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Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

fyi I'm British on L permit which expires May.

I'm currently doing some research on the possibility of leaving Switzerland kind of 'now', complicated somewhat by the current situation. I've sent a few emails to various parties but wondered if anyone had any recent experience.

In Switzerland - I'd need to buy packing material (online should be ok still), hire a car, deregister etc. - then return with car a week or so later and fly back to UK. My flat contract can only be terminated in September/March so I'd be paying rent here too until Sept at the earliest - unless I can find a replacement tenant (possible at the moment?). An alternative to me moving my belongings would be to use a moving company that can perhaps also offer some temporary storage - are moving companies still operating?

I'd be heading to UK, I need to arrange a flat there, or in the short term perhaps a storage lockup and a hotel room - I think flat viewings are not possible at the moment which complicates things somewhat.

I'm currently stuck in limbo - I quit my last contract in Feb, expecting to have a month or so off, then get another. Getting a job right now in Switzerland is challenging so might be better to head back to UK. Certainly feels like it would be better to wait a month or two hoping things get back to normal before arranging this though but burning thru lots of savings (I suppose it's a good thing that I have that to fall back on!)
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

Are you eligible for unemployment benefits in Switzerland?
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

To be honest, I'd say forget it. Not going to happen for a few months yet. Moving companies may still be working, but I doubt you'd be able to hire a car and cross borders easily. You might get out of Switzerland to get to the UK, but bringing the car back? Border control is unlikely to see that as a good reason to let you through. And no guarantee of a flight back to the UK.

Getting a new tenant, maybe possible.

Most hotels are probably shut.
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Are you eligible for unemployment benefits in Switzerland?

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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

Ouch, hate to say it- but no way could you drive the car back into Switzerland at the moment. As you are paying rent, advice is to stay put, honestly- at least until the end of lock-down. As Medea says, finding accommodation, temporary, Hôtel, Hostel, or rental- will be practically impossible at the mo.

Or do you have family or friends you can stay with? (self isolating for 2 weeks). Which region are you heading for? Some regions will be easier to find accom than others- if London/region, forget it.
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Quit job ... been in Switzerland 5 years and always on L permit
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Doesn't mean you can't claim necessarily. Have you had unemployment insurance payments taken out of your salary?
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To check, see point 2. here: https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...edien/faq.html
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

On BBC news now- the Law/Police requesting RBnB to cancel all bookings unless proven key workers.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

Thanks for all responses ...


Hertz say you can hire a car and drive to / from the UK at the moment so might be an option still



I'll give it another 2 weeks and see if the situation is any clearer.
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Must say I am very very very surprised at Hertz's answer.
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Hertz say you can hire a car and drive to / from the UK at the moment so might be an option still



I'll give it another 2 weeks and see if the situation is any clearer.
Better check as well if you can drive through France or Germany? Both countries have ‘closed’ the borders
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

and you will have to self-isolate for 2 weeks when you arrive in UK, then when you are back in CH, then when you go back to UK ....
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

Give Luker Brothers a call. If they are still coming in, they might be able to take your stuff out. https://lukerbros.co.uk/contact/
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

I'm assuming you're single with no dependents.

These questions arise since you're concerned about burning up your savings.

1. About the goods you own: do you really need to take them all with you? The reason I ask is that sometimes the costs of packing materials, transport and possibly storage (for an unknown duration) at either end of the journey can add up to quite a high sum.

Unless you own high-end electronics or expensive antique or designer furniture, it might be worth considering reducing the overall volume so that you could actually travel with the remainder as check-in luggage. Of course, getting rid of the furniture might represent a certain emotional drain, and when once you're settled you'll need to buy replacements. I'm just suggesting that you do the calculation, including, of course, buying online, second-hand.

2. The next questions are about your flat.
2.1. Could you take in someone to share it with you, or to sublet it from you, from now till the September notice period? If yes, then your flat could double as storage for your possessions, i.e. you could rent it out furnished. By the time September arrives, you'll probably know what you want/need to do about getting those goods to your new place.

2.2.
Could you look for a tenant to take over from you, and just be shot of the flat? Rent and medical insurance are usually the two highest costs. If you moved into shared, rented accommodation, here or in the UK, you might save on that. If you join couchsurfing, you might be able to visit a number of people in a smallish area, and get by saving one month's rent. This, especially if you could offer some help in exchance. Couchsurfing is free, but there's a grey zone in which long-term couchsurfing is sometimes done with an exchange for services, or even rental.

Typically, the more rural you go, the lower the rental for paid rooms and the more likely a couchsurfer is to have space for the potential of a medium-term stay.
To look for a room
https://www.wgzimmer.ch/en/wgzimmer/...wc_language=en
https://flatfox.ch/de/suche/?east=8....36326095804694

To join couchsurfing
https://www.couchsurfing.com/

Once you've reduced your costs, you might have more room to think about what to do next.

3. What can you do, what do you like doing, what can you offer, in terms of finding employment?
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

Good questions/advice from Doro.
Also need to factor in your longer term plans:Title refers to going back only during the virus, so do you plan to come back?
Getting income (e.g. by sub-letting, remote working, benefits or at least having some 'irons in the fire' in UK) is a good place to start before working through the mechanics of a move.
Aside from money, if one of the reasons for heading back is isolation and loneliness, remember that won't significantly improve in UK for some time (unless you're going back close to friends/family). I find the mental battle of being alone is the biggest challenge of this whole thing, so take some strength in that you are not alone in being alone.
I looked at going back over Easter but dismissed the idea.
Got flights booked in mid-May and really have no idea if that will happen or not but that's an important trip for me so will look at the option of driving - who knows what the situation will be in 5 more weeks.
Your timing was unlucky so wishing you some better luck moving forward
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Re: Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus

According to the British tabloids, “many” of the British expats rescued from Wuhan are now regretting jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
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According to the British tabloids, “many” of the British expats rescued from Wuhan are now regretting jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
And the British tabloids are renowned for their non-sensationalist and accurate reporting!
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Sure - I was under the impression (from somewhere) that onwards travel was allowed

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I'm assuming you're single with no dependents.

These questions arise since you're concerned about burning up your savings.

1. About the goods you own: do you really need to take them all with you?


2. The next questions are about your flat.
2.1. Could you take in someone to share it with you, or to sublet it from ...

2.2.
Could you look for a tenant to take over from you,

3. What can you do, what do you like doing, what can you offer, in terms of finding employment?

Yup single no dependents.


In terms of savings, I'm probably good for a year ... but it's money I'd rather use for long term savings than just paying to live in a isolation! Cost of living is ~3.5k chf per month at the moment - edit: at least I've got this contingency, not everyone has!



1) goods - mostly concerned about computer equipment .. several 1000's CHF of gear
2.1) sublet wouldn't work - it's technically a 2 bed, but the second bedroom is only really suitable for a very young child.
2.2) was wondering about flat viewings etc and how that would work - also need to time it so I have somewhere to go to!
3) I'm a software developer, 25+years experience - never usually an issue finding work - hence I'm ok with taking a couple of months off every 2/3 years to keep on top of the technology

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Good questions/advice from Doro.
Also need to factor in your longer term plans:Title refers to going back only during the virus, so do you plan to come back?
Getting income (e.g. by sub-letting, remote working, benefits or at least having some 'irons in the fire' in UK) is a good place to start before working through the mechanics of a move.
Aside from money, if one of the reasons for heading back is isolation and loneliness, remember that won't significantly improve in UK for some time (unless you're going back close to friends/family). I find the mental battle of being alone is the biggest challenge of this whole thing, so take some strength in that you are not alone in being alone.
I looked at going back over Easter but dismissed the idea.
Got flights booked in mid-May and really have no idea if that will happen or not but that's an important trip for me so will look at the option of driving - who knows what the situation will be in 5 more weeks.
Your timing was unlucky so wishing you some better luck moving forward

I'm heading back for good now - been in Switzerland just over 5 years now - it's good but it's time to move on. I'd be heading home now anyway (I mean if an interesting job came up in Switzerland maybe I'd commit to another year or two).


I left work mid-Feb ... only spoken to 2-3 people face to face since then! Had a week away, then got busy with some online-learning, then lockdowns started happening etc... (lots of online chats mind)

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