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You need at least a new plug and bulb, socket may or may not work.

Also, the difference is the voltage, and US bulbs certainly won't work at 2x.

Lastly, SZ is Schwyz, a Swiss state, CH is Switzerland!

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Yep. That's why our miserable pension from the US sometimes takes a while to arrive here in CH. The Americans keep putting SZ on the envelope which means it goes via Swaziland
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Old 08.07.2011, 15:28
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So, there is no voltage issue with lamps? Just the problem of the plug and the bulb. Did not know that
Unless it's got a transformer inside and uses 12V bulbs, but normal E14/E27 are 230V, so the internal wiring is just wire and a switch.

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Old 08.07.2011, 15:32
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Yep. That's why our miserable pension from the US sometimes takes a while to arrive here in CH. The Americans keep putting SZ on the envelope which means it goes via Swaziland
Your pension comes in an envelope by post?! And people say Switzerland is backward...
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Your pension comes in an envelope by post?! And people say Switzerland is backward...
Yes, in the form of a stamp which we peel off of the envelope
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Old 08.07.2011, 15:37
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Why on earth would you need a voltage adapter with a Swiss bulb?

Swiss bulbs works at 230VAC, no need for an adapter!

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Well I guess I'm not using the adapter to change the voltage but rather so that I can convert the plug from the American-style one to the Swiss one.
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Old 08.07.2011, 15:39
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LOL!!! Indeed, perhaps she likes it super dim.....
Yeah, with a nice glass of wine and a little Kenny G... (kidding about the Kenny G of course).
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So, there is no voltage issue with lamps? Just the problem of the plug and the bulb. Did not know that
I don't know the relevant regulations, codes etc., but technically there might be a minor issue in that double voltage means a higher risk of sparks between the two polarities. This could be a problem with certain devices, for instance with bipolar switches according to US codes that may have an insufficient distance between the conductors in screw terminals for 240 V. I'd call that risk minimal under normal usage, though. In other words, I wouldn't use such a thing, say, inside a sauna, a greenhouse or a laundry room, but that doesn't seem to be the intention anyway.
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Re: US lamps in SZ?

All that is necessary is that you change the plug and the bulbs. Nothing else is required. Most of my standing and table lamps are from the States.
You will also notice that the bulbs here last so much longer than the NA types.
I can say that in twenty years I have only had to replace maybe four bulbs.
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While most TVs here are multisync (PAL/NTSC/SECAM), most US TVs are not.

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Okay, I see what you are saying and after doing a bit more research, I now understand that PAL/NTSC/SECAM etc. are analog standards. But if my cable service is HD, and I use HDMI (both all digital) should there still be a problem (besides the step down conversion--and I'm guessing there is a switch inside the case of my tv since all this stuff is made in China and shipped to the world)?
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Re: US lamps in SZ?

We used our US TV in the Netherlands with a box and HDMI and had no problem getting it to work. The box will let you choose if you want to use PAL or NTSC . We still have to get a swiss-american converter to get it to work here.
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Okay, I see what you are saying and after doing a bit more research, I now understand that PAL/NTSC/SECAM etc. are analog standards. But if my cable service is HD, and I use HDMI (both all digital) should there still be a problem (besides the step down conversion--and I'm guessing there is a switch inside the case of my tv since all this stuff is made in China and shipped to the world)?
Basically any modern flat panel is compatible with digital signals in Switzerland. Your only problem may be getting a voltage converter.
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Okay, I see what you are saying and after doing a bit more research, I now understand that PAL/NTSC/SECAM etc. are analog standards. But if my cable service is HD, and I use HDMI (both all digital) should there still be a problem (besides the step down conversion--and I'm guessing there is a switch inside the case of my tv since all this stuff is made in China and shipped to the world)?
PAL/NTSC are not just analog standards, they are also Digital Standards.

PAL is 625-line/50 Hz, NTSC is 525-line/60 Hz. Actually, the PAL frame rate is 25/S, NTSC is 29.97/S (it was 30/S until they invented color NTSC TV, which required dropping 1 frame /1000 to fit it into the bandwith). TVs with higher refresh rates simple show the same frame multiple times.

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PAL/NTSC are not just analog standards, they are also Digital Standards.

PAL is 625-line/50 Hz, NTSC is 525-line/60 Hz. Actually, the PAL frame rate is 25/S, NTSC is 29.97/S (it was 30/S until they invented color TV, which required dropping 1 frame /1000 to fit it into the bandwith). TVs with higher refresh rates simple show the same frame multiple times.

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Thanks, Tom. I will let you know how it all goes when my TV arrives. Worst case scenario, I can use it to watch TV from my laptop and all my delicious American TV (hulu, netflix) achieved through a VPN to an American network.
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Thanks, Tom. I will let you know how it all goes when my TV arrives. Worst case scenario, I can use it to watch TV from my laptop and all my delicious American TV (hulu, netflix) achieved through a VPN to an American network.
Honestly: A high quality brand new sharp flat screen in the same size as yours (32 inch) with the latest LED technology costs 399 CHF at Digitec. If you have to spend a three digit number on all adapters to MAYBE make your used US panel work, I am not sure if it's worth it...
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Re: US lamps in SZ?

Thanks everyone for the lamp wiring/plugs/bulb/etc comments, helpful. Unfortunately cannot contribute to the US-to Switzerland TV discussion since my television was bought in the UK (and I never use the thing anyway). But hope you'll either find a good solution or a good buyer, looking for a US TV...Q
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