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How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Dear EF Members,

It has been a while since I last posted on the forum...

Now we are planning to leave Switzerland and spend some time with our families outside of Europe.

We would like to get our C-Permits "frozen" for 3 years.

According to the migration office there is no form we have to fill but send a letter with our request and reasoning.

Could you please help us to collect the main aspects influencing the decision?

So far we know, that it helps if we leave our pension money here.

Please help us to come up with further arguments!

Thanks a lot in advance & cheers,
Vix
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Old 13.01.2021, 16:58
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

As far as I understand, they are normally only frozen for reasons such as Swiss employer sending you to work abroad, or studying abroad. However maybe they will make an exception if you have super good reasons to spend 3 years abroad with your family
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Old 13.01.2021, 17:14
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Yes, we are definitely going for the exception...
That's why I started the thread to profit from the collective wisdom of the EF members...
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

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Yes, we are definitely going for the exception...
That's why I started the thread to profit from the collective wisdom of the EF members...
Hello Vixy, I am in the same situation and about to write the motivation letter but not sure which points to stress more. I am also not falling the usual categories to freeze the permit, but would love to try (it doesn't hurt!). Could you share how did it go in the end for you? Thanks
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Hello,
I believe there is a form which you can fill out, it does have a section for "other grounds" for the request.


Its called "Gesuch um Aufrechterhaltung der Niederlassungsbewilligung" which you can find online and print.


If Im wrong I apologise...



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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

There's some official explanation of the conditions under which a C-Permit can be frozen, here:

3.5.3.2.3 Aufrechterhaltung der Niederlassungsbewilligung während eines Auslandaufenthalts
of the

Weisungen und Erläuterungen of the SEM
I. Ausländerbereich
(Weisungen AIG), Updated version of 2021

in this pdf
file:///I:/Downloads/weisungen-aug-d%20(4).pdf


Hope that helps.
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Old 25.02.2021, 09:48
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

From my understanding, C-Permits can be suspended for up to 1 year, after than a maximum of 2x 6 months under special circumstances. 3 years is pushing the envelope.

I have read many anecdotal incidents of people being place back on B-Permits upon their return, especially if non-EU.
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Old 25.02.2021, 10:10
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Just become Swiss, problem solved!

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Old 25.02.2021, 10:44
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

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Get a mini-freezer and put the permit in there, in 3 years time just defreeze it

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Just become Swiss, problem solved!

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Yes, I am working on it, until then I won't be leaving Switzerland without a mini-freezer
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Old 25.02.2021, 11:36
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Correction: In KT Zürich it can be "frozen" for up to 4 years.
https://www.zh.ch/content/dam/zhweb/...ewilligung.pdf

Hopefully in 4 months I'll have Swiss citizenship, and then this would never be an issue for me
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Old 25.02.2021, 11:41
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

I remember reading from someone here, that it can’t be frozen past it’s validity date. Ie you might be able to freeze it for 4 years, but if your current permit has only 2 years on it, then that’s your limit. You have to be back before it expires.
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Old 26.02.2021, 10:08
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

AFAIK each Canton has a certain amount of flexibility on granting exceptions so it a case of pot luck really.
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

I have a colleague trying to do this soon. Could any of you let me know how you got on, and how complex it was?
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

As a C permit is a permanent resident status, I’m struggling to understand how a permanent resident can leave.
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Old 07.06.2021, 19:55
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

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As a C permit is a permanent resident status, I’m struggling to understand how a permanent resident can leave.
It means the center of life is still intended to be here but is temporarily elsewhere. Friends of mine have their permits on hold while overseas on a 3-year assignment for their Swiss company.
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There's some official explanation of the conditions under which a C-Permit can be frozen, here:

3.5.3.2.3 Aufrechterhaltung der Niederlassungsbewilligung während eines Auslandaufenthalts
of the

Weisungen und Erläuterungen of the SEM
I. Ausländerbereich
(Weisungen AIG), Updated version of 2021

in this pdf
file:///I:/Downloads/weisungen-aug-d%20(4).pdf


Hope that helps.
Not really. Do you have a proper link to the document or at least where to find it on SEM's website?
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Old 07.06.2021, 21:07
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I remember reading from someone here, that it can’t be frozen past it’s validity date. Ie you might be able to freeze it for 4 years, but if your current permit has only 2 years on it, then that’s your limit. You have to be back before it expires.
I posted this several times... because that’s how it was explained to me AFTER I froze the permit and stayed abroad within the years I have been told is ok but was over my permits expiry date. So I had to start from new and the C was gone.
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Nah, you can

and it's the reasons right there

https://www.pom.be.ch/pom/de/index/m...ltung_NB_d.pdf

"Die Niederlassungsbewilligung erlischt durch Abmeldung oder wenn sich die Ausländerinnen und Ausländer während sechs Monaten tatsächlich im Aus- land aufhalten. Stellen sie vor Ablauf dieser sechs Monate das Begehren, kann die Niederlassungsbewilligung während vier Jahren aufrechterhalten werden (Art. 61 Abs. 2 AuG)"

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The permanent residence permit expires upon deregistration or when the foreign nationals actually stay abroad for six months. If you submit the request before these six months have elapsed, the permanent residence permit can be maintained for four years (Art. 61 para. 2 AuG)

Permit expiration date should be adjusted to what the return dates are - it be Amt fur migration to be contacted for that - that should be formality

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Old 08.06.2021, 12:07
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Permit expiration date should be adjusted to what the return dates are - it be Amt fur migration to be contacted for that - that should be formality
Look: I did that. I informed the migrationsamt before with the official way to rest a c permit. The law you are citing is the correct one, but it is vague. In practice, at least in canton SZ where I lived, did the expiry date not change and the "you can live abroad for up to four years" actually mean "up to the expiry date of your c permit". Maybe they screwed my case up and covered their back by telling me that. But I am sharing some real life experience here...
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Old 08.06.2021, 23:46
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Re: How to get our C-Permits frozen?

Mine was frozen for 3 years. The original permit expired while I was abroad. I got a new C upon return valid for 5 years starting from the expiration date of the old permit. You would need to challenge SZ (actually Bern) with the formal appeal.
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