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Thanks a lot. This seems to be more realistic. I am on it. Do you think if I do an internship for the first few months in Germany I can save enough funds for Masters and living in Switzerland, if internship is easily available in Germany I could go this way too. Just wondering.
Short answer: No.

Explanation: In Germany, many students HAVE to do an internship and the companies know this. As a result they often pay nothing (as in zero) at all or less than you need to live on. A shame and actually the exact reason why I ended up here: I needed to do an internship, saw an offer in Switzerland and was amazed how much they pay students, got it and liked the company so much that I came back after university...

Don't bother looking for an internship in Germany if you want to use it to save some money for the masters - otherwise it surely is a great experience as well.

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- look for ads for Praktikant on the Swiss job websites (jobs.ch, jobscout.ch, monster.ch,...)
- simply make unsolicited applications to the companies here you are interested in. Internships happen very regularly and are not exactly priority for employers, so they don't necessarily spend money or effort to advertise them on websites.

In short: You will have to work on it, but then you have a fair chance.
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Oh, I am a bit surprised to hear that about Germany.
Thanks a lot!! I am definitely going to start searching. This seems to be a very good opportunity if I want to fund my own education.
You guys are all amazing out here. I hope all goes planned and I can live in Switzerland soon!

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Short answer: No.
I needed to do an internship, saw an offer in Switzerland and was amazed how much they pay students, got it and liked the company so much that I came back after university..
Hey, do i actually have to be a student of Bachelors in my country to get internship offers? Or i can also get it after I complete my bachelors? I read a few websites and this forum, seems like you have to be enrolled as a student to do internships. I will complete my bachelors in december. Can I start my internship after that? Were you still a bachelors student when you did your internship in Switzerland?

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Were you still a bachelors student when you did your internship in Switzerland?
a) yes, it was part of my bachelor course.

b) when i came back to Switzerland, I was an intern for the first six months (because my boss had to arrange a headcount to offer me a "real" job). That was after graduation, but I am not sure if that was entirely legal to be honest...

c) I know a research institute (unfortunately not your field) that has plenty of interns and they are all graduated and at least half come from "unusual" non-EU countries.

My internships were quite some time ago, so better ask somebody with a more recent experience as these things change a lot over time...
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

For an internship you could try and email the professors at ETH in your field. It's difficult but would be great if you could get it. Apart from the money it would look great on a masters application.

I know you've said you don't need any info on living costs, but thought I'd just tell you my experience. Zurich is an expensive city, but it's possible to do on a budget. I live on about 10,000 CHF a year, so you can make your 5,000 go quite far. I've been a masters student at ETH for a year now, so if there's anything else you want to know just give me a shout.
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That was after graduation, but I am not sure if that was entirely legal to be honest...
My internships were quite some time ago, so better ask somebody with a more recent experience as these things change a lot over time...
Ok so there is this confusion of getting the internship after my bachelors. Ya, I am definitely going to ask someone but will do my own research first and see if I can get some information on this forum and the internet. Thanks for your help. You opened a new way for me to follow my plans

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For an internship you could try and email the professors at ETH in your field. It's difficult but would be great if you could get it. Apart from the money it would look great on a masters application.

I know you've said you don't need any info on living costs, but thought I'd just tell you my experience. Zurich is an expensive city, but it's possible to do on a budget. I live on about 10,000 CHF a year, so you can make your 5,000 go quite far. I've been a masters student at ETH for a year now, so if there's anything else you want to know just give me a shout.

Ok, so when I first started this thread I was looking for such a comment to miraculously free me from all my worries and assure me that I am being at least a bit realistic. Thanks man!!!

Hey, the information you provided is very important for me please don't think I don't need advice about the lifestyle and budget management. By living costs I just meant the specific price lists of everyday stuff. Anyway, so what do you suggest should I hunt for internships before starting my Masters or I can get such part-time placement after I start masters?

And considering the initial expenses such as rent payments and University semester fees, CHF 5000 still seem sufficient? Are you non-EU? Did you work in the first six months?

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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

I did an internship in a lab after the second year of my bachelors in London. I got paid something like £120 a week, but know people who got paid double this. I know this isn't exactly helpful, but just wanted you to know that it is possible for bachelors students to get internships. I don't know about your department put paid internships for masters students are unheard of in mine. Everyone has to do a semester project and master project, so there's always a queue of people who'll work for free. But I would advise you to definitely try. I know masters students who work as teaching assistants though, there are definitely opportunities there.

I know you've seen the stuff about scholarships for foreign masters students, but did you see the excellence scholarship ?

As far as expenses go, the most important thing is finding cheap accomodation. There's already loads of info on here about where to find a place to live. I got mine through Juwo. I pay 425 CHF a month with all bills included plus I didn't have to pay a deposit, and it's in a great house. I spend 200 CHF a month on food, living with 5 others makes cooking much cheaper. On top of this there's 80CHF on travel and maybe 200CHF on fun stuff . But don't forget about health insurance. The semester fees aren't that steep, 664 CHF, and this only has to be paid after a few months.

Oh, and I'm EU, so my circumstances are a little different to yours.
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

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I don't know about your department put paid internships for masters students are unheard of in mine. I know masters students who work as teaching assistants though, there are definitely opportunities there..
So you think internship might not be easily available for masters students and the problem is i cant do internship during my bachelors, it will only be possible after I finish my bachelors, i am still going to try. You also said that teaching assistance is allowed. Is it easy to get this job of a teaching assistant, i mean immediately after starting my masters like maybe in the first month of the fall semester? How much do they pay? What about Research assistantships? I read about it in the EPFL website!


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I know you've seen the stuff about scholarships for foreign masters students, but did you see the excellence scholarship?
Yes, I have seen this. I am definitely going to apply but the problem here is that I am not too sure about their requirement of a pre-proposal of Master Thesis. I mean I would obviously want to learn and grow over time in this field during my masters and then decide my thesis. So I don't know how to proceed with it. And then even if i propose a Master's thesis I will be bound to follow that and what if I want to change into something more interesting. I dont know. Not so sure about this requirement.


And lastly about the expenses. I am obviously going to try and narrow down my expenses as much as I can.

So I need to once more ask you. With CHF 5000 planning to live in a way that I can save AS MUCH as possible, will I be able to survive considering that I can only work at the ETH department for the first six months as I am non-EU!?
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So I need to once more ask you. With CHF 5000 planning to live in a way that I can save AS MUCH as possible, will I be able to survive considering that I can only work at the ETH department for the first six months as I am non-EU!?
Sorry, let me add. I am only allowed to work for the first six months at the ETH department and then after that anywhere I want!
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

excellence I have no idea of how to help you, but sounds like you are getting plenty of good advice from Mr T. I was impressed with the quality this thread and the work you have obviously put in and I hope things work out for you.... good luck
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Oh yes definitely! Everyone here has been of such a great help. Thank you so much guys!
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

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So you think internship might not be easily available for masters students and the problem is i cant do internship during my bachelors, it will only be possible after I finish my bachelors, i am still going to try. You also said that teaching assistance is allowed. Is it easy to get this job of a teaching assistant, i mean immediately after starting my masters like maybe in the first month of the fall semester? How much do they pay? What about Research assistantships? I read about it in the EPFL website!
As far as the internship goes, you'd really need to ask someone with experience in your department. There are quite a few other ETH students on here, possibly some in your field. So maybe try and track them down, they'll probably be able to give you better advice. I don't know any masters students on a research assistantship, but again this is probably different for different departments.

For teaching assistantships, the people I know run exercise classes that run alongside the lectures. I think they get paid something like 20 CHF an hour, but only do a few hours a week. I guess to get a position you'll have to show evidence that you're capable, like doing well in a similar course at your current uni. But I don't know if a prof will be willing to give the responsibility to someone they haven't met before. Obviously if you're able to teach in German this will open more doors, as most Bachelor courses are in German.

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I am definitely going to apply but the problem here is that I am not too sure about their requirement of a pre-proposal of Master Thesis. I mean I would obviously want to learn and grow over time in this field during my masters and then decide my thesis. So I don't know how to proceed with it. And then even if i propose a Master's thesis I will be bound to follow that and what if I want to change into something more interesting. I dont know. Not so sure about this requirement.
I'd really try and find out about this as soon as possible, as it's a lot of money if you can get it. I'd email the scholarship office to clarify the whole master thesis proposal thing.

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So I need to once more ask you. With CHF 5000 planning to live in a way that I can save AS MUCH as possible, will I be able to survive considering that I can only work at the ETH department for the first six months as I am non-EU!?
This is a a bit tricky. I've told you what I can survive on, and I'm happy to give you more details about by budget, or any tips. But I'm very reluctant to say, 'yes definitely, you can survive on 5000.' I think that would be unwise and something you need to decide for yourself. I'm not trying to be difficult, just helpful.

One thing you've not mentioned in your post is if you're able to show sufficient funds for the student visa, I don't if this is something you've overlooked or just left from your post. As you're from Pakistan you'll need a student visa. And for this you need to show evidence that you can support yourself financially, you need 21,000 CHF in your bank account. You should look at section 3 of this.
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As far as the internship goes, you'd really need to ask someone with experience in your department. There are quite a few other ETH students on here, possibly some in your field. So maybe try and track them down, they'll probably be able to give you better advice. I don't know any masters students on a research assistantship, but again this is probably different for different departments.
Interesting! Ok so today I talked to my chairperson about it. Actually, my bachelors in biomedical engineering is a 5 years program and the last 5 months( 1 whole semester) are dedicated for training/internship. Today I talked to my Chairperson about choosing to go abroad for an internship if I can arrange it on my own. She encouraged me and said it is definitely possible So I now just need to hunt for some professors or any company who allow internships for non-EU students! Tough job- but Mr.T has also helped a lot on this so i am not losing hope.


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For teaching assistantships, the people I know run exercise classes that run alongside the lectures. I think they get paid something like 20 CHF an hour, but only do a few hours a week. I guess to get a position you'll have to show evidence that you're capable, like doing well in a similar course at your current uni. But I don't know if a prof will be willing to give the responsibility to someone they haven't met before. Obviously if you're able to teach in German this will open more doors, as most Bachelor courses are in German.
OMG! only CHF 20 for a few hours in the week. That is bad news especially for me because I can only work at the ETH dept for the first six months. Six months with this job ( if i get it) and CHF 5000 can get difficult especially if i want to save money for the rest of the yea.Can be difficult. About teaching in German. I will make sure I complete level A2 German before coming to Switzerland but don't really know if it is going to be enough for teaching assistantship.


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I'd really try and find out about this as soon as possible, as it's a lot of money if you can get it. I'd email the scholarship office to clarify the whole master thesis proposal thing.
OMG! Aren't you like the most helpful person on planet earth!? haha Cant thank you enough.

And I completely understand that you can't just state 'Go for it, live on CHF 5000' I will definitely ask you for tips if everything works out soon.

OH yes I know about this financial statement requirement. Some one in this thread asked me the same question. I will quote my reply here :


"Yes, sorry I forgot to mention that I know about the initial financial statement that has to be shown. Actually, that can be taken care of. It's not that my Parents don't have this money, if you read in my first post i said i don't intend to burden them with more than CHF 5000. Obviously, they have other liabilities too so I just don't want to take all that they have. I am going to return this initial support they provide me with as soon as I can, so I don't want to take anymore. The financial statement can be easily shown for the student visa, I have also seen the requirements of the specific banks that have to be in Switzerland. That is done."
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First of all: Great first post! I like to help people who demonstrate that they tried everything they can first before asking others.

I guess that getting a job at the university "on your own" is really hard - at any university are those jobs in high demand as every student prefers to make money by working in his field of study instead of being a waiter in a bar...

Logical conclusion:

1. Talk to the international office of the university and explain your situation. They have the contacts and an interest to attract good students (vs. students who are not that great but have rich parents...). Maybe they can help you. In any way: Do not expect to arrive here and miracuously find a job in the very narrow area you are actually allowed to work...

2. You need to find an alternative to finance a bridge of six months. Any chance? In my country does for example the government support people getting a higher education by offering them very cheap credits...

3. Is an internship before the Masters a theoretical legal possibility? While not being "real" jobs pay they quite well here and while the country is crazy expensive can you very well survive on little for a time - I know because I did this - living minimalistic for an internship semester here made me save enough beer money for the next four semesters back home... translated to you: If you can make an internship for six months or so full-time earning typically some 2500 CHF a month makes it possible to save enough to bridge your six months without work and even gets you some connections for possible part - time jobs later on... I know that we had plenty of non-EU interns, so I have the feeling this should be possible...
What you should do is get your master's degree in Pakistan first and then apply to the PhD programs--at either ETH or EPFL (cheaper city, just as prestigious). Then, they'll pay you a stipend as a graduate student (aprox 50,000 CHF/yr)--enough to live as a student in an expensive Swiss city.
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So I now just need to hunt for some professors or any company who allow internships for non-EU students! Tough job- but Mr.T has also helped a lot on this so i am not losing hope.
My advice on this would be to ask as many professors as you can, and don't be disheartened if some don't reply, I found quite a few did this when I tried. Maybe try and get a prof you know to help you write the email/letter.

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OMG! only CHF 20 for a few hours in the week.
I just did a quick search for 'ethz teaching assistantship' and came across this advert. I know this maybe isn't what you're looking for, but it's just to give you an idea of money and hours. They're offering 22.60 CHF an hour for 5-10 hours a week. You'll get a better idea by trawling through all the biomed groups and looking for open positions.

Sorry for missing the financial statement thing , I just got this awful feeling you maybe hadn't see it.
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Hey! Thanks for the concern. I was given a similar suggestion earlier on this thread but that was about working in my field after Bachelors in Pakistan and then applying for Masters. I appreciate your advice but there is this problem and I quote my reply here:



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It is actually the way I should go on with my professional life, you are right. But the problem is i am interested in Molecular Bio-engineering and Tissue engineering field. Here in Pakistan, Biomedical Engineers only have job openings at a few hospitals for their radiology department's equipment maintenance. We do not have other fields of Biomedical in Pakistan, specially the one I am interested in. My field doesn't really allow me to stay in Pakistan after Bachelors.
Similarly, the masters courses in Pakistan are ALL related to Instrumentation. And I am not interested in doing masters in this track.
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My advice on this would be to ask as many professors as you can, and don't be disheartened if some don't reply, I found quite a few did this when I tried. Maybe try and get a prof you know to help you write the email/letter.

I just did a quick search for 'ethz teaching assistantship' and came across this advert. I know this maybe isn't what you're looking for, but it's just to give you an idea of money and hours. They're offering 22.60 CHF an hour for 5-10 hours a week. You'll get a better idea by trawling through all the biomed groups and looking for open positions.

Sorry for missing the financial statement thing , I just got this awful feeling you maybe hadn't see it.
Very useful link. I am now considering doing something in return for all your help instead of saying thanks. LOL

Oh no problem at all for missing out the financial statement part. I know my situation is very weird and you were just trying to help.
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

Hey CMYERS.
I have another question. I was reading the thread from someone totally disappointed from the ETH admissions system. Although I got your point in your reply about his issue, my question is what if for instance some of my bachelor's courses are not accepted and I have to take them first at ETH. Do I have to show the C1 level German Language proficiency for taking those courses? Because I was thinking of doing just the A2 level for the everyday communication in Switzerland. OMG! Never thought of this! Seems like my research wasn't extensive enough! What do you suggest?
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

Hey Exellence. Firstly, don't panic. I didn't have to repeat any bachelors courses when I started, so this may be the same with you. And your situation is different from the other thread as there is no biomed engineering bachelor programme. From what I saw the students come from engineering/physics/computer science (and a few others). So there will not be a lot of common knowledge. I imagine all of the really important stuff will be taught to everyone at the start, as all the incoming students have very different backgrounds. So I think you'll be fine.
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

Excellence please let me know how it goes. I am also in the same situation as you. Does ETH Zurich and Lausanne have the same rules? for the first 6 months of Masters a student can only work in the university? Could you send me the link of the law which allows that? I only read posts where it says - students of Masters can only work after 6 months. I haven't read anything that says students can work in the university for the first 6 months.

Thank you and Good luck to you! I know you can do it. I just came from Switzerland and I love the place, hopefully you will be successful there :-)
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Re: I have a situation here [getting a job and studying Masters at ETH]

I would agree with a lot of the advise here.
Do not come here right out of University having done your bachelors and go directly into a masters!!!
The Swiss will not easily employ somebody here that has a masters and no experience in the "real world". Incomes here are heavily dependent on your education level as well as other factors.
Get real world work experience before doing your masters!!!
Trust me on this, the amount of people that I hear about not being able to get jobs with masters and doctorates because they have no work experience is significant.
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