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Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Just wanted some advice and opinions on my situation.
i moved to Zurich from London 3 months ago with my girlfriend to a job with an bank. The first 2 months were hectic as I was bought in to launch a new app across the bank, I was doing 14hour days and most weekends, as well as trying to find a house, permit, insurance etc.

Things at work have finally settled down a bit, and everything else seemed to have worked out (got a place in Seedfeld! they even gave my gf a dependant B permit!!). But now I am getting the feeling I made a mistake, the job is okay but not quite what I expected, same for Zurich. I miss my friends and family as well as the vibe in London, have been feeling pretty depressed for the last week which is effecting my relationship.

My company in London are still looking for my replacement and I am sure I could go back to it. I am wondering if this is just me feeling home sick or deeper dissatisfaction with life in Zurich. I don’t want to be a quitter but moving back and basically taking up my old life and job seem so tempting.

Has anyone else gone through the same? or has even moved back so quick?.....I know its really a question I need to figure out myself but would like to know if anyone else was in a similar situation.
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Old 30.08.2009, 11:49
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

It takes quite a while to process all the changes, and to feel 'settled'...it took at least 6 weeks after getting here for me to feel like the 'holiday' was over, and another 3-4 months after that for the normal household routines to settle in..

I would suggest getting out and about - maybe take a weekend back in the UK to remind yourself why you left...or go and do something really beautiful and strenuous out in the mountains (hiking, bike riding, horseriding) - when you get back to your apartment, it will probably then feel more like 'home'.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Two questions... do you speak German, and what did you expect in Zurich?
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Two questions... do you speak German, and what did you expect in Zurich?
No german, but thats not been a problem, as I work a group of brits and social life is fine.

Zurich - Not as lively as I expected and I have seemed to have ticked off everything you can do here incl trips out to the mountians.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Zürich is a lot quieter than London and I can imagine you would miss the faster London scene if you really loved it.. and the job isn't want you expected - is it not challenging enough? Was it mis-represented to you?

Maybe the move here has just highlighted just how happy you were in London and being here isn't the right place for you. I would, however, do what swisspea has said and get home on weekends and see if it's where you want to be. Also 3 months isn't long, you need at least 6 to settle.. If you have been working really hard too, house hunting on top, then you're probably weary and tired of the grind, give yourself time to relax first - don't panic, you can go home whenever you want and just try to enjoy the time you are going to be here.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Zurich may seem quiet on the surface but underneath there is a real vibe, especially in terms of nightlife.

I see Zurich as the sort of place older people head to for the quieter life from a faster city. I guess it also takes time to get used to being somewhere new and acclimatising.

It sounds like you will always have opportunities in England.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Swisstree, you are spot on with the London thing, and once you dont have something you realise how much it means.


As for the job, it is challenging, but I am doing stuff I didn’t expect with a general lack of support, I have been told that things will improve and not to judge too early and I will start doing the stuff I was bought in for....but I have been around the job market long enough to know promise like that are always made.
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Swisstree, you are spot on with the London thing, and once you dont have something you realise how much it means.


As for the job, it is challenging, but I am doing stuff I didn’t expect with a general lack of support, I have been told that things will improve and not to judge too early and I will start doing the stuff I was bought in for....but I have been around the job market long enough to know promise like that are always made.
..not to mention that London can be a lot more progressive in terms of careers than here and with more variety of jobs too.. it's a tough one, but you know, go with your gut as London is a great place to live when you're young. Zürich is a great place too but it doesn't suit everyone.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Staying because you don't want to be a quitter is the wrong attitude. There is no point of staying here X years, go back to the UK, and then regret having wasted all those years of your life by forcing yourself to stay here because "you didn't want to be a quitter".

Having said that, here is something worth reading and thinking about:
http://www.ukcosa.org.uk/student/inf...hp#model_shock

Try to think at least at two levels: the big picture (i.e. will it be useful for me in the long run) and the small picture (will I enjoy living here? am I making too many sacrifices for the sake of the long run? will my stay support my personal growth? --whatever is important to you) and try to balance them.

In any case, I should mention that I believe that these days people often take the decision to move abroad too lightly and that I believe that not everyone is suited for a move abroad. (Note that this doesn't mean that this is your case.)

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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

I think Switzerland is a great place to grow old and retire. But if you are young, still on your quest to reach your potential or conquer the world, this place could frustrate your life plan.
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I'm young and I enjoy Zurich, and with double the salary of the UK and being placed bang in the centre of Europe I don't see how it can frustrate the life plan too much...
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

I think this is a quite recognized part of the expat process and the timing for it is spot on at 3 mos. It is all a result of dealing with all of the changes, etc. Now you have a review period where you wondered if you made a big mistake.

I went thru the same thing myself, and so I can relate. For me I think it had to do with the having to relearn almost everything - new work environment, new home environment, new country- almost simultaneously. Even though nothing in and of itself was a big issue, all the little things add up & eventually wear you down.

My advice is to enjoy the ride for a bit longer - the hard part is over. Take a nice holiday and visit family & friends - encourage them all to come visit you & take time for yourself.

Enjoy the journey & quite worrying about the destination - basically. Tell yourself you will reevaluate in 6 mos - if still unhappy then take action.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

Zurich > London. I don't miss London any more. In fact I find it too crowded, scary and full of human rats It's still the best city after Zurich though
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

I came here 24 years ago at the same time as another Brit who became a friend. She moaned and moaned that there was no social life in Lausanne (we were in our 20s). One day, I got fed up with her attitude, and told her that the government wasnt going to supply her social life, she had to do it herself. Meanwhile, I was having a fantastic time.

She left after a couple of years or so owing to permit problems. That was 20 years ago. She now lives in Singapore, and would do anything to come back here. In fact, it is her dream, and has been for many years.

What I am trying to say is, give it a chance before yo make your decision. It is never easy to move, as we have always put down roots in the country we have come from.
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Just wanted some advice and opinions on my situation.
I moved to Zurich from London 3 months ago with my girlfriend to a job with an bank.

Things at work have finally settled down a bit, and everything else seemed to have worked out (got a place in Seedfeld! they even gave my gf a dependant B permit!!).
I don't know your age and how long you have been with your girlfriend; but doesn't personal life slow down when you have a steady girl-friend?

I am currently living in both London and Switzerland; so out of interest, what are you missing in London; i.e. what does London offer you and your girl-friend, that Zurich doesn't? I am actually sick of London; the aggression, attitudes, impolitness and how fast everything has to get done but doesn't actually get done . Saying that, I haven't lived in Zurich, so can't judge that place.

I am also surprised that within three months "working 14 hour days and most weekends" that you have mananged to explore all of Switzerland.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

I found its difficult adjusting to a lower pace of life. The mountains eventually grab hold of you though. I would not say its for everyone though but you need to give it some time in order to make the right decision.
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I don't know your age and how long you have been with your girlfriend; but doesn't personal life slow down when you have a steady girl-friend?

I am currently living in both London and Switzerland; so out of interest, what are you missing in London; i.e. what does London offer you and your girl-friend, that Zurich doesn't? I am actually sick of London; the aggression, attitudes, impolitness and how fast everything has to get done but doesn't actually get done . Saying that, I haven't lived in Zurich, so can't judge that place.

I am also surprised that within three months "working 14 hour days and most weekends" that you have mananged to explore all of Switzerland.
He clearly has not explored all of Switzerland in 3 months, he's probably done what most people who move here who complain do... skim the surface and claim boredom.

If you take all the crap or scummy parts out of London you are left with something the size of Zurich anyway.
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Re: Thinking of moving back after 3 months

When you drive an Opel for a long time, changing to a Ferrari will require some time getting used to it.
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When you drive an Opel for a long time, changing to a Ferrari will require some time getting used to it.
I wouldn't mind getting used to the Ferrari until I get to the petrol pumps.
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No german, but thats not been a problem, as I work a group of brits and social life is fine.

Zurich - Not as lively as I expected and I have seemed to have ticked off everything you can do here incl trips out to the mountians.
London ? There are cheap tariffs on EasyJet so that you can make weekend excursions over to London and back

Ever been over a weekend to Geneva ? Quite different and almost in France ( + many Maghrebine restaurants)

Been over a weekend in Lugano / Milano ? So much of a difference !

Been over a weekend in the Alsace, with the cities of Colmar and Strassburg ?

Or to Munich over a weekend ?

Or take the train to Basel and go per EasyJet for a weekend to Paris

The advantage of Zurich is its proximity to other places, and so ought to be used.

And, do you swim ? the many "Badis" on the Lake of Zurich, Lac Léman (Lake of Geneva), or Bodensee (Lake of Constance) are always nice. Two favourites of me are the Badi to get to from the Paquis quarter of Geneva where you while swimming have the fountain in sight ! The other one is in Friedrichshafen just across from Romanshorn, an almost gigantic one with a good restaurant

and stop comparing London and Zurich. As London is a real world metropolis while Zurich and Geneva are just "assuming" regional metropolitan centres. Simply realize that Central London has as many inhabitants as Switzerland. So, compare Paddington-Bayswater with Zurich and South Kensington / Chelsea with Geneva
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