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I will just fade away slowly and let things evolve as they will.
Bugger that!

Who's going to be the voice of reason if you 'fade away slowly'?
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I have to say, I don't get the EF mentality sometimes. Most of the responses here are telling the OP he is wrong or questioning why he would want to meet a certain type of person.

Whether asking about brown sugar, free beer, or where to meet a certain type of person... more than half of the responses to simple questions seem to focus on why the OP would ever want what he/she wants...

Seems there is an active brigade of posters, with their fingers hovering over their keyboards, who can't wait to assail the latest newby...

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PS - Once a year, I make my plea to back off on newbies and help lead them to the "promised land" of EF enlightenment... that place where you wake up one day and understand ALL of the unspoken rules of the EF. And especially, how to not let that group of frequent posters intimidate you with their "oh so witty" banter...

Oh well, since I no longer live in Der Schweiz, I guess I shouldn't let it bother me anymore. I will just fade away slowly and let things evolve as they will.
Very true. I also don't get that brain masturb... on the EF.

It's like you want to buy a top marque car.

OP: I want to get me BMW with golden rims and ivory door handles (if they were). Any suggestions?

REPLY 1: First of all why would you spend so much dough on such expensive car?

REPLY 2: You won't find many folks knowledgable about such cars in this modest community.

REPLY 3: If you have enough money to buy such car you should have also enough brains yourselves to find relevant info about.

... and so on and so forth.

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I'm a little sceptical that anyone who is really so enthusiastic about another culture truly understands it. It's like the Europeans who go on holiday to Africa when all most of them want is to come to Europe. The grass is always greener.

depends on what you are looking for I think.
say you want money and high standard of life. Switzerland is perfect I guess
I want convenience so the USA would be perfect.

same with the people.
Even though Americans might be more superficial (speaking general here) in regards to when you meet them, at least they made an effort to meet them and perhaps good friendships form. With the Swiss people, much less to none imo.

So for what I am looking for the grass really is greener there. yes I might make less, but I can go to target at 2 am if I so feel like it
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

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The chap wants to meet Americans in a social setting. The easiest way to get on the nerves of anyone, from any country, with whom you are hanging out and enjoying a pint, is to start talking about the politics of his country.

It's simple courtesy, really. Nothing negative about showing a bit of common sense.
Just want to reinforce this point. I made the mistake of bringing up Belgian politics with a young Flemish guy - I was just curious about the rift between the Flemish and the Walloons. I came off as rude and prying, and I sensed his discomfort. That night needed a lot of wine and discussion of more neutral subjects to repair that damage.
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Hey, I'm an American living in the Congo of Switzerland. There are thousands of rednecks here, but they are all Swiss. In fact, I just spoke to the newly elected President of our Genossenschaft and asked him to be fair and objective about an issue but got a real "redneck" and "hillbilly" remark back. I feel a huge scandal brewing on the homefront and hope it won't make the papers.

My OP friend, I'm a bit confused as to what types of Americans you are looking for. The ones in Switzerland are not all rednecked, not all country-loving and certainly not all open-minded. I really enjoy country music but am a stout Democratic who would vote Republican if so desired.

I don't own country boots or a hat (wish I did) but do own a Werktagstracht. When I hear "Steiner Chilbi", I get homesick for America. Ten years ago, I criticized GW Bush during my visit in the US and was called an anti-American.

I don't think you'll find many Americans here who fit your bill, but you'll find plenty of country-music, western-toting Swiss who live the way of life you have described. In fact, I've been to country music festivals here that were more Western than some in America.

Thanks for loving my home country. There are so many Swiss/Europeans/Internationals who can't stand it. Depending on their reasons, I sympathize or not.

PS: Having met DBreakfast, I could almost label him "a redneck" if it weren't for his overpowering Britishness.
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So what's a redneck? Is it Jeff Foxworthy, the American comic? Is it a guy who wants off the grid and live in a cabin? Is it the dirt poor person who drove 4 hours to come to a university hospital in North Carolina because he has no money or health care for his family?

I do think what the OP is looking for are sort of "regular" Americans, whatever they are. They are in Switzerland, although I think more of them are likely to stay put in the US. I think a lot of them might have settled here with a Swiss spouse.

There is in the autumn, somewhere near Gstaad, I think (which is a sort of strange locale to me), a country music festival. I think it's in August or September, and lots of people go to it - from Switzerland, the US, etc, etc. I've never been - too many people, and I can't abide most country music.

My family is very middle class (hope they're still middle class, anyway) - a mix of conservative and liberal - Catholics, Protestants and even a few Jews thanks to my father. Lots of allegiance to family - in fact 90 % live within 100 miles of the mother ship (Western PA), and pretty much the rest (except for me) live within 500 miles - not such a big deal in the US, but huge here.

My brother in law is a smart guy who loves to hunt, would love to live off the grid, and who really believes in independence. He leans a lot toward the right and belongs to the NRA. He'd hate all the shared spaces and society of the city. I don't agree with him, but he's a good guy. i have lots of relatives like this - some of them like country music, some not. Electricians, computer programmers, school teachers, small business owners, etc. Their families are really important to them, and they don't want to go away from them - not too far. Politically, they're all over the place. A lot of them have twangy, western PA accents (not southern, but definitely rural). I'd never call them rednecks though. Maybe someone else might.

So I think I know what you're looking for, but I don't know that you want to call them rednecks, neocons or whatever, just regular guys. I think you might find the same guys in Switzerland, but I think they're mostly Swiss. If you meet Americans, maybe avoiding politics is a good way to start. I won't talk politics with a lot of Americans, truth be told.

I recently reconnected with a friend from high school on facebook and told him about another friend who was also there. He ignored her because of the politics of where she worked. Everyone can do what they wish, but sometimes you miss out by judging people based on politics (presumed or real). Sometimes not, of course.

Whew, didn't mean to make that so long, especially since I didn't really answer your question, did I. Well, look up the country music festival in Gstaad.

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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

I am American too, living about 20 min outside of Zurich. However, I am no into country music, can't stand the deep South (lived in Georgia for 4 of the worst years of my life), fled back to California as soon as I could. Then fate decided to drop me in Zurich with no return ticket. Truth be told, I have lost all desire to live in the USA again, especially with the events of recent years. Nice place to visit, but being on vacation in the USA vs. living and working there are 2 completely different things. Most Europeans who vacation there have seen more of the US than most Americans ever will...no one gets enough vacation time.
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

If you really want to meet Americans in Zurich, try the American Club http://www.acz.ch/
I used to go there at the beginning, only to realize I didn't click at all with non-Californians.
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Edit: Dear OP, so sorry the youtube I posted can only be seen on youtube directly, what a pity, t'was a lovely old sample from way back when, over the pond

I do hope your American dream will come true
why not ? it does for some

Just a sample of the perfect accent

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I do hope your American dream will come true
why not ? it does for some

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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Alright people, why don't we just simmer down. Imagine if it were a person wanting to meet Brits instead...he'd have already 3 greens. I must say, I don't like the way the OP writes, nor do I care much for rednecks...but I think we misunderstood him (or he was just over enthusiastic explaining whom he would like to meet). I assume, that he would like to meet some Americans who share his passion of country music (no flag waving, cross burning, marrying your cousins, none of that)...and it would be even better, if they were from the South.


ps: Eco, I've spent a good portion of my life in Kentucky...The Appalachians are a moutain range and therefore, people who tend to live there are known as hillbillies not rednecks...there is a fine difference. If you watch Deliverance (with Burt Reynolds) you'll understand.
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Tis almost impossible to define the lot of us.

We're are our own stereotypes, so I can only imagine how a European person would perceive us.

My best advice to the OP would be to travel there and take it all in

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My best advice to the OP would be to travel there and take it all in
I'll second that.

Far from being the "big English-speaking country that I've seen a million times on the telly and at the pictures", the United States of America (or at least the six states I passed through) turned out to be the most alien place I've ever visited.

It's very disconcerting, as you don't really expect it to be quite as foreign as it actually is.
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

So to stay badly on the topic I investigated the issue a litle bit with the following findings:

1) Definition:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

2) Some of their past time activities:

http://www.redneckyachtclubfl.com/

http://www.redneckengineering.com/index.php

http://redneckheaven.com/events.html

3) and finally to keep OP busy for the rest of afternoon.

http://www.ahajokes.com/redneck_jokes.html

http://www.thejokeyard.com/redneck_jokes/index.html

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/page...eck_jokes.html
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

I'm a liberal Democrat and a redneck. As an American who was raised on a ranch in Texas, I can claim the title "redneck" with some authenticity. And, yes, I drive a pickup truck in the US, listen to country and roots music and marched in the streets of Dallas against Ronald Reagan. There's a big difference between redneck and neo con. Not all rednecks are neo cons and I'd be willing to bet only a minority of neo cons are rednecks, as their leaders come from privileged backgrounds (which offers some insight, but I'll leave the politics aside). Lee Greenwood's song actually isn't neo con . . . unlike some other songs that endorsed the fiasco in Iraq. His song is simply patriotic. He doesn't endorse imperialism or colonialism. Our willingness to fight for freedom has a lot to do with the failure of Hitler and others of his kind in WWII. The thing I love about Europe is tolerance for the points of view of others . . . something I wish we had more of in the US. My vote for best song would be "Let it be" . . .
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Ok, lots of replies... So let me clear up things:

Im not some crazy swiss guy that talking about something he never experienced. I've been several times in the US, my brother lives since 20 years in America and i know exactly what im talking about. I know that America is a country with a lot of diversity and different options, as i said, i know that i will not me ultra-rednecks here, because they would never move out of their country... Maybe i shouldn't use the term redneck though... But for my as someone that makes Country-Music the term is used without any bad background... :-)

I just wrote it so specifically because i want to meet Americans that like their Homeland, because it wouldn't make sense for me if not. I want to meet Americans who i can share the news, country-music, and other "positive" things about America.
I don't want to meet people where i have to defend my views and talk about politics the whole time... I've met some Americans here and they moved to Switzerland because they thought the US sucks balls, and im not interested in such relationshisps...

Right now there is one big country festival every year in Zurich (for about 38 days) where i get to meet cool Americans, but where are they hiding when the festival is over?? :-)

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Sorry my keyboard is making strange things ;-).... me out of meet and options out of opinions... Hope you still understand it... :-)
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Re: Where are the Americans in Switzerland?

Given your love for the USA have you considered marrying a gal from there and the rest will come in full package
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Given your love for the USA have you considered marrying a gal from there and the rest will come in full package
Of course i have considered that... But im always only for a few weeks in the US, so its kind of hard to get to know some ladies from over there... But i thought maybe through this forum i can get to know some from the US or some that live in CH. At least i got to know some Redneck-Haters here, haha
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Of course i have considered that... But im always only for a few weeks in the US, so its kind of hard to get to know some ladies from over there... But i thought maybe through this forum i can get to know some from the US or some that live in CH. At least i got to know some Redneck-Haters here, haha
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