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So what should I expect from my first iPL session?
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Old 20.12.2011, 19:30
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So what should I expect from my first iPL session?
That it will hurt like hell. Do yourself a favor & find a Duet LightSheer laser. I know they have them in Spain. Don't know if specifically in BCN.

Oh, wait, are you one of the ones that rip the hair out with that little machine and think it's normal? Well, never mind then...... Have fun!
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That it will hurt like hell. Do yourself a favor & find a Duet LightSheer laser. I know they have them in Spain. Don't know if specifically in BCN.

Oh, wait, are you one of the ones that rip the hair out with that little machine and think it's normal? Well, never mind then...... Have fun!
For me it was mainly bearable and only became a bit teeth-clenching when she was doing skin that was thin and close to bones (ankles and shins for example). The thighs and backs of calves were fine and it just felt like someone had dipped a teaspoon in hot water and was rubbing it over a small area. Moderate discomfort.

You can always tell the person doing it that it hurts and they knock it down a notch or two.
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Re: Permanent hair removal

I found a place where they have a promotion for 12 euros for an hour. They do underarms for that price. So let assume it cost me 3 sessions at 12 euros each and this is the maximum of sessions for this offer and pay the rest full price, it is 35 euros, which still a very good deal at the end. I don't have much hair there but want to get rid of it.

Do I have to have hair all grown or it works if I already Silk Epiled it?
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I found a place where they have a promotion for 12 euros for an hour. They do underarms for that price. So let assume it cost me 3 sessions at 12 euros each and this is the maximum of sessions for this offer and pay the rest full price, it is 35 euros, which still a very good deal at the end. I don't have much hair there but want to get rid of it.

Do I have to have hair all grown or it works if I already Silk Epiled it?
You have to wait three months after waxing, creams or using the epi machine before you can do this treatment. You can shave in the meantime, but no other hair removal process. The light/laser needs to have the hair there (at least the root) for it to work. Also, you should stay out of the sun. You need the difference in color between the hair & the skin to be the greatest possible.

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Is it true that nowadays younger men shave their legs and chest? I always get into an argument with MG's sil because I say it is and he says only gay men do it.
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Is it true that nowadays younger men shave their legs and chest? I always get into an argument with MG's sil because I say it is and he says only gay men do it.
Just talked about that at lunch today! According to my colleague who plays handball and "has seen more naked guys than the average woman" there are many who shave completely but are not gay. They're mostly in their 20ties and -interestingly- the higher the education the more hair...
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You have to wait three months after waxing, creams or using the epi machine before you can do this treatment. You can shave in the meantime, but no other hair removal process. The light/laser needs to have the hair there (at least the root) for it to work. Also, you should stay out of the sun. You need the difference in color between the hair & the skin to be the greatest possible.
why?
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why?
Something to do with the lifecycle of the hair and its root. If you zap it when it's not mature and established it might come back. Or at least that was how I understood it.
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It's awful to see a woman all dressed up in a smart skirt and suit, wearing sheer stockings and nice shoes..... with hairy legs.
The most awful sight I ever had was at a wedding - a lovely bride in a lovely dress and then... and then.. (omg still gives me nightmares, can hardly type this) ..she lifted her skirt a little to walk up the steps of the church and then... I saw her legs - no stockings but a nice dark fur
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Because not all hair grows at the same time. If you wait 3 months, it should be enough to make sure almost all the hair is big enough. It is also the reason you should wait about 6 months between treatments.

The hair will be shaved before the treatment, but it must be long enough to transmit the laser light pulses into the root (meaning at least epiderme length). If the hair is way to short to actually receive the pulse, the treatment will not affect it.



If you girls would like a first hand experience on this pulse light treatment, I could share it with you. I'm doing my very last treatment in 2 days time (started it 5 years ago). My case was used on the company's book sample because it was so effective (got a success rate way above normal).
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Old 20.12.2011, 22:25
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If you girls would like a first hand experience on this pulse light treatment, I could share it with you. I'm doing my very last treatment in 2 days time (started it 5 years ago). My case was used on the company's book sample because it was so effective (got a success rate way above normal).
tell us more.

So you started 5 years ago? Which area? And you shaved between?
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If you girls would like a first hand experience on this pulse light treatment, I could share it with you. I'm doing my very last treatment in 2 days time (started it 5 years ago). My case was used on the company's book sample because it was so effective (got a success rate way above normal).
Interesting! How come you wait 6 months between treatments? I'm starting this January and will get 6 treatments (once every four weeks). The hair should get into the good growth phase in just a few weeks I thought.
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Old 20.12.2011, 22:44
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tell us more.

So you started 5 years ago? Which area? And you shaved between?
That sounds so nauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughty!!!!

I started it 5 years ago. I went to a pretty big Spanish company that had just established in Portugal. I paid about 1200 euros for full legs and groin, which covers 5 sessions in total, which should have at least 6 months in between each, the last one at least 12 months. Since I meanwhile changed country a couple of times, sessions grew apart quite long, which made the doctor actually happy (the longer apart the better).

I was considered a perfect guinea pig because I have very white skin and completely black hair. They warned me that red hair is basically impossible to remove with the strong pulse laser, and that the darker the hair plus lighter the skin, the higher the chance of success. I was forbidden to take sun before the treatments, and at least 1 month after each treatment. Basically the best time is December.

You are allowed to shave between sessions, but you should avoid wax. As MiniMia said, you should not shave before each session, preferably for at least 1 month, the longer the better to make sure all hair is epidermis height.

You will be shaved in loco by the nurses/doctor.

They will put a local anaesthesia gel. It will dull the pain a bit. But please be aware that it causes a freaking lot of pain. The darker and thicker the hair, the stronger the pain will be. The treatment is done with a pulse machine that resembles one of the bar code machines from the supermarket, and it’s done in a succession of 2 cm apart pulses. If you are doing legs, this takes about 1h to 1h30 hour of pure torture.

The pain goes away pretty much after you finish. You will feel very hot for a while, as if you took a bit too much sun, and you will have to put extra hydratating cream for a couple of days.

The pain was so great in the first session I counted to 100 in Portuguese, then French, then English, then German, then decreasing from 100 to 1 all over again just to avoid thinking about the pain.

Was it worth it? Abso-f@cking-lutely. The saying “one must suffer to be beautiful” was never so worth believing.

They were very professional and gave me a bunch of information before I decided to go for it. One of the things that they made sure that I understood is that there is no such thing as a 100%. Usually you get a 70% erasing of hair, the remaining ones thinner. They gave me a warranty of 10 years. After 10 years it might be that the follicles regenerate and some hair might grow back, but nothing really serious. In my case, specially on the legs, I have a success rate of about 90% in only 4 sessions.

I did this because I was psychologically destroyed and the constant shaving/waxing was leaving scars on my skin. It helped boosting my self esteem, and even though I had to go through those hours of torture, I would advise it to anyone that has the possibility to do it.

I still have a hair or two, specially on the thighs where the hair was lighter, but having the possibility of, you know, wearing a bikini and actually not having to worry about combing cat fur, is pretty f@cking awesome.
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Interesting! How come you wait 6 months between treatments? I'm starting this January and will get 6 treatments (once every four weeks). The hair should get into the good growth phase in just a few weeks I thought.
It might be that each company and each individual has a different time. I was demanded 6 months to make sure the skin regenerates (we are talking about pretty strong light pulses that might cause a 2nd degree burn on a worse case scenario) and to make sure that the "traumatized" roots have time to wake up and shoot whatever juice they have left.

Basically with each session my hair got weaker, thinner, and took longer to grow. Between the 1 and 2 session I didn't notice much, but 3 weeks after the 2nd season, after the hair had grown about 5 mm out of the skin, the hair actually fell. As in, like dead leaves. It just collapsed.

I was explained that some roots get "traumatized" with the pulse and might take longer to grow, which might lead to the next session not affecting this specific hair, leading to a lower chance of erradication.

But please be aware this is for my case: white skin, black hair, legs, company Y. Your case might be slightly different
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You do not need to wait 6 months between treatments. You need to wait 3 months after you wax so you can get the maximum of hair back up into the root. From there you can go every 4-6 weeks depending on your hair, your person, the light/laser you are using.

Also check with your treatment place. I shave 24 hrs before I go.

You should really skip the pulsed light ones & use the lazer. It works much better and hurts much less, less change of any skin burning.

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You should really skip the pulsed light ones & use the lazer. It works much better and hurts much less, less change of any skin burning.

If anyone ever burns you don't go back to them!!!
Well, the lazer is also light hihihihihihihihihihi They explained me the difference, and gave me a huge speach against the cheap pulse light done on hairdressers. The dermatologist I consulted gave me the same speach. But that was 5 years ago and I don't remember the whole mumbo jumbo anymore.

I was warned that I was probably going to feel more pain than usual on the first sessions because of my specific case. They kept telling me of other clients falling asleep during proceedures, but I just don't believe it lol

I just consulted their site and they keep saying "painless". The only thing coming to my head is "Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah right."
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Well, the lazer is also light hihihihihihihihihihi They explained me the difference, and gave me a huge speach against the cheap pulse light done on hairdressers. The dermatologist I consulted gave me the same speach. But that was 5 years ago and I don't remember the whole mumbo jumbo anymore.

I was warned that I was probably going to feel more pain than usual on the first sessions because of my specific case. They kept telling me of other clients falling asleep during proceedures, but I just don't believe it lol

I just consulted their site and they keep saying "painless". The only thing coming to my head is "Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah right."
I've done both the IPL and LightSheer (or is it SheerLight?). The IPL hurts like hell. The other doesn't.

ETA: Actually, I just looked it up. The first treatments I had were with an alexandrite laser. But they still hurt like hell! If the treatments you are doing hurt, see if you can find this LightSheer laser. It rocks!
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I've done both the IPL and LightSheer (or is it SheerLight?). The IPL hurts like hell. The other doesn't.
Ah, might ask about it tomorrow I've been thinking about shedding the armpits lately, but I was always a bit afraid of it because of the pain I experienced on the legs.

Thanks for the tip
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As for experience in permanent hair removal, I have none, sorry, but I'd just like to add that one of my ex's friends (who was a doctor) just LOVED hairy women...the hairier the better, even bearded!! LMAO!!! As they say,"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"....
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