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Old 26.07.2011, 11:36
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Where to buy USV/UPS sealed lead batteries in CH

As there are quite a few IT professionals on EF, I thought I would ask if anyone knows a reasonably priced vendor in CH? I have an APC Smart UPS 1500 (SUA model I believe) which has completely dead batteries reading 0Volts.

According to what I found on the internet, they are permanently damaged now and will have to be replaced. (Seems they were left attached to the UPS for over 3 months without charging) The best price I can find in CH is around 200CHF for the battery pack. However, if I could find the 2 individual batteries which make up the battery pack, then maybe I could save some money?

Battery code is RBC7. This battery pack is made up of 2 x 12v 17Ah SLA batteries. (Dimensions are approx 180x75x165)

Does anyone have any advice please?

Many thanks.
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Re: Where to buy USV/UPS sealed lead batteries in CH

I have left a UPS uncharged for a year and no problems. Have you actually pulled the batteries and tested their voltage or are you taking software readings ?

Have you run a deep discharge/charge cycle yet ? Try to pull them and do a shock charge, this can be done using an intelligent charger. The baterries have a heavy duty discharge cycle and should be salvageable through some reconditioning charging.


Digitec.ch sell APC UPS batteries, but for the replacement costs, you may as well buy a new unit unless you can source abroad (but again, shipping costs of lead batteries is very high)


Search for "APC RBC7" at www.digitec.ch, they have the battery you want.

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Not sure if this helps (sorry for the long link).

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Re: Where to buy USV/UPS sealed lead batteries in CH

Thanks for the info. I already checked digitec and other places in CH. The costs are quite expensive as you probably know. A replacement UPS of the same make/model is around 550CHF so for now I am trying the replacement battery route.

The UPS would not start at all (no lights or noises) and when I removed the batteries and measured each individual battery, I got the 0 volt reading. When I checked the APC website, it is explained that the UPS will not start if it has a low voltage reading or an open circuit in the battery supply.

So, I used a 'smart' car charger which made several attempts to de-sulphate and recover the batteries. I ended up with around 8 to 9 volts in each battery. When I reinstalled them to the UPS, the UPS now powers up but then shuts down after the self diagnostics test.

According to APC, this is normal and still indicates that the batteries are permanently damaged and should be replaced.
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Not sure if this helps (sorry for the long link).
Thanks but this link does not work. I looked up Conrad this morning and fell of my chair when I found the prices
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Thanks for the info. I already checked digitec and other places in CH. The costs are quite expensive as you probably know. A replacement UPS of the same make/model is around 550CHF so for now I am trying the replacement battery route.

The UPS would not start at all (no lights or noises) and when I removed the batteries and measured each individual battery, I got the 0 volt reading. When I checked the APC website, it is explained that the UPS will not start if it has a low voltage reading or an open circuit in the battery supply.

So, I used a 'smart' car charger which made several attempts to de-sulphate and recover the batteries. I ended up with around 8 to 9 volts in each battery. When I reinstalled them to the UPS, the UPS now powers up but then shuts down after the self diagnostics test.

According to APC, this is normal and still indicates that the batteries are permanently damaged and should be replaced.

The local replacement costs is going to be cheaper than buying abroad and shipping. These batteries are heavy.

Given that you know the batteries are dead, and you know the replacement costs, what other options are you trying to find ?
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A cheaper one.
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A cheaper one.
http://www.microspot.ch/microspot/pr..._-_/detail.jsf

167CHF, that's as cheap locally as you will get , and matches the UK/DE prices including shipping. All other options are wishful thinking, and 2nd hand batteries should be avoided.
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http://www.microspot.ch/microspot/pr..._-_/detail.jsf

167CHF, that's as cheap locally as you will get , and matches the UK/DE prices including shipping. All other options are wishful thinking, and 2nd hand batteries should be avoided.
Yeah, I think you are right. Thanks for looking it up; it's appreciated.

The UPS is just a hobby thing to keep my home file server alive when we sometimes have power problems. That's why I was looking for any alternative (that usually means cheap when I say it!) but I see that 167CHF is quite reasonable considering.

I'll try the smart charger a few more times and see if the reconditioning function works. If not, then I'll order the replacement from microspot.
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