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Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep cool :)

Hi all - so job I'm taking in Zurich is in an office which has no A/C. Guess thats common enough in CH. Know I know to the locals or people from warmer places in the world 25-30C weather is bearable, but to an Irish person (And I'm warm blooded and never feel the cold at home!) this involves basicalyl spending a lot of the day sweating, and drinking water

I need to look professional (is smart casual so slacks, work shoes and a shirt which can be short sleeve). So can't rock boardies

What I know is desk Fan! Also that a short sleeve shirt seems to be the best. But looking for tips on:
- Shoes - any ideas on this? I just have run of the mill leather shoes
- Socks - might be dumb question,but I just waer cotten, anything better?
- Trousers - this may be the key!

Know, before you all try and find some high ground from which to pelt me with rocks I know this sounds liek a dumb question. But I'm looking for tips from anyone else who's been in this position and learned the hard way. There's only so much of me sweating all over my desk the locals in the office will take before I get ostracised

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Old 26.05.2011, 14:47
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

I wear shorts in summer, as do most of my co-workers (and some have already started wearing them).

Also, many wear sandals and no socks. Year round.

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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Open ALL the windows and doors first thing in the morning when it's cool and let the cool air in. When the sun starts to heat things up again, close them all and pull down the blinds on the windows in direct sunlight.

Invest in a desk fan (do NOT point it at Swiss people, they go nuts if they are in a draught).

Wear natural fibres (cotton shirts, etc).

Drink plenty of from-the-fridge water.

Don't sweat it.
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Old 26.05.2011, 14:50
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

I don't think it's a dumb question and I hope some folk can give you good advice about clothing.

If it is any comfort, I think most of us get used to it in time. A 'hot' day in April or May often feels much hotter than the same temperature in July or August. One thing I had to learn to do is simply to move more slowly when it is hot. Cooling the wrists helps a bit too.

At the office, make sure blinds or whatever are closed before the sun gets onto them. If you get to work early enough, open up as many windows/doors as you can, to cool the place down before the sun gets too warm. If you have plants, mist spray them.

Good luck - I remember some guys in Ireland telling us about swimming in the sea... well, it's warmer than it was yesterday...
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Hi - cant wear shorts etc. Strict work dress code.

About other items:
- Open in morning - ok
- Close blinds - open plan office - so might not be able to control this. We don't get glare direct into this room though during day
- Desk fan - yes, and draught I know I found this out! Very odd. Small poll of people here, but 5 of the 6 swiss people in the room give out about the smallest air flow at all. WEIRD!
- Natural fibers - understood, will check this out
- Water from fridge, yeah do this, but could even do it more. Make sure extra cold

Thanks, keep them coming!
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Hi - cant wear shorts etc. Strict work dress code.

About other items:
- Open in morning - ok
- Close blinds - open plan office - so might not be able to control this. We don't get glare direct into this room though during day
- Desk fan - yes, and draught I know I found this out! Very odd. Small poll of people here, but 5 of the 6 swiss people in the room give out about the smallest air flow at all. WEIRD!
- Natural fibers - understood, will check this out
- Water from fridge, yeah do this, but could even do it more. Make sure extra cold

Thanks, keep them coming!
I've installed an AC unit in my office (it is currently for sale)...but I might have to fire it up pretty soon again.
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Old 26.05.2011, 15:02
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Does your office have shower facilities? A cool shower at lunchtime and a fresh shirt can make the afternoon a lot more bearable. I used to work in an office that was essentially a glass box and this was the only way I survived the last hot summer here (2003?)

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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Actually, people in hot regions drink luke warm mint tea, works for me as well. If you drink super ice cold stuff, your body will be in overdrive to work with the temp differences, you might be cool for a sec and even hotter right after. I would drink ton of warm mint tea and wash my face every now and then with luke warm water and let it dry, naturally.

I would suggest a nice pair of linen pants, but they crease. Linen is very cool, for shirts as well, it looks great.



They might crease a lot, so before you sit down, pull up your pants a tad over your knees. On the other hand, despite the creasing, the fabric is a lot lighter than your usual work pants.
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I would suggest a nice pair of linen pants, but they crease. Linen is very cool, for shirts as well, it looks great.
+1, I like linen as well, but it definitely isn't wash and wear, it needs a good ironing.

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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Ok ..
1) AC Unit - open plan office, so anything that generates too much cold / draft / noise would prob be a prob. Desk fan is prob at limit

2) Shower - yes there is one in the building, good thinking!!!

3) Wash face - yep, like above will add it to list (mind you will end up never at my desk now )

4 - Linen - yeah I think being Irish I have a vision of Linen as something from old Mafia movies but that's just me. Defo need to look into that option. I think my shoes & trousers are prob the warmest bit. Short sleeve cotton shirt seems ok!

Any tips on the shoes guys? anyone know of any type of shoe that looks professional and ok with trousers, but isn't leather or has breath-ability?
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I know hey are a bit too casual and loafy, but if you necessarily don't have to be super super slick, than I would go for one of these snazzy babies. Just for the hottest 2 months. They would look great with appropriate pants, light shirt, etc.
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I know hey are a bit too casual and loafy, but if you necessarily don't have to be super super slick, than I would go for one of these snazzy babies. Just for the hottest 2 months. They would look great with appropriate pants, light shirt, etc.
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Any tips on the shoes guys? anyone know of any type of shoe that looks professional and ok with trousers, but isn't leather or has breath-ability?
Geox does some breathable, lightweight shoes which could be teamed with office attire.

Many people take off their outdoor shoes and loaf around in Birkenstock-type slippers whilst in the office, too.
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Oh, you so conservative. Cmon, the white ones? Oooooh. I love them.
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

well all I can say is hahahha! you NEVER get used to it! Im seriously even starting to miss the rain sometimes
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Actually, people in hot regions drink luke warm mint tea, works for me as well. If you drink super ice cold stuff, your body will be in overdrive to work with the temp differences, you might be cool for a sec and even hotter right after. I would drink ton of warm mint tea and wash my face every now and then with luke warm water and let it dry, naturally.
I second this. Make a pot of mint tea in the morning, leave it out on the counter, drink it when it gets cool. You wouldn't believe how refreshing this is... and you can drink as much of it as you want without that slightly queasy feeling you'd get after downing too much ice cold stuff.
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

Leather shoes do breathe but Geox are better still. Maybe with discreet velcro fastening and a generous fit... sitting at a desk and heat above your normal tolerance level can really swell those feet.
The worst of the heat in Switzerland is the humidity, especially if the heat comes in early summer-all the lakes, forests, etc.
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I think a smart pair of leather sandles would be acceptable, with matching coloured socks of course!

Don't forget that dark clothing doesn't show the sweaty under arm patches as much as lighter colours.

You need a small desk fan for your face.

You also need a small cool air blower under your desk on the floor. These are not true air conditioners, but you fill them with water and the air is blown across the wet membranes. Large branches of Dipl.Ing.Fust and Interdiscount should have them in stock. http://www.fust.ch/de/nav/shop/onlin...5Bpointer%5D=2

I had to teach in Singapore for 6 weeks without A/C. I found a large fan with a stand that dried my shirts well, and changed my shirt every hour!
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Re: Help! Irish person not used to the heat, needs advice on work clothes to keep coo

I actually find having a heater or fan under the desk work more effectively! anyone find the same?
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