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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

Is there a London equivalent of the Mandy Klein service?
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

What is it that your looking for ? Like what kind of service do you want ?

Know allot of people traveling back and forth..
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

The service in Jestetten, DE offers a new service for Swiss customers.
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

Thanks for this thread.

If I were any closer to the border (and if I weren't disappearing for a few months at the beginning of next year), I'd think about setting up something similar.

Very handy to find out about the poste restante services *sigh* I remember the days when there was one in the UK.

It's also helped me make my mind up - I'm going to put some vintage silk kimonos up for sale on here (eventually), think I'll look into posting them from Switzerland as opposed to France, to lower the cost.

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Old 18.11.2012, 17:15
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

Oh no, when did they stop poste restante services in the U.K.?
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

very nice.. thanks for the thread
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

hi folks,

just wondering, if anyone has used the Poste Restante services, if they accept parcels and will sign for you if a signature is required? I read about it on the French postal site and it seemed to indicate it was for letters and magazines only?

I'd like to order some clothes from a French site and they only deliver to France and need a signature.

Many thanks!

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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

I do not know about the signature part:

Post Restante option delivery in France - anyone knows more?

Restante link

http://www.chemin-compostelle.fr/com...saint-jacques/

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Post retains packages for two weeks and then returned to the sender. It is therefore necessary to calculate the ideal date when you ask a friend of you post the package, so you can remove it from the post office of your steps.

Just ask the sender to write on the parcel, after your first and last name, the word "poste restante" followed by the name and zip code of the town of destination. If there are several post offices in this town, think to mention the name of the post office, under penalty of having to do the tedious research!

Namely: to remove mail or parcel, it will present an identity document valid and adjust the amount of the benefit, or 0.58 € (price in August 2010).

The post office is also in Spain, where it is called lista de correos . On the package, in the wording of the address, it is recommended to add your name after the word peregrino then specify lista de correos , and the city and postal code. Spanish post offices are generally open from 8:30 am to 14h, and the afternoon in the big cities.

So do not worry, you have too much or not enough equipment, solutions are simple and relatively inexpensive ...
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Re: Avoid customs charges, collect your international parcels from Constance (DE)

This looks perfect for what I need. There is an item I want to bid for in Germany (to far to collect in person) and I can't even bid since the seller selected - delivery to Germany only. One question, after I register, what address to I put into ebay and give to the seller? I don't speak German so can't understand the website. Can I go in person during the day and register there?

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Yes, LAS Burg is the service I use. They're just across the border in Weil-am-Rhein, about 200m from the Rhein Center.

Their service is more sophisticated than their website implies. You're issued with a dedicated client account number, collection card, and PIN. When your parcel arrives, it's barcoded and you receive an automatic email or SMS notification. Turn up with your card, enter your PIN, and they retrieve your package for you. The charge depending on size and how long they hold the package -- count on a couple of euros for a hold of up to a week.

I've used them countless times and haven't ever had a problem. Parking available next door, more convenient (and shorter queues) than my local post office!
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

I have often wondered about delivery to a Port Franc and collection in person to complete the formalities. I did visit to ask but need better French than mine.

There are Port Francs all over Switzerland I think , these are duty free zones.

Anyone know exactly how they work?

http://www.geneva-freeports.ch/index...section=regime

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I have often wondered about delivery to a Port Franc and collection in person to complete the formalities. I did visit to ask but need better French than mine.

There are Port Francs all over Switzerland I think , these are duty free zones.

Anyone know exactly how they work?

http://www.geneva-freeports.ch/index...section=regime
Unless you are a serious trader, the port francs won't be of much use. Anyway, if you take anything from there to Swiss customs territory, you need to declare it all the same (and the controls are a lot more strict than some of those border crossings..
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This looks perfect for what I need. There is an item I want to bid for in Germany (to far to collect in person) and I can't even bid since the seller selected - delivery to Germany only. One question, after I register, what address to I put into ebay and give to the seller? I don't speak German so can't understand the website. Can I go in person during the day and register there?
If you register at LAS Burg, you will get the address like:
Suzy BG
c/o Las Burg 123456 (customer number)
Haupstrasse 396
Weil am Rhein

So, you can use that address in ebay.de, amazon.de and countless other sites. It is super simple.

to register, you can try with: http://translate.google.com/translat...eldung&act=url
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Unless you are a serious trader, the port francs won't be of much use.
I agree their website gives that impression.
However, when I asked them they did not reject my request to have postal packages directed to them and gave me a related form. Indeed because the charges are space and time related they were minimal.


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Anyway, if you take anything from there to Swiss customs territory,
as is the purpose of this thread, a legal method. All the others seem to involve payment of VAT in other EU countries and then if lucky it's recovery. Or reliance on personal reliefs. Of course it may be these reliefs are available in every case at any customs post including Port Franc. Delivery to a Port Franc is an Export for the sender and outside both the EU and Switzerland. Departure is an import.

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you need to declare it all the same
Presumably that means legal. So one pays the correct Swiss duties without involving foreign VAT.

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(and the controls are a lot more strict than some of those border crossings..
I fail to see how customs can be lax in one place and correct in another, assuming you are wanting to be legal then you must declare whether of not asked (or even searched!)

All my declarations have been at the local Port Franc customs office. Sure they may be strict (though I remain unsure what that means in this context, seems to me customs is or is not), but they are also helpful and patient.

Anyway, my question was about whether anyone knows how the process works in practice which your response does not make clear. If you have followed the required process I will be very interested to hear the details.

I thank you for your reply as I think it illustrates what I think is a common misconception about Port Franc.
In addition to that, let us say for a moment you are right (about needing to be "big" in some way), then there is an opportunity to use Port Franc in the same way these people are doing outside the country, but within and without the EU VAT.

Any group local to a Port Franc could do it for themselves and anyone could create a business of it to avoid these ridiculous extra charges we get ripped off with.

edit: just needs an enterprising Brit or two, really. I believe the key word at the first port of entry is "transit".
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

Dear all,

found this thread and am wondering about the limit for a delivery which is abgabefrei...

I bought a second-hand clock from Germany...if the value is under 65 CHF then I will not be charged, am I correct? It is a private person and non commercial item (i.e. new). It is also hard to determine the value of an old clock by the way....

Thanks for your input.
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

Well I'm back in this part of the world, so if anyone in Lausanne, Vevey or Geneva want this service, let me know.
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Well I'm back in this part of the world, so if anyone in Lausanne, Vevey or Geneva want this service, let me know.
But you are in France? I am looking for a German address....
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When you import personally then you get 300 CHF personal allowance without paying taxes.

When an item is posted into Switzerland then it is about 65 CHF (including postage).
Now I wish her well. I have a friend in nearby France who is happy to take deliveries for me for free and brings them over when the kids come for their German lessons (in exchange for accordion for OH ) - but I'm afraid that if she does that for a fee, it is more than likely illegal and when the authorities pick up on it- she will be in trouble. Likely to happen fairly soon if she advertises, and as her details have been posted here and possibly elsewhere.

Edit - ok I've read her link now. so deliveries and pick up are in Germany, she is not bringing stuff over to CH! So that's ok then - but customer will still have to pay tax if over 300CHF coming over border, won't they? Just like I will have to when I bring stuff over delivered to my French friend, legally- or she would have to if she brings it, and I re-imburse her, legally of course.

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Now I wish her well. I have a friend in nearby France who is happy to take deliveries for me for free and brings them over when the kids come for their German lessons (in exchange for accordion for OH ) - but I'm afraid that if she does that for a fee, it is more than likely illegal and when the authorities pick up on it- she will be in trouble. Likely to happen fairly soon if she advertises, and as her details have been posted here and possibly elsewhere.
Sounds like your following Starbucks lead & optimising your tax avoidance or possibly evasion
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Re: A legal solution to avoid customs charges ( DE, FR, IT, AT delivery addresses )

The postmaster at St-Gingolph Haute-Savoie told me that they're happy to receive parcels at Poste Restante (i.e., "General Delivery" but the official IPU language is French so "Poste Restante" can be used anywhere), 74500 St-Gingolph. And that they should always be sent recorded delivery (i.e., "signed for") with a tracking number.

You then collect it and cross the bridge over the Morge into St-Gingolph VS. There is CCTV on the side roads so you might as well cross at the main street and, if asked, state your case.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47151391@N04/4385097784/

Because I'm nonresident I wouldn't have to pay tax on a temporary import anyway, but I've never been questioned crossing the bridge on foot (albeit usually with groceries, like others living in the area).

There are other towns where the national frontier is on the main street:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_divided_cities
http://www.clui.org/newsletter/winte...y-line-vermont
The latter (Derby Line VT/Stanstead QC) used to be as casual as St-Gingolph. But no longer.
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customer will still have to pay tax if over 300CHF coming over border, won't they? Just like I will have to when I bring stuff over delivered to my French friend, legally- or she would have to if she brings it, and I re-imburse her, legally of course.
Wouldn't that mean your friend would have to come through a manned border crossing? Quite a lot of hassle to put your friend through when there are so many, more convenient unmanned crossings, surely?
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