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American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

Hello! This is my first time here. I'm not in Switzerland yet, but I'm hoping to be in Geneva next fall. I know this may be unlikely, but are there any Americans out there who have successfully applied to a master's program at the Université de Genève? I'm currently in the process of rather unsuccessfully applying. Something that's really throwing me off is the insistence that I submit a list of my "university examinations" and ECTS credits, neither of which we have here. Whenever I try to email someone at the University, I either get no reply or am told to go to the university's website, the very place that told me to go to them for help. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

well have you checked out webster university? id leave that one for what it is if that is the service you are receiving...has very good accred.

another one is LSBF on the Geneva campus
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

I don't know if it can help you specifically with your problem. But see if you have this book in the library:
Maya Frost, The New Global Student.
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Old 29.12.2010, 10:31
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Hello! This is my first time here. I'm not in Switzerland yet, but I'm hoping to be in Geneva next fall. I know this may be unlikely, but are there any Americans out there who have successfully applied to a master's program at the Université de Genève? I'm currently in the process of rather unsuccessfully applying. Something that's really throwing me off is the insistence that I submit a list of my "university examinations" and ECTS credits, neither of which we have here. Whenever I try to email someone at the University, I either get no reply or am told to go to the university's website, the very place that told me to go to them for help. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
What they mean is your transcripts which show courses you have taken and grades you got. ECTS can be converted to US grades (here I give 6.0 to whom in US I would have given A/A+, 5.5 to B/A-, 5 to B, 4.5 to C+, 4 to C. 3.5 is fail).

Another reason they are asking for this is that courses here are quite specific (e.g. in sciences you can not take chinese history that will count towards a BSc). So they need to evaluate whether you have enough Bachelor level courses that are considered essential to qualify for the master's program you are applying.

So prepare a full transcript from all years. You will need to show originals before final admission.

Without providing copies of transcripts you will run in circles.
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

I used to work for the "International Office" at my university which was in charge of incoming students and I am rather sure your university will have a similar institution as well. These offices offer help for students whishing to study abroad for some time i.e. one or two semesters. I know that this study exchange is not what you're looking for but this office at your home university might be able to help you with providing the necessary information for the university in Geneva. They surely know the system and the "conversion" of the grades (as posted in the previous post) because the ECTS system it is used all over Europe. If you ask them nicely they might be able to help you. Also check the homepage of your university they surely have a section for incoming students / outgoing students where they explain these things.

Good luck with the process and have a good time in Geneva, it's a very nice university!
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

Wow! So much support in so little time! Thank you, everyone! I think whynhow is right. The way it is set up it makes the most sense that they're asking for my semester grades. I guess the root of my problem is that they translated the word as "examinations," which I took to mean "tests." I'll definitely be requesting my transcript.

@Anthony1406, I looked into Webster University and it seems like in their program you have to spend 9 weeks in 5 cities around the world, one of which is Geneva. Do you know if it's possible to study only on their Geneva campus for a full year?

@irish_temptation, I don't believe we have an international office, but we do have a sort of help with post-college life office. I'll set up an appointment with them.

@miniMia, I looked through The New Global Student on Amazon, and as far as I can tell it's mostly for high school graduates. Is this true, or should I pick up a copy? We don't have it in our library.

Again, thanks so much everyone! I really didn't expect to get so much help so quickly!
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

Bear in mind that ECTS (European Credit Transfer) does not equate to grades but rather number of hours studied, whereby 1 credit = 30 hours. A typical bachelor requires 180 credits, masters between 90 and 120. It is however irrelevant what grade (above passing grade of course) you got for the specific course - as long as the exam is passed the credits are acquired regardless of the grade.

That's why you're asked for the transcript - to ensure that you've gone through all the prerequisites (in terms of field of study AND hours) for your masters.

As a final note, Webster is for rich kids who do not pack what it takes to succeed at Uni Geneva. Its rep on the local job market is not exactly great.

If you give more specifics i'll be able to guide you more accurately with your application.
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@miniMia, I looked through The New Global Student on Amazon, and as far as I can tell it's mostly for high school graduates. Is this true, or should I pick up a copy? We don't have it in our library.
Sorry! Yes. It's for high school students who want to study Bachelors level "abroad". I spaced out that were looking to do a Masters program. It was late! lol.

I wouldn't buy it before have an in depth look at it to see if it can help you with specifics or if it's just general info. The author is from the US and moved down here to Buenos Aires with 4 teenagers. She wrote about her experience getting her kids in "international" universities. I don't know if it's a practical book or more of a "you should do this too" kinda book.
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Re: American applying to the Université de Genève in need of wisdom and guidance!

Went through all this with Uni Bern.

Had everything, but couldn't provide a transcript from way back in 1987. No records exist anymore from so far back, my unhelpful uni in the UK told me.
Major stumbling block.
Also, be prepared to take a mandatory language test (French for you, I guess) before you can start the course.
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Old 30.12.2010, 09:20
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As Shorrick explained ECTS credits and grades are separate things. Generally for Bachelors it is 60 ECTS points/year,(180 over 3 year course) with each point for about 25-30 hours of study/work load.

A 4 year US degree will normally have enough course work covered to make it equivalent for admission to masters program here in similar area. But transcripts are needed to make it clear.

Grades in ECTS are A to F. They will matter for you as a foreign student (All C or C+ in relevant courses is not looked upon favorably during selection process). Here is conversion for US system for grades

ECTS Swiss US

A 6 A/A+/4
B 5.5 A-/B+/3.5
C 5 B/3.0
D 4.5 C+/2.5
E 4.0 C/2.0
F 3.5 Fail

More details are here:

http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelo...y/doc48_en.htm

Check with your University's foreign office. They can sort it out for you and might provide any equivalency certificate etc that may be needed.

Language requirement varies, and for masters programs it can be either fully english or a mixture of english and french or total french, so check that out too.
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My Masters was in English Linguistics, but still required a German entrance test.
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@Anthony1406, I looked into Webster University and it seems like in their program you have to spend 9 weeks in 5 cities around the world, one of which is Geneva. Do you know if it's possible to study only on their Geneva campus for a full year?
Yes, you can go to Webster Full Time. Webster offers a number of campuses throughout the world as do most private universities. Webster has a campus in St Louis, International University has an alliance with a campus in Philadelphia, Geneva Business School (who I work for) has a campus in Vietnam, etc.

But if you want to stay in the Geneva Region, all of these schools would be happy to have you for the length of your studies!

www.gbs-ge.ch
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