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Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Hello,
I've been approachend about a permanent job in Switzerland that pays up to 100,000 CHF per year.
I'm currently living in the UK. I work as a contractor, and I@m set up as a limited company, earning abut 50,000 GBP per year.
Would I be trading up? Or down?
Maybe someone can give me some insights on cost of living in Switzerland compared to the UK.
Unfortunately I don't know where in Switzerland this job is. I'll learn more in the next coming days.
What I do know is the Salary, and that the company pays for health insurance. They'll also help with relocation costs.
I'd also like to learn if being a foreigner would be a problem. Something I read on another website. I'm actually from the USA, and I'm Mexican American.
I did live in Germany for about 3 years and 9 months and never experienced a problem (not like I've had in the past living in the UK).
When I lived in Germany (back in early 2000s) my salary (permanent) was 58k Euros and I lived in a two bedroom apartment (alone) paying about 450 Euros per month.
Any help is appreciated!
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Old 09.01.2011, 16:33
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Welcome to the forum.

Some threads that you might be keen to read up:

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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Which C/Kanton will you be living in. Taxes vary greatly. It also depends very much on where you will be living - as again rents can be VERY expensive (to impossible to find) in some areas, like Zurich or Geneva.
Although Switzerland is small, each area has its own laws, taxes and characteristics - just like the US. Where we live, 100.000 would be more than ample for a great lifestyle!!!

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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Been discussed before;
http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.p...in+Switzerland

Hope this helps your search
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

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Hello,
I've been approachend about a permanent job in Switzerland that pays up to 100,000 CHF per year.
I'm currently living in the UK. I work as a contractor, and I@m set up as a limited company, earning abut 50,000 GBP per year.
Would I be trading up? Or down?
Maybe someone can give me some insights on cost of living in Switzerland compared to the UK.
Unfortunately I don't know where in Switzerland this job is. I'll learn more in the next coming days.
What I do know is the Salary, and that the company pays for health insurance. They'll also help with relocation costs.
I'd also like to learn if being a foreigner would be a problem. Something I read on another website. I'm actually from the USA, and I'm Mexican American.
I did live in Germany for about 3 years and 9 months and never experienced a problem (not like I've had in the past living in the UK).
When I lived in Germany (back in early 2000s) my salary (permanent) was 58k Euros and I lived in a two bedroom apartment (alone) paying about 450 Euros per month.
Any help is appreciated!
Welcome to the forum.
Short answer is: Yes you can live on 100 kCHF/yr - how well depends of course on how many you are to live on that salary and your life style.
Taxes can vary largely from canton to canton, so finding out where you'll be based is a key factor - also for rent cost and insurance costs.
For more in depth answer - there is a number of threads here on EF that is similar to your question if you surf around a bit.

To estimate your specific needs though the best is to go to sites like:
www.homegate.ch - for examples on living costs
www.coopathome.ch - for finding out what your favourite food and household items cost.
www.comparis.ch - for a lot of other stuff like insurances etc.
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Congrats!

Is this the first official "salary enough?" request of the year?
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

you'll be fine. The breadline has been set at 68'000 so you'll be able to fill your sandwiches
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100,000 CHF per year.
More than enough unless you are royalty. Now go in front of the mirror and say "yes I can" like this-

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Update: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Hi all, and thanks for your replies.

I just found out that the company offering the job there is Leica Geosystems, and it is located in Heerbrugg, St. Gallen.
Anyone know of Heerbrugg, or of the company? What Heerbrugg is like? The people there?

Thanks again for your help!

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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Heerbrugg, SG is a very small town.
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I just found out that the company offering the job there is Leica Geosystems, and it is located in Heerbrugg, St. Gallen.
Anyone know of Heerbrugg, or of the company? What Heerbrugg is like? The people there?
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Hi all, and thanks for your replies.

I just found out that the company offering the job there is Leica Geosystems, and it is located in Heerbrugg, St. Gallen.
Anyone know of Heerbrugg, or of the company? What Heerbrugg is like? The people there?

Thanks again for your help!

Miguel
Heerbrugg is located in the eastern region, Canton St. Gallen, of Switzerland. It is counted as one of the 47 prefectures of Switzerland and commonly referred to as the capital of "Oschtschwiiz" with the government of St. Gallen and the Emperor of St. Gallen residing in Schüürli Ward. Heerbrugg is a place where the urgent rhythms of consumer culture collide with the quieter moments that linger from older traditions. It's hectic madness leavened by the Zennest of calms. With a population of over 12 million, or about 10 percent of Switzerland's population, it is by far the country's most populous and most densely populated prefecture. Heerbrugg remains a glittering example of the 'miracle' of post-WWII Switzerland.
Heerbrugg suburb hasn't been completely trounced: in the shadows of skyscrapers, streets are still lined with tiny specialist shops and bustling restaurants open late into the night; and you can still sense a bygone era in an ancient wooden house, a Swiss inn, an old lady in a "tracht" sweeping the pavement outside her home with a straw broom. Being the nation's center of politics, business, finance, education, mass media, and pop culture, Heerbrugg has the country's highest concentration of corporate headquarters, financial institutions, universities and colleges, museums, theaters, and shopping and entertainment establishments.
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

And you'll be earning more than most of the locals there.
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Leica is a great firm to work for, do not pay as much in the larger cities but are a specialist firm and if you are into geomatics then its like charlie and the chocolate factory for techies. Heerbrugg is a sleepy town but in reality is only over an hour by car to Zurich. Unfortunately though it is about 2 hours by train so good idea to have a car living there.

Your salary will go miles in Heerbrugg.
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Must....resist..urge..to..slap..Newbie !



Take it from a guy who is here since may 2010 and can't find a job, YES it is enough,what ever they throw at you will do fine.
(Take it, but don't take it personal,except for the slapping,that is serious)

So to help you fast forward :

Is 100.000 Chf enough : Yes
Do i need to Pay Billag : Yes
Do you need health and household insurance : Yes
Do i need a Permit : Yes


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Take it from a guy who is here since may 2010 and can't find a job, YES it is enough,what ever they throw at you will do fine.
Sounds to me like you're just frustrated that you can't find a job (understandably) and you're now taking it out by ranting at strangers (not quite so cool).

On the other hand, I agree with you that the OP perhaps should have searched this forum for the similar threads posted above, and if the OP wants to know more about the town (beyond what prof_taratonga has already explained) then they should have already looked up more information about Heerbrugg, about the area and of course Switzerland itself.
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Sounds to me like you're just frustrated that you can't find a job (understandably) and you're now taking it out by ranting at strangers (not quite so cool).

On the other hand, I agree with you that the OP perhaps should have searched this forum for the similar threads posted above, and if the OP wants to know more about the town (beyond what prof_taratonga has already explained) then they should have already looked up more information about Heerbrugg, about the area and of course Switzerland itself.
My point exactly,people come from abroad,swipe yet another job away from people that are here and qualified todo so and then brag with how much they will earn.

Good for them but no need to rub our noses in it,keep something to yourself also.

So far for "talking about your wages or money earned in switzerland is a nono".

I gave out as we see posts like this every week while i and many other can not get a hold of a job.

Frustrated? Yes but i was nice,didnt groan or dis rep him as we all have an opinion.

Sadly enough op got me on a bad day.
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Hello,
I've been approachend about a permanent job in Switzerland that pays up to 100,000 CHF per year.
I'm currently living in the UK. I work as a contractor, and I@m set up as a limited company, earning abut 50,000 GBP per year.
Would I be trading up? Or down?
Maybe someone can give me some insights on cost of living in Switzerland compared to the UK.
Unfortunately I don't know where in Switzerland this job is. I'll learn more in the next coming days.
What I do know is the Salary, and that the company pays for health insurance. They'll also help with relocation costs.
I'd also like to learn if being a foreigner would be a problem. Something I read on another website. I'm actually from the USA, and I'm Mexican American.
I did live in Germany for about 3 years and 9 months and never experienced a problem (not like I've had in the past living in the UK).
When I lived in Germany (back in early 2000s) my salary (permanent) was 58k Euros and I lived in a two bedroom apartment (alone) paying about 450 Euros per month.
Any help is appreciated!
you'd be slightly up. i always used the 2chf to 1gbp exchange rate as a measure when considering a move from the uk to switzerland, and the pound has gone down since then.
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Re: Is 100,000 CHF enough to live on in Switzerland?

Hi all,
Thanks again for your comments and information.
Yes, I have done searches on Heerbrugg, but I like to get information from people that live there, or have lived there, so I get a more personal vew of a place.
As for taking a job away from people living in an area, well, I have not been offered the job, yet, still early stages. Though, if a company is going outside an area to find people, then it is obvious that qualified people are not easy to find within that area. I onced asked my hiring manager, when I was offered a job in Bad Saltzdetfurth Germany, why did they not find someone locally, or even within Germany (I was living in Liverpool at the time). I was told that there were no experienced design engineers with my skills and background in the area, and those that they were able to find were not interested in moving to Bad Saltzdetfurth.
I've reasearched the company, but, again, getting personal information from people about a company is helpful. I've worked for companies that looked good on their website only to find out that they were crap.
Right now there seems to be an explosion of technical jobs openning up in Europe. Here in the UK I've been contacted about 5 contract mechanical engineering jobs in the last week. This tells me that there is a lot going on. Search Jobsite.co.uk and you'll see for yourself.
So, if your out of work, you might want to consider relocating, at least for a while. Or, maybe for a long run. If you don't have the skills, maybe consider getting training, or going back to college/university.
So far in this recession I've been lucky to keep working, even fortunate to change contract jobs for more money. This only tells me if you are willing to move and take on challenges outside your comfort zone, then you'll stay in employment.
Anyway, thanks a lot all for your replies and very helpful information.
The next step is to get through the interviews and decide if Heerbrugg will be my last and final stop in my working career (making Heerbrugg my final home before I die).
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