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... and the rest of us.

Except we choose to do it by proxy and pretend to ignore the consequences of our choices.
But we are talking semantics here, aren't we?
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That is just your take on sustenance. Your civilised way of enjoying sustenance. You try to separate yourself from your animal origins by sipping tea with milk in the name of civilisation. A human effort to rise above your animal origins, which is nothing more than moral cherry picking.
You what, mate?

Never mind. I'll leave you to your moral contortionism before you threaten to sue me again.

Tschuss!
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Re: Butterflies

My "insect ethics"

Repel:


instead of:

Kill:



P.S. Same applies to some EF's.
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But we are talking semantics here, aren't we?
No, he is just telling as it is- the facts- Punkt Schluss. Thanks DB. We are so remote from the reality at times- for all sorts of reasons- mostly that we don't want to know. I live surrounded by farms, so the reality is just there in front of my eyes- not easy at times I can tell you.

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You what, mate?

Never mind. I'll leave you to your moral contortionism before you threaten to sue me again.

Tschuss!
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Re: Butterflies

This has to be a wind up!!
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Old 10.06.2011, 00:19
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P.S. Same applies to some EF's.
Tut, so passive aggressive you two!

I personally prefer this:
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Old 10.06.2011, 00:20
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Hi! I´m moving to Lugano. I want to know if there´s restrictions on collecting butterflyies in Ticino canton? is it okay to collect them there?

Thank you very much for the information, it´s really important for me.
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This has to be a wind up!!
Btw: Where's TheAndy and answer to his original question?
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Old 10.06.2011, 00:26
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punkt schluss.
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Old 10.06.2011, 00:29
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No! For example:



Butterflies aren't bugs! I have to (choose to) listen to my entomologist boyfriend tell me things about insects, so now I'm making you listen - well, read. Bugs (punaises in French, the order is something with ptera in it I'm pretty sure). From our nature walks, I remember something about the position of their wings, something about their antennae and their probiscus as being important defining charecteristics.

Do you feel educated? HMMM?

Of course butterflies are insects (bugs) like bees and flies.
They're all arthropodes and insects.
The difference is the order.
Butterflies are lepidoptera while bees are hymenoptera and flies are diptera and the "punaises" you mention are heteroptera.

Insects have a head, thorax and abdomen, with or without wings (1 or 2 pairs).
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Point fini - end off.
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Btw: Where's TheAndy and answer to his original question?
He buggered off



Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana.
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Old 10.06.2011, 00:33
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Re: Butterflies

Ah yes, but true bugs (heteroptera as you quite rightly pointed out) are punaises. I was being pedantic and arguing for no reason, as it's EF.

Bug can be used to describe insects in general (as was being done), or more pricisely to describe the heteroptera order. See? bickering for no reason because I'm tired and grumpy. Hrmph.
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Re: Butterflies

And I just love butterflies (live ones eh !) and haven't a clue about other species in the animal kingdom.

Does justify a nice get-together is Neuch one day.
It's lovely in summer
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Yeah, I actually love our nature walks. Maybe when he's finished his experiment I can persuade him to do a guided walk!
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Our wild flower meadow at the back of our house is absolutely full of butterflies and bees at the moment - we should organise a Romandie EF meet up soon. Plenty of space here for a gathering- but NO butterflies to be caught please.
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He buggered off



Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana.
Effect of Judge Judy forum???

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Our wild flower meadow at the back of our house is absolutely full of butterflies and bees at the moment - we should organise a Romandie EF meet up soon. Plenty of space here for a gathering- but NO butterflies to be caught please.
Take pics of the butterflies and don't batter them. Live and let die (in a natural way).
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Re: Butterflies

Some butterfly varieties are protected in Switzerland. From this site:

http://www.tagfalter.net/Fragen_Schmetterlinge.pdf

"Darf ich überhaupt Schmetterlingsraupen nach Hause nehmen?

Einige Schmetterlingsarten sind in der Schweiz oder in einzelnen Kantonen geschützt. Sie dürfen, ausser mit behördlicher Bewilligung, nicht eingefangen, gehalten und ausgesetzt werden. Das Tier des Jahres 2003, der Schwalbenschwanz, ist in den Kantonen Aargau, Bern, Genf*, Obwalden, Schaffhausen, Waadt* geschützt.

*Genf und Waadt haben eine Spezialbestimmung für alle Wirbellosen Tierarten."

(My italics)

Rough translation:

Some types of butterflies are protected in either Switzerland or in certain cantons. These may not be collected, kept, or set out without a permit. The Schwalbenschwanz (Dovetail butterfly?) is protected in AG, BE, GE, OW. SH and VD. GE and VD have special provisions for all invertebrate species.

So to the OP - Whether or not one is allowed to collect may depend on the type. The Tessin cantonal veterinary authority should have a definitive answer for you.

http://www4.ti.ch/dss/dsp/uvc/ufficio/
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The Schwalbenschwanz
= Old World Swallowtail, according to Wikipedia.

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Is there anything EF won't argue about?
Honey, this is why EF is so popular!

And I now know why I can't find a good forum in Spain...
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