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Old 08.02.2011, 11:01
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Now, please hear me out on this, even if it sounds a tad weird...

Twice in the last week, i've been on Buses/Trams that have had to stop and let everyone off, because of an accident further along the route.

In both instances, it seems that some poor unfortunate got clobbered by an oncoming tram, and more than likely snuffed it. However, i don't know for a fact what happened.

I looked in 20 Minuten the morning after both incidents and found nothing, despite me thinking someone getting injured or dying after hitting a tram would be newsworthy.

Is there a blanket ban on reporting this? Is there a more local Züri-centric news source where i can satisfy my curiosity as to what actually happened both these times?
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Old 08.02.2011, 11:34
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

I don't know about Zurich but in Basel it usually gets reported in the local rag a day or so later depending on if they are waiting to see if the person survives or not. ( 20min isn't really local, here we have the Baslerstab for that).
I know its terrible but on foggy mornings this sort of thing isn't uncommon. Although lately it seems to be a trend around here not to get the car off the track on time more than a hit. ( and those don't get reported unless there is spectacular damage).
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Old 08.02.2011, 11:36
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Naw.. you just have to look in the right place

http://www.polizeibericht.ch/ger_cat_232/Zuerich.html
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Old 08.02.2011, 11:44
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

I've seen tram accidents involving deaths reported, but can't recall any that only involved injury. Maybe injuries are simply not newsworthy enough.

While it's easy to think that anybody who gets clobbered by an oncoming tram is likely to die, you've got to remember that the trams generally don't move that much faster than 30Kph (maybe 40 in some places) and that relatively slow speed may well result in far fewer deaths than you would expect.
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Old 08.02.2011, 11:46
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

I have been swiped by a tram (just my arm/shoulder/side) and it hurt like a m&%£& f&£$r. But I don't think people would usually die especially if they were healthy to start with and didn't go under.
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Old 08.02.2011, 11:52
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I have been swiped by a tram (just my arm/shoulder/side) and it hurt like a m&%£& f&£$r. But I don't think people would usually die especially if they were healthy to start with and didn't go under.
Was it in the newspaper?

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I'm surprised Basel didn't have more tram related accidents as when you walk out of the sbb, you are directly onto the track, all of them being car's, bikes,busses and pedestrians.

Trams, and other traffic come from all over the place so you realy need to be careful there.. not the safest point in town.
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Old 08.02.2011, 12:08
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I'm surprised Basel didn't have more tram related accidents as when you walk out of the sbb, you are directly onto the track, all of them being car's, bikes,busses and pedestrians.

Trams, and other traffic come from all over the place so you realy need to be careful there.. not the safest point in town.
It's their way of filtering out the weak.
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Old 08.02.2011, 12:10
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

Fatal tram accidents cannot be reported in a newspaper with very limited content space such as 20 Minuten as it would deprive citizens of their right to know what Linda Fäh is currently wearing and whether Jörg Kachelmann has found a new job. Journalistic priorities lead to tough decisions.
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I'm surprised Basel didn't have more tram related accidents as when you walk out of the sbb, you are directly onto the track, all of them being car's, bikes,busses and pedestrians.

Trams, and other traffic come from all over the place so you realy need to be careful there.. not the safest point in town.
You haven't tried to cross at Aeschenplatz then.. now that is a REAL test of courage for the unseasoned ( irrespective of being a tram, bus, car, biker or pedestrian!)

But seriously, I go through the SBB Centralbahnplatz everyday with my ebike and can only say that some of those pedestrians deserve it. I use the bus and taxi lane and NOBODY LOOKS!!!! I'm amazed I haven't been knocked over yet ( happened to another cyclist yesterday)
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Old 08.02.2011, 12:18
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It's their way of filtering out the weak.
Filter not needed. All Baslers are weak.
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Old 08.02.2011, 12:23
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

They don't want to stir panic and spoil our days with tragic content unless it's something on a huge scale. Remember Switzerland must sustain impeccable record of safety and coziness. Do you think Pretoria news reports every single incident involving deaths - there are too many and the paper would have been morbid one full of obituaries.
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Filter not needed. All Baslers are weak.
You never been through then, Mr "I got tapped by a tram and it hurt".



Next you'll be telling us this is what the tram looked like after hitting you...



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Old 08.02.2011, 13:16
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You never been through then, Mr "I got tapped by a tram and it hurt".



Next you'll be telling us this is what the tram looked like after hitting you...



No. The tram just sort of...stopped.
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Old 08.02.2011, 13:32
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No. The tram just sort of...stopped.
...Economisto is Hancock?!
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Re: Morbid Curiosity

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Now, please hear me out on this, even if it sounds a tad weird...

Twice in the last week, i've been on Buses/Trams that have had to stop and let everyone off, because of an accident further along the route.

In both instances, it seems that some poor unfortunate got clobbered by an oncoming tram, and more than likely snuffed it. However, i don't know for a fact what happened.

I looked in 20 Minuten the morning after both incidents and found nothing, despite me thinking someone getting injured or dying after hitting a tram would be newsworthy.

Is there a blanket ban on reporting this? Is there a more local Züri-centric news source where i can satisfy my curiosity as to what actually happened both these times?
How do you know they hit a person and not just a vehicle? Did the tram driver announce it was a pedestrian?
There are plenty of Aargau plate cars/tractors in Zurich you know? :-)
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A friend who came later said there was a tent erected around where the accident happened, i can only presume to cover a cadaver.
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