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Barbeques

Does anybody use a barbeque (propane-fired) over there? How common are they? We've got a very decent stainless-steel behemoth that we want to bring with us when we move to CH within 2 months.
I don't, however, want to be faced with having to
  • get an operators license in order to grill some steaks
  • pay a barbecue tax to the barbecue police
  • being told that I can't use it
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Old 27.01.2011, 18:04
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Re: Barbeques

The gas system for BBQs in CH is different from the one used in Canada. Specifically - the fitting, hose and possibly the burner unit would need to be changed.

That raises the question is it possible to find the CH parts needed? The cost (it will not be cheap)? The hassle factor?

And, if you are talking about a stainless steel BBQ, you are probably talking about a bigger one. You probably will not have the space here for it. Especially on a small balcony.

Suggest you sell the CDN one and buy a CH model here. That is what I did.

The typical propane tank here is 5Kg of gas (weights about 12+kg when full). NOT the same style as you would have in Canada.

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Good luck (this is from someone who BBQs 365 days a year if I feel the urge).
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Old 27.01.2011, 18:05
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Re: Barbeques

I have a decent sized Weber grill over here. It is quite nice.

We grill with coal. I am not sure, if people grill with gas or not.

You might want to check with the place where you will live. Some
apartments do not allow grilling on the porch. Fortunately, our
apartment allows us to do this.
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Old 27.01.2011, 18:21
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Re: Barbeques

I've had gas grills for over 20 years, and a charcoal/wood smoker as well for the past 8.

No problems, but I live on the top floor, and am in a small town in Ticino, so it may depend where you live.

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Re: Barbeques

Thanks for the responses thus far. Yeah, it's a big 'un. I had a feeling that perhaps the tank fittings were different. Does anybody have any thread specs? I'll try to search for some appropriate adaptors.
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Old 27.01.2011, 18:39
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Thanks for the responses thus far. Yeah, it's a big 'un. I had a feeling that perhaps the tank fittings were different. Does anybody have any thread specs? I'll try to search for some appropriate adaptors.
Don't know off hand, but they look the same to me.

Anyway, you can get them in a lot of places, worst case just replace the fitting that attaches to the bottle, no big deal.

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Old 27.01.2011, 18:56
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Re: Barbeques

I purchased a Weber Genesis Silver C that was brought over from the US by another expat The owner had it adapted here. Not sure of the cost, but a similar grill over here runs about $1200-$2000 so if on a relo package, I say bring it along. You can try checking with these guys, thoug english is not their strong suit .http://www.selzam.ch/xml_1/internet/...ppe&gruppe=101
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Re: Barbeques

Bring it over finding fittings here won't be a problem, being able to afford filling it with meat like home my be. The price of meat here almost shocks you into becoming a vegetarian at the start!!
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Re: Barbeques

We bought our gas-fired Australian Beefeater BBQ over with us. You need to ensure that bbq's are allowed on your balcony. We were advised that we were allowed to use them, but if one neighbour complained then the entire complex would not be allowed to use them.
We bought an adapter from these people and it all works just fine. http://shop.ebay.com/gasfachfrau/m.h...&_trksid=p3686
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Re: Barbeques

Thanks for all of the great advice. Relo package indeed . The Big Monster is coming over with us!

Finding adapters isn't going to be as easy as it seems. I'm sure that there are loads of ISO fittings over there but, I have to connect an ISO bottle to my ANSI hose. Thanks for the link, jsherk. Since my German is still quite rusty, I'm going to try to find something on this side of the Pond first.

Yeah, I heard that meat is expensive. I've also been told that the quality is much better than what one would find in a typical grocery store in NA. Is this true?
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Old 27.01.2011, 22:17
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Thanks for all of the great advice. Relo package indeed . The Big Monster is coming over with us!

Finding adapters isn't going to be as easy as it seems. I'm sure that there are loads of ISO fittings over there but, I have to connect an ISO bottle to my ANSI hose. Thanks for the link, jsherk. Since my German is still quite rusty, I'm going to try to find something on this side of the Pond first.

Yeah, I heard that meat is expensive. I've also been told that the quality is much better than what one would find in a typical grocery store in NA. Is this true?
Boat shops are a good place to find adapters!
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We bought our gas-fired Australian Beefeater BBQ over with us. You need to ensure that bbq's are allowed on your balcony. We were advised that we were allowed to use them, but if one neighbour complained then the entire complex would not be allowed to use them.
We bought an adapter from these people and it all works just fine. http://shop.ebay.com/gasfachfrau/m.h...&_trksid=p3686

I had a neighbour complain to the Gemeinde about me using a bbq on my balcony but I never heard anything from the Gemeinde.
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Old 27.01.2011, 22:22
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Finding adapters isn't going to be as easy as it seems.
It is if you do it after the regulator, as then you are dealing with low pressure and can just cut the hoses and splice them with a hose connector and some clamps.

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Re: Barbeques

you can find the adapters on the german ebay for around 40 euro. I am surprised however that you dont need to take some sort of course where you wll need to pass an exam to obtain the grillers permit.
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It is if you do it after the regulator, as then you are dealing with low pressure and can just cut the hoses and splice them with a hose connector and some clamps.
Ahh, but of course! However, the cost of an ISO hose (which I'll have to butcher), a couple of clamps and a nipple is likely the same cost (if not more) than an adapter. And, since I've been known to leave the tank valve "open" when killing the fire with the burner knobs , I should probably not mess with the integrity of a potentially pressurised line. Nevertheless, great suggestion!
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Re: Barbeques

We just arrived from Canada and decided to bring a new propane BBQ with us, and leave the natural gas one back home. Easy enough to get propane at local gas station (Esso). After looking around on internet, finally went to Coop Home and Hobby and found 2 parts that could replace the hose a regulatory assembly that came standard on my north american BBQ. What you need to buy is two pieces, both made by Campingaz:
1) Druckregler 30 mb (15 CHF) and 2) Spezialschlauch fur gasgrills hose- 80 CM for 30-5- mb (20 CHF). Everything fits, and was cooking later that day!
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Size could be an issue. You should rethink bringing it.

I got rid of my large gas grill before coming over from the US. I now own an electric BBQ.
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Old 28.08.2011, 17:06
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you can find the adapters on the german ebay for around 40 euro. I am surprised however that you dont need to take some sort of course where you wll need to pass an exam to obtain the grillers permit.
The courses you need, "How to land proper after your airborne",special if you cut the hose and try to fix it yourself
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Old 28.08.2011, 17:09
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Re: Barbeques

You already read about it: it's NO problem adapting it here. It's quite affordable as well (especially compared to the price of grills here).

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I've also been told that the quality is much better than what one would find in a typical grocery store in NA. Is this true?
No, it's not. Meat in CH is VERY lean, which means Swiss-taste, but not American (or as in my case South-American) taste. But it is what it is...it's not the end of the world. You'll appreciate the variety though: some 10 different types of sausages available every day, filled with cheese, wrapped in bacon, beef, lamb, pork, chops, ostrich, horse, regular, marinated...you can do a different BBQ every weekend for months and enjoy a new taste every time.
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