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Old 30.04.2011, 14:46
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Gardeners: Latin name for Lohrbeerbusch & Planting for privacy

Two questions for keen gardeners:

1. The Lohrbeerbush (not the one you eat, the bushy poisonous one that's used for hedges all over this great country)... does anyone know the latin or english name for it? I have the Portugese variety and find it so toxic there's hardly a flowering annual or perennial to survive in front of it. And has been a challenge for me to research as I don't have the correct name methinks.

2. I'd like to find a plant which can be potted and give enough foliage (flowering or not) to give privacy in a 80-100cm space. Something hardy would be nice but it doesn't have to evergreen. Cannot be growing on fence as fence is not mine. Any suggestions / experience?

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Old 30.04.2011, 16:20
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Kirschloorbeer - prunus laurocerasus
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Old 30.04.2011, 16:38
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Re: Gardeners: Latin name for Lohrbeerbusch & Planting for privacy

It's a type of Laurel bush (English) - but there are a few different types.
Latin name is Prunus laurocerasus.

http://www.instahedge.co.uk/index.ph...aurel-hedging/

An alternative could be privet or box.

Privet (liguster in DE, I think) is good, but I think it prefers to have its roots in the ground.
Box (buxus in DE), are good, and are easily available in pots, but aren't cheap, if mature ones are wanted. Small plants are much cheaper, but need to time to grow sufficiently to give a screen.

Failing that a few smallish evergreen fir/spruce type trees can also be grown in big pots or long planter boxes.
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Re: Gardeners: Latin name for Lohrbeerbusch & Planting for privacy

Thanks for that. For some silly reason I'd completely blanked on the fact they're actually called KIRSCH Lorbeer! And I can't believe I didn't make the connection to the English Laurel. Ah well.

I see that I have the 'Schipkaensis Macropylla' variety. The rootings shoot out quite quickly and their toxins spread into the ground around the mother plant. Anything which is not hardy (like new seedlings or annuals) is having a hard time establishing growth. Even weeds haven't dared to grow under these bushes.
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Privet (liguster in DE, I think) is good, but I think it prefers to have its roots in the ground.
Box (buxus in DE), are good, and are easily available in pots, but aren't cheap, if mature ones are wanted. Small plants are much cheaper, but need to time to grow sufficiently to give a screen.

Failing that a few smallish evergreen fir/spruce type trees can also be grown in big pots or long planter boxes.
Cheers. I'll go for the spruce type for now, or perhaps a bamboo. Buxus just takes too long to bush out.
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Cheers. I'll go for the spruce type for now, or perhaps a bamboo. Buxus just takes too long to bush out.
Bamboo in pots are difficult to take care of, and need special attention over the winter, as I found out the hard way. They also drop leaves all the time so if you have neighbours, you are going to have a problem with falling leaves. They also need a great deal of water. Definitely not recommended.

Thuja (evergreen) are probably the easiest to manage in my opinion.
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Bamboo in pots are difficult to take care of, and need special attention over the winter, as I found out the hard way. They also drop leaves all the time so if you have neighbours, you are going to have a problem with falling leaves. They also need a great deal of water. Definitely not recommended.

Thuja (evergreen) are probably the easiest to manage in my opinion.
Had one last year in a pot. Ended up over-watering actually and got nasty yellow flies (argh!). Have decided now to forgo the pot, dig into ground, and get the Bamboo which doesn't shoot out roots. As for the leaf dropping, boy do I know the mess!
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Had one last year in a pot. Ended up over-watering actually and got nasty yellow flies (argh!). Have decided now to forgo the pot, dig into ground, and get the Bamboo which doesn't shoot out roots. As for the leaf dropping, boy do I know the mess!
You can always intersperse the natural bamboo with a bamboo roll fence, for immediate privacy, until the natural plants are established and have grown/thickened.



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I have seen these also available made from artificial (plastic) "bamboo", for longer-life and less deterioration over time.
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Had one last year in a pot. Ended up over-watering actually and got nasty yellow flies (argh!). Have decided now to forgo the pot, dig into ground, and get the Bamboo which doesn't shoot out roots. As for the leaf dropping, boy do I know the mess!
Is there a type of bamboo which doesn't shoot out roots?

I ask because I remember a family friend (from way back when) complaining about the bamboo he'd planted as a screen because the roots followed the water pipes so he would wind up with a mass of bamboo near his wall spigot if he weren't particularly attentive. I'd thought this was pretty much how all bamboo grows, like some lawn grasses with long shooting roots which would send up new plants as it "moved" along.
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You can always intersperse the natural bamboo with a bamboo roll fence, for immediate privacy, until the natural plants are established and have grown/thickened.



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I have seen these also available made from artificial (plastic) "bamboo", for longer-life and less deterioration over time.
Yep, like the idea! And it'll keep my cat from jumping over to the neighbours'.
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Is there a type of bamboo which doesn't shoot out roots?

I ask because I remember a family friend (from way back when) complaining about the bamboo he'd planted as a screen because the roots followed the water pipes so he would wind up with a mass of bamboo near his wall spigot if he weren't particularly attentive. I'd thought this was pretty much how all bamboo grows, like some lawn grasses with long shooting roots which would send up new plants as it "moved" along.
I'm all too familliar with that scenario. In our last garden the shoots went so deep and in every direction that they shot out into the adjoining house's pond . Ok, that took nearly 10 years though. Still.

Here's the limited rooting variety:

http://www.bambuswald.de/index.php?p...mart&Itemid=64

Also it does help significantly to dig them deep and surround the plant with a special synthetic tube/ring which forces the roots to go deeper before shooting outwards.
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