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Re: Mountain bike sold on English Forum - etc. ..... QUESTIONS?

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The important bit if you'd missed it is, regardless of the method; the bike is in the hands of the original owner.
I strongly disagree.

The situation is not back to "normal" or to the "starting point" because:
1) the owner suffered stress
2) the seller had reputation damaged, legitimately or not
3) the thief got free money
4) the thief is free with no problem
5) the police is not used to investigate
6) the seller allegedly lost money
7) the thief can start again anytime.

Well if you don't like vigilante, let's help the "seller" and the "owner" report that to the police. That way they can still do a lot to track the thief.

I know sanctions for bike stolen are ridiculous and it's lot of hassle. But they can still obtain damage, and make the thief some minor issue legally.

As you said the vigilante method is not legal*

*but strongly recommended to avoid overcharging the legal system
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Old 06.05.2011, 10:46
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But, of course you have to take the loss.

Someone you don't know comes to you and oofer you a bike because he sees you cleaning your bike.

You buy his bike while not knowing anything about him. You never saw the guy, he comes out from nowhere with a: Pssst, I have this bike, do you want it, very good price! And stupidly, you buy it thinking: Great, I'll do a 20 chf on it by selling it on EF.

And you got caught on it since the owner saw your add (How small the world can be, it always amaze me...) How someone would ever expect that?

And you want to point out how good guy you are for taking the loss on you?
Which is in any case handling stolen goods
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Re: Mountain bike sold on English Forum - etc. ..... QUESTIONS?

I have had three bikes stolen in not more then 6 years, we have had 2 forced entries into our apt. and quite some jewellery and cash stolen i could go on and on ive wasted hours sitting in police stations filling out reports to no gain, i really prefer being down by 130CHf then sitting in that room for hours and knowing theres nothing thy will do.

I am and will def keep a look out for that guy and when i do see him i REALLY dont wanna be in his shoes and will make sure he wont or wont be able to do it again...
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Re: Mountain bike sold on English Forum - etc. ..... QUESTIONS?

I have some nice gold coins for sale, going cheap, just gotta wait for the paint to dry

meet my behind the station, bring usd, euro , gbp or chf (its ok I'll swap them with ef members to clean em )
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I'm really getting the impression that ukal123 acted a little too promptly and appropriately to the situation. Not enough drama. What exactly is going to give the guilt-givers satisfaction??
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I'm really getting the impression that ukal123 acted a little too promptly and appropriately to the situation. Not enough drama. What exactly is going to give the guilt-givers satisfaction??

or he was caught red handed and is trying to cover his ass

hmmm I wonder which it is??
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Ukal123....

2 green blobs and it's not even noon.... Brilliantly played!
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Re: Mountain bike sold on English Forum - etc. ..... QUESTIONS?

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I have had three bikes stolen in not more then 6 years, we have had 2 forced entries into our apt. and quite some jewellery and cash stolen i could go on and on ive wasted hours sitting in police stations filling out reports to no gain, i really prefer being down by 130CHf then sitting in that room for hours and knowing theres nothing thy will do.

I am and will def keep a look out for that guy and when i do see him i REALLY dont wanna be in his shoes and will make sure he wont or wont be able to do it again...
My grandmother used to say, "deb" she called me deb, "deb, don't bullsh1t a bullsh1tter"
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Really?

My grandmother used to say, "deb" she called me deb, "deb, don't bullsh1t a bullsh1tter"
I loved me Nan.
You obviously haven't experienced UK justice in action...
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I have had three bikes stolen in not more then 6 years,
In that case, did it not cross your mind that the bike that you were being offered for sale by a complete stranger at a 'decent' price was hot???!!!
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I have had three bikes stolen in not more then 6 years, we have had 2 forced entries into our apt. and quite some jewellery and cash stolen i could go on and on ive wasted hours sitting in police stations filling out reports to no gain, ....
..and still you don't ask for proof of ownership/purchase or even know the identity of the person you are buying things from
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I have had three bikes stolen in not more then 6 years, we have had 2 forced entries into our apt. and quite some jewellery and cash stolen i could go on and on ive wasted hours sitting in police stations filling out reports to no gain, i really prefer being down by 130CHf then sitting in that room for hours and knowing theres nothing thy will do.

I am and will def keep a look out for that guy and when i do see him i REALLY dont wanna be in his shoes and will make sure he wont or wont be able to do it again...
Sorry but you should help the "owner" with the report, not report that you have been scammed!!!!
Because I'm affraid the police will probably only laugh at you for having been so gullible. (anyway you have no proof, nothing to backup your story toward the police).

So you've been allegedly scammed- fair enough. Unfortunately without proof, nothing you screwed yourself there.

But in your good efforts you could help the owner with the report: you saw the thief, etc...


Police can not do much but with:
1) report- official complain
2) finger prints taken on the frame
3) description, etc...

it add a little to that guy and he might get caught. (= put the away and also getting some money back and reduce further thiefs).


Great for the vigilante option +1
Kick the guy for me aswell.¨
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I'm really getting the impression that ukal123 acted a little too promptly and appropriately to the situation. Not enough drama. What exactly is going to give the guilt-givers satisfaction??
A beheading probably...
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or he was caught red handed and is trying to cover his ass

hmmm I wonder which it is??
I wonder too. I'll never know. But he made right, and is sticking around to partake in his crucifixion without anything other than speculation as evidence, so point in his favor in my book.
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Sorry but you should help the "owner" with the report, not report that you have been scammed!!!!
Because I'm affraid the police will probably only laugh at you for having been so gullible. (anyway you have no proof, nothing to backup your story toward the police).

So you've been allegedly scammed- fair enough. Unfortunately without proof, nothing you screwed yourself there.

But in your good efforts you could help the owner with the report: you saw the thief, etc...


Police can not do much but with:
1) report- official complain
2) finger prints taken on the frame
3) description, etc...

it add a little to that guy and he might get caught. (= put the away and also getting some money back and reduce further thiefs).


Great for the vigilante option +1
Kick the guy for me aswell.¨
Maybe this is why he doesn't want the police to fill a report...
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I wonder too. I'll never know. But he made right, and is sticking around to partake in his crucifixion without anything other than speculation as evidence, so point in his favor in my book.
Fair dues, but he has probably still got a stash of stock to unload
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Maybe this is why he doesn't want the police to fill a report...
WTF of course he touched the frame he bought it? Anyone can touch a frame, it could have been parked up and in the way of someones bike. The most valauble information is the description of the person that sold it to ukal.

I agree with what was said before both the owner and ukal should hot it down to the plod station. You never know it might be a known bike thief.

At least you might get to look at some mugshots.
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I wonder too. I'll never know. But he made right, and is sticking around to partake in his crucifixion without anything other than speculation as evidence, so point in his favor in my book.

I would support your conclusion 100% if the op wasn't also trying to sell multiple high value items, with ridiculous stories attached.

as others have pointed out, who buys a bike from a total stranger in the street on the cheep? the op knew it was stolen, or the story is a lie either way the op handled stolen goods knowingly.
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And WTF are 2 people groaning everyone who doesn't have the same opinion as them, ffs, you believe the op, the rest of us don't, get over it.
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I gave him the blob for having the balls to put up with you lot.
I gave him a greenie too,

I have no evidence of the whole story so would never be able to judge the truth behind the episode, especially by someone's ''selling'' posts/profile

Assuming for a second that he is the one who stole the bike

For me Someone who made an effort to return back the bike deserves a simple thanks and does not deserve to be accused /red blobbed.

Giving him Red blobs would only mean> How fool of someone,to accept the fact that it was a stolen bike, how fool of someone to come back to the forum and give it back! He could have sold it somewhere else, blocked his id, to avoid the whole embarrassment/accusation!
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