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Re: Why ?

Oh dear, the apostrophe that shouldn't be... I've been infected.
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Go to the Migro freezer section and stick your head in. If anybody asks you dropped 5 rappen. Given the exchange rate thats a fortune for an English visitor.
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

It's funny how people bang on about how terrible for the environment air-conditioning is, yet utter not a peep about having the heating on full blast throughout the winter.

We all have our preferences. I can't stand being hot, and was delighted to discover that our new flat has tenant-controlled heating. That means I can turn it off, and actually get some sleep at night.

I'm sure the energy saved by not having the radiators fixed at 20 degrees from October to May gives me something of a moral right to say 'bugger the environment' and have a bit of air conditioning for a couple of weeks in the summer as compensation, no?
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

Yep go to Dubai and tell them to turn off the AC. They will drown you in a bucket of oil.
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

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It's funny how people bang on about how terrible for the environment air-conditioning is, yet utter not a peep about having the heating on full blast throughout the winter.

We all have our preferences. I can't stand being hot, and was delighted to discover that our new flat has tenant-controlled heating. That means I can turn it off, and actually get some sleep at night.

I'm sure the energy saved by not having the radiators fixed at 20 degrees from October to May gives me something of a moral right to say 'bugger the environment' and have a bit of air conditioning for a couple of weeks in the summer as compensation, no?
My home is heated by the city's rubbish being burnt. Can I have my halo now?
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I can't stand being hot, and was delighted to discover that our new flat has tenant-controlled heating. That means I can turn it off, and actually get some sleep at night.

Must be nice to be out of prison finally.
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

I'm very amused at the justification of environmental issues for no AC.

Living in general is bad for the environment. But we're going to do it, and we're going to do it comfortably.

When you bedroom is 30+, sleep for many is affected. Poor sleep will cause a whole can of worms of other issues.

It's just a few weeks of such weather, so just use the AC for a few weeks, that simple. I bought an AC unit as soon as possible. Show up for work well rested and relaxed, while everyone else looks hungover from tossing and turning in sweaty sheets all night.

It's also not to safe healthwise for the elderly. I'm sure there are many causes of heat stroke and death over the last couple weeks
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

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It's funny how people bang on about how terrible for the environment air-conditioning is, yet utter not a peep about having the heating on full blast throughout the winter.

We all have our preferences. I can't stand being hot, and was delighted to discover that our new flat has tenant-controlled heating. That means I can turn it off, and actually get some sleep at night.

I'm sure the energy saved by not having the radiators fixed at 20 degrees from October to May gives me something of a moral right to say 'bugger the environment' and have a bit of air conditioning for a couple of weeks in the summer as compensation, no?
I can lend you my Thermos, if you like...
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Most homes lack ACs...?
Summer is the one time of year in Switzerland that everyone is a schwitze..
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

More spoilt brats. Excellent!
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

AC is not commonplace in most of the EU, especially places like Switzerland where housing design is in a different class of efficiency compared to the USA.

It really doesn't take much to get a house cooled down here, even when it's in the mid 30's.

AC and heating are approached in a much more sustainable way too. Our little 'housing estate' here has geothermal heating. I haven't seen many gas/oil/coal heated houses here, like I would expect to see in the US/UK.
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ACs are bad for the environment and you only "need" them for about three weeks of an entire year. Find other ways of staying cool.
Actually, our A/C unit is excellent for the living environment at our apartment.

If it's worth it or not to have A/C in your house or apartment depends a lot on your personal circumstances. Our unit has already paid itself many times over since I do a substantial part of my work from home and my productivity drops like a stone once it gets hotter than about 25 degrees Celsius.

As far as restaurants, stores and other public facilities are concerned I just expect them to have A/C. If they don't and it's uncomfortably hot in there they won't get my business. Period.
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I know it's HOT now but it won't be for long so there's really no point to AC. I bought a few fans that's how I'm coping.
I know it's been HOT for 2 weeks and that Global Warming and Climate Change are a reality. All of the justifications for not having it really are short sighted, so there really is a POINT to having AC in new home construction even if nobody wants to use it, or if they only want to use it for 2 weeks.

If buildings would be modernized to include it, it could result in saved lives when the next big heat wave comes.
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I know it's been HOT for 2 weeks and that Global Warming and Climate Change are a reality. All of the justifications for not having it really are short sighted, so there really is a POINT to having AC in new home construction even if nobody wants to use it, or if they only want to use it for 2 weeks.

If buildings would be modernized to include it, it could result in saved lives when the next big heat wave comes.
I don't agree. It's possible to build homes now that don't require central heating in the winter (within reason, maybe not in the alps!) or air conditioning in the summer. It's just a matter of bringing the cost of them down to reasonable levels through innovation.
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

Am I the only one to find it odd that someone from India complains about the heat and lack of air conditioning in Switzerland??
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

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I'm very amused at the justification of environmental issues for no AC.

Living in general is bad for the environment. But we're going to do it, and we're going to do it comfortably.

When you bedroom is 30+, sleep for many is affected. Poor sleep will cause a whole can of worms of other issues.

It's just a few weeks of such weather, so just use the AC for a few weeks, that simple. I bought an AC unit as soon as possible. Show up for work well rested and relaxed, while everyone else looks hungover from tossing and turning in sweaty sheets all night.

It's also not to safe healthwise for the elderly. I'm sure there are many causes of heat stroke and death over the last couple weeks
I agree. We use AC to cool the bedroom before we go to sleep.
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Because it is not necessary and increases the effects of global warming.
Actually if the A/C is powered by Swiss electricity (almost entirely hydro or nuclear) then it's probably less carbon intensive than the heating in winter given that most of the hot water & heating systems in the places I've lived in were natural gas or good 'ol stinky heating oil.

Not to mention the industrial applications of A/C , such as its original "killer app."in printing houses to ensure consistent drying of ink - saving lots of energy paper, and all the water, trees and bleach used to make paper, and more recently in data centers where the A/C prolongs the life of the servers thus reducing the turnover of equipment whose manufacture has a large environmental impact....
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It really doesn't take much to get a house cooled down here, even when it's in the mid 30's.

We had that thread and most of us were sweating under fans and sleeping buck nekked with wet towels. And based on what I went through these past two weeks, the only thing that cooled my house down was this storm tonight!
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

Back in my hayday, I used to help my farmer friends rake the hay in the fields. Yup, I was one of those bikini-top toting, short shorts beauties that actually had shaved under their arms.

But I digress. For our z'vieri, we would be served hot watered-down coffee from a thermos and were urged to be generous with the schnapps. Believe it or not, it really did cool us down after a hot day of field work.
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Re: Lack of air conditioning and frost-free fridges in Switzerland

Speaking of air-conditioning, my colleagues at work refuses to switch on the AC when we are in the room. Instead their theory is one should on the AC after work (even for the long weekend) so that the chairs etc. are cool enough when we come to work. And they claim you will get back pain if you sit in an air-conditioned room for long...

It seems quite a weird theory to me as I thought to do it the other way round - switch on when you are in, switch off when you are out (to save energy etc.). Any insight on this?
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