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24.10.2020, 10:44
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| | Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ?
I am planning to rent a van (and possibly trailer) to move from Switzerland (near Lenzburg AG) to Denmark (still not decided exactly where, but in Jytland).
If possible it would be great to share this project with somebody from Denmark wanting to move to Switzerland. Both helping hands as well as doing some useful work with the van on the way back (otherwise I'll basically have to travel empty)  .
Planning is not clearly defined on my side yet. Anywhere from now to March 2021.
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24.10.2020, 15:55
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24.10.2020, 16:06
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ?
Holey Danneborg Batman, at that Price it would be cheaper, much cheaper to buy a banger van and do it yourself. Then flog the van and have enough over for at least two beers.
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24.10.2020, 16:17
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | Holey Danneborg Batman, at that Price it would be cheaper, much cheaper to buy a banger van and do it yourself. Then flog the van and have enough over for at least two beers. | | | | | There are beers in Danmark?
Oops, I was thinking of Sweden...Tak.
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24.10.2020, 18:40
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | I just asked for a quote estimation. Before I though it could be around 10'000 CHF.
Offer: between 17'000 CHF and 19'000 CHF     | | | | | At that price it may be cheaper or anyway easier to get a moving company to do it?
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24.10.2020, 20:01
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ?
I don’t know how much stuff you have. But when we moved over from North England, the cheapest way we could find was to self drive. We hired a van, drove here, then returned van to Gatwick and flew back to Switzerland. Can’t remember exactly but all in it probably cost about £1000.
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24.10.2020, 20:49
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | I just asked for a quote estimation. Before I though it could be around 10'000 CHF.
Offer: between 17'000 CHF and 19'000 CHF     | | | | | ~Three years ago OH had the contents of a 1-bed flat moved from Copenhagen to the Geneva area by a local danish removal company and paid just over two thousand euros. I think that was for 15 cubic metres.
He had briefly considered hiring a van and doing the job himself but quickly realised that it really wasn't a realistic option, costing a lot more than the removal service in hire charges and petrol, and would involve a lot of driving as he'd have to return the van!
Although prices will have inevitably gone up a bit since then I'd still suggest contacting a few danish companies based near your end location and ask them for a quote, it might even be possible to move your stuff in a shared load if you can be flexible on dates.
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24.10.2020, 21:31
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ?
We paid 11.000 CHF for a move from Copenhagen to CH two years ago. Swiss company with Czech subcontractor or workers. 4-person household, 50 m3, ca. 250 boxes/small items, incl. packing.
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25.10.2020, 05:12
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | At that price it may be cheaper or anyway easier to get a moving company to do it? | | | | | That's the price of a moving company.
If a friend with a C1 driving license can help me then it would be 2 trip and approx. 4000 CHF, plus a huge gift to him  .
If I have to do it myself with a trailer it would be 6 trips and approx. 8000 CHF. | Quote: | |  | | | ~Three years ago OH had the contents of a 1-bed flat moved from Copenhagen to the Geneva area by a local danish removal company and paid just over two thousand euros. I think that was for 15 cubic metres.
He had briefly considered hiring a van and doing the job himself but quickly realised that it really wasn't a realistic option, costing a lot more than the removal service in hire charges and petrol, and would involve a lot of driving as he'd have to return the van!
Although prices will have inevitably gone up a bit since then I'd still suggest contacting a few danish companies based near your end location and ask them for a quote, it might even be possible to move your stuff in a shared load if you can be flexible on dates. | | | | | That's what my previous company (that gave me the volume estimates) also reccomended: ask a big moving company that can schedule well, be flexible on dates, so that when they come get my stuff they also move somebody's else along the way  .
Problem is I don't know exactly where I will go, and with "Jutland" as destination nobody will even think to give me an offer (they all want exact address, street, floor, etc).
I can give an address just for reference but it's anyway going to be different.
I'm currently working on an EXCEL spreadsheet to estimate weight and volume. With only the big cabinets disassembled, it's sitting around 27 m3. Weight it's very grossely estimated at 3000+ kg. I only started yesterday so it's far from complete. It's missing all the boxes (200 boxes ~ 15-20 m3 extra).
I'm more weight limited than volume limited, even with the second cheapest option (trailer).
To get the required kilometers the second best would be sixt car rental, but at approx. 1200 CHF for 18m3 / 925kg usable (- me so approx. 840 kg usable) it doesn't make much sense (weight limited -> need anyway 5-6 trips).
The best would be if a Friend who has the C1 driving license can help. In that case, rental of truck by sixt Germany (Iveco Daily 7.2t Box+Taillift) is 1000 CHF / 3150kg usable / 36m3 with all kms (3000 km) included. Need only 2 trips with that.
I curse that I didn't do the BE driving license or even the C ... | Quote: | |  | | | We paid 11.000 CHF for a move from Copenhagen to CH two years ago. Swiss company with Czech subcontractor or workers. 4-person household, 50 m3, ca. 250 boxes/small items, incl. packing. | | | | | Thank you, that seems quite similar to what I have in terms of volume etc.
Except I plan on packing everything up myself and also disassemble the furniture.
At 50m3 did they come with 2 trucks or only 1 huge truck ? | Quote: | |  | | | Holey Danneborg Batman, at that Price it would be cheaper, much cheaper to buy a banger van and do it yourself. Then flog the van and have enough over for at least two beers. | | | | | Do you actually mean to "buy" or rather to "rent"?
Problem with a "bought" van for a reasonable price (5000 CHF for a 150'000km van ?), once you add insurance and the high likelyhood of having an issue along the way, in one of the 6 trips (6 trips x 2 x 1500 km = 18'000 km -> you also need to do maintenance / service / technical checks / ...), I'm not sure it's worth anymore  .
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25.10.2020, 08:49
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | Thank you, that seems quite similar to what I have in terms of volume etc.
Except I plan on packing everything up myself and also disassemble the furniture.
At 50m3 did they come with 2 trucks or only 1 huge truck ? | | | | | They had one truck and one cargo van.
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25.10.2020, 10:19
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ?
Trying to think out of the box (pun intended), what about looking at a Danish shipping company that works for a Danish manufacturing company from that area who ships things to CH. They might have an empty truck going back and would appreciate some €€ to cover the return costs. So rather than looking at a proper "moving company", you look at a transportation company from the area. Use your flexibility on timing to your advantage.
You would probably have to prepare all of the items on plastic wrapped pallets though.
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25.10.2020, 11:18
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Thinking out of the box, how about reducing the amount of stuff that you need to move, to absolute minimum? (Don't entirely agree with Marie Kondo's obsessive and expensive minimalism but she is onto something)
These guys can rent you just a truck with a driver, too. http://www.autotrans-global.cz/11128...dni-stehovani/ They operate internationally but based in CZ.
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25.10.2020, 11:36
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | From experience, my recommendation would be not to move to Denmark at all.
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25.10.2020, 12:02
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | From experience, my recommendation would be not to move to Denmark at all. | | | | | Is that thinking out or inside the box?
Why? What happened?
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25.10.2020, 12:09
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | Is that thinking out or inside the box? 
Why? What happened? | | | | | It is such an overrated country in terms of quality of life, and Copenhagen must be the most overrated city in the world. As expensive as Switzerland in many ways, yet quality and service of pretty much everything sucks. The short summers can be nice, but for most of the year it is a grey, dull and boring place.
We moved back to Switzerland, and never regretted it for one second.
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25.10.2020, 12:13
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | It is such an overrated country in terms of quality of life, and Copenhagen must be the most overrated city in the world. As expensive as Switzerland in many ways, yet quality and service of pretty much everything sucks. The short summers can be nice, but for most of the year it is a grey, dull and boring place.
We moved back to Switzerland, and never regretted it for one second. | | | | | The thing is, very few people do. But OP might have reasons, career, roots, heart..
I don't stick out there the way I look plus Scandinavia has this poetic and nostalgic charm for me, hipster hygge if you wish...but I never lived there, thanks for sharing, it's valuable. If I could, I'd go to sauna everyday and eat raw fish for breakfast, but that's as close as I get to North. And knitting sweaters. | This user would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post: | | 
25.10.2020, 12:35
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Hygge is the biggest marketing bullshit in the world. Like other nations had not figured out that a candles, wine and a cozy home are kinda cool.
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25.10.2020, 12:58
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | Hygge is the biggest marketing bullshit in the world. Like other nations had not figured out that a candles, wine and a cozy home are kinda cool. | | | | | But of course. And their marketing scheme works brilliantly. A bit of mermaid, a bit of hygge with a bit of imported turkey goulash.
I don't like candles. Wax only on school bags and jackets, pls.
Alpage here did their candles/wine/cozy (straw bed) a few hundred years back already.
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | But of course. And their marketing scheme works brilliantly. A bit of mermaid, a bit of hygge with a bit of imported turkey goulash.
I don't like candles. Wax only on school bags and jackets, pls.
Alpage here did their candles/wine/cozy (straw bed) a few hundred years back already. | | | | | I don't like candles or wine. An open fire, a smelly dog and a pint of real ale.
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| | Re: Moving to Denmark: anybody moving the other way :) ? | Quote: | |  | | | I don't like candles or wine. An open fire, a smelly dog and a pint of real ale. | | | | | Noooo, beer is not in my version of hygge. Gruyere! Smells like that dog  but true, I am a dog person. And Gruyere person.
I like Scandinavia for their attitude to music, really. Iceland, Finland, they take it hardcore seriously. And schooling.
I think OP has his reasons for uprooting to Jutland, I trust him. Swiss abroad, btw, adapt and adjust very well it always seemed to me. As opposed to a fair bit of expat whining we get here.  |
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