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Helping Hand... [legal situation concerning casual helpers]

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What is the legal situation involved if we wanted to get a few students to help move our boxes/furniture and perhaps help with painting a few rooms?

We wouldn't want to get into trouble with the law just for having some simple house help.

Has anyone done this here in CH, and was sticking a few postcards at the Uni noticeboard enough to get the help required? And what is the going rate???
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Hi everyone,
What is the legal situation involved if we wanted to get a few students to help move our boxes/furniture and perhaps help with painting a few rooms?

We wouldn't want to get into trouble with the law just for having some simple house help.

Has anyone done this here in CH, and was sticking a few postcards at the Uni noticeboard enough to get the help required? And what is the going rate???
Appreciate any feedback.

Yodeler.
Your only risk is if they have an accident, then you have no insurance.
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Pay them in beer and pizza?
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My understanding was that everyone in Switzerland has personal insurance anyway. Would that not suffice?

Also would getting the person to sign a waiver form (stating that they are healthy and fit for moving normal household furniture/boxes etc.) be legal?
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My understanding was that everyone in Switzerland has personal insurance anyway. Would that not suffice?

Also would getting the person to sign a waiver form (stating that they are healthy and fit for moving normal household furniture/boxes etc.) be legal?
Nope that don`t work. The personal insurance isnt professional insurance otherwise business owners wouldnt need their own accident insurance. Also as a private person, you should only be employing registered companies who have their own insurance hence the system.
You would need them to sign a waiver saying they had their own accident insurance in case of any accident, then at least you have something to hold up when the mud hits the ventilator.
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Re: Helping Hand... [legal situation concerning casual helpers]

We asked some kids I support in English to help paint fences last year. I asked if they would be covered by our RC Insurance (responsabilité civile- in case of any 3rd party injured on our property), and my friend at the Mobillière Insurance said 'yes, no prob'. Just ask your Insurers. Are you rentors or owners?
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Hi everyone,
What is the legal situation involved if we wanted to get a few students to help move our boxes/furniture and perhaps help with painting a few rooms?

We wouldn't want to get into trouble with the law just for having some simple house help.

Has anyone done this here in CH, and was sticking a few postcards at the Uni noticeboard enough to get the help required? And what is the going rate???
Appreciate any feedback.

Yodeler.
From my limited experiences here, it would seem you can accept help from your friends .... but not employ anyone ... without insurance for them.

I once helped a friend out (cleaning her restaurant a couple times when she had staff problems) and she stated quite clearly that I was doing it as her friend, should I have an accident on the premises. I got free coffee, and lunches .... and a bit of "trink geld" handed over surepticiously a few days later.

The biggest fear of "employing" persons to do odd jobs is the insurance .... they could end up crippled .... and you end up with no pension money, no house, etc.

Stupid situation, but that`s how it is.

You could maybe ask for help, with food and drinks (coffee/water/cokes) .... and then a few bucks at end of day for their "trink geld" ......? NOT official "employment?

As an aside, maybe of interest and related .... I do voluntary work at the local school, and am informed that I`m covered by their insurance the moment I leave my property to attend the school (slipping on ice, falling off my bicycle, getting hit by an auto, falling down stairs, etc etc). And I don`t even get paid for doing this bit of "work".
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