17 (Post 3106885)

but I see many people left CH after retirement.

Because some people only got a job later in life here and cannot afford to retire here, because your money is worth a lot in another country, because you want to be "home" ?

Medea Fleecestealer 06.10.2019 20:45

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Got a job in another country, hated being here, etc, etc. Probably as many reasons to leave as to stay.

EdwinNL 06.10.2019 21:40

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Did not build up enough pension to stay here and/or taking the Swiss pension elsewhere grants a better life (Financially)

terrifisch 06.10.2019 22:53

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If we could, I would definitely opt to stay in Switzerland but with our kids and extended family in the US as well as a home there, it looks as though we may have to return and retire in the US at some point.

Note, that the healthcare system in the US, in my view, is in shambles, and I shudder at the cost we will pay to have the same level of coverage we have here in Switzerland, once my husband does retire. Thankfully, retirement appears to be a quite a few years away but one never knows...

meloncollie 06.10.2019 23:28

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I shall not go gently into that good night.

As I rage, rage against the dying of the light I wish to do so at the hour of my choosing, unemcumbered by quiet regulations and post-it notes.

So I shall burn and rave at close of day... somewhere else.


---

But surely - each of us makes a personal decision to stay or go. There is no mean (nor median, nor even average) reason. Nor right nor wrong.

terrifisch 06.10.2019 23:33

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Originally Posted by meloncollie (Post 3106926)
I shall not go gently into that good night.

As I rage, rage against the dying of the light I wish to do so at the hour of my choosing, unemcumbered by quiet regulations and post-it notes.

So I shall burn and rave at close of day... somewhere else.

Love your take on Dylan Thomas :)

22 yards 07.10.2019 00:01

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Originally Posted by Has17 (Post 3106885)
Everyone tells me IT is the best country to live

IT is not, and certainly not for everyone.

Tom1234 07.10.2019 11:04

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Originally Posted by 22 yards (Post 3106935)
IT is not, and certainly not for everyone.

For a country to be the best in the world, the food would have to be quite a but better. (Unless eating well was not one of life's pleasures and you just ate to live).

k_and_e 07.10.2019 11:16

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3106986)
For a country to be the best in the world, the food would have to be quite a but better. (Unless eating well was not one of life's pleasures and you just ate to live).

Most food that you eat in your life is probably prepared but yourself, your partner or your parents. Complaining about food in a country then generally means that you suck at cooking;)

venetian 07.10.2019 11:21

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3106986)
For a country to be the best in the world, the food would have to be quite a but better. (Unless eating well was not one of life's pleasures and you just ate to live).

Agreed, but at least you are close to Italy and many supermarkets import specialties from there :D Although I admit I'm biased...

And in general (maybe because the local cuisine is not SO special?) there are many restaurants offering foreign tastes.

curley 07.10.2019 11:25

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Originally Posted by Has17 (Post 3106885)
Hi all,
I was wondering what is the mean reason to leave CH.

Everyone tells me IT is the best country to live but I see many people left CH after retirement.

Regards
Hasan

There are as many reasons as there are individuals on the planet.

There is no "best country to live" as it depends on:
  • personal wishes and priorities
  • phases in life when demands/expectations vary
  • once you feel you've "seen the place" you want to move on to an other
  • circle of old friends and family (and how important it is to you to live "next door" to them)

So once again there is no right-or-wrong, no good-or-bad but a personal decision to make. (Isn't life a bitch :msnsarcastic:)

slammer 07.10.2019 11:26

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CH is money, if you have it itīs great place to be, if not, well there are cheaper places to be.
But one thing stood out recenty that explains what is going on in CH.
A while ago I was passing through after a weekend bikeride, not on the motorway of course, because, well Vignette. And I stopped at a petrol station. before me a German couple was paying for their fuel and he bought a Bild Zeitung, (German budgie cage liner of a daily newspaper.) It was three times more expensive than he was used to and he complained.
The attendent told the guy with a smirk that CH is a high price country. Now it wasnīt the price that what bothered me, or the cringable German who MUST buy a newspaper from home, no it was the smirk, the "if-you-think-itīs-expensive-donīt-come-here-you-poverty-sticken-Jerry." smirk.
Somehow it just bugged me.

Tom1234 07.10.2019 11:42

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Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 3106991)
Most food that you eat in your life is probably prepared but yourself, your partner or your parents. Complaining about food in a country then generally means that you suck at cooking;)

I was referring specifically to Swiss-German restaurants. Did I really need to write that?

For cooking at home - it's got much easier in the last ten years to buy ingredients for cooking anything other than Swiss-German nursery food.

Merrylegs 07.10.2019 12:08

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The decision of where to retire may depend on the nationalities of the couple involved, which may not necessarily be the same. My husband, a most tolerant man, would never have agreed to settle in my "home" country.

evianers 07.10.2019 13:21

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Comparisons are often odious, so the saying goes, but having just returned to the UK after being away for 44 years {but only six years in CH}, retirement pensions are what has prompted us to leave.
We live just outside Swizzle - obviously! One week at our local supermarket, aubergines were on special offer at 99 Euro cents per kilo. Same week, Migros had the same - special offer on aubergines CHF4.99 per kilo. It is very often a question of simply not being able to afford the high prices on a pension. BTW, after six years, my CH pension is 162.-- per month.

slammer 07.10.2019 13:39

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Originally Posted by evianers (Post 3107038)
Comparisons are often odious, so the saying goes, but having just returned to the UK after being away for 44 years {but only six years in CH}, retirement pensions are what has prompted us to leave.
We live just outside Swizzle - obviously! One week at our local supermarket, aubergines were on special offer at 99 Euro cents per kilo. Same week, Migros had the same - special offer on aubergines CHF4.99 per kilo. It is very often a question of simply not being able to afford the high prices on a pension. BTW, after six years, my CH pension is 162.-- per month.


That is my greatest fear, poverty as a pensioner. The 162 CHuffs a month is in the ball-park, I will be getting less by way of being self employed for two years, so that sucks.

I am not too sure that I want to stay in German either, I see too many old folks rummaging in the bins collecting deposit bottles and cans. This last Fridayīs visit to the Oktoberfest got a dampner while waiting for a train to Munich. Among the Lederhosen and Dirndl clad people a old woman hobbling around on a Zimmerframe was digging in the bins for bottles.
Something in the system is broken and nobody knows how to fix it.

AbFab 07.10.2019 13:44

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Originally Posted by Has17 (Post 3106885)
Hi all,


I was wondering what is the mean reason to leave CH.


Everyone tells me IT is the best country to live but I see many people left CH after retirement.

I didn't know we had to give a reason before leaving...

Susie-Q 07.10.2019 16:23

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Originally Posted by slammer (Post 3107046)
That is my greatest fear, poverty as a pensioner. The 162 CHuffs a month is in the ball-park, I will be getting less by way of being self employed for two years, so that sucks.

A couple friends of mine who just retired know their money will run out when they are around 78, so they continue to smoke 2 packs a day and openly discuss a suicide pact in case something doesn't kill them prior.

I guess that's one way to look at it...but I hope that's not my future. I'll hop on a plane to Mexico and hope the cartel isn't still so powerful in 25 years.

:msnshock:

Landers 07.10.2019 18:10

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I don't understand why If you only work here for 6 years you should expect a better pension.


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