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Old 03.10.2011, 19:30
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What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

My OH, who is as sharp a cookie as ever commented on the human condition, has a theory about the Swiss, their rules and their complaints about small things.

Her theory is that life in Switzerland is so good, so perfect that the human brain cannot cope with it and that the human capacity for complaint must be filled with something. In Moscow, in Beijing, in Bangkok, in Mossside, there is plenty to fully extend the complaint gene, but here there is nothing......so people's need to complain is filled by the minor things which have been covered elsewhere ad infinitum.....minor things which don't really add up to much but seem to make people very angry.

So with apologies to George Orwell...but if he read some of the threads here over the last few days....he may have written

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Old 05.10.2011, 12:53
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

That is rather true. I always thought that after school, before getting into their life's work, all Swiss should go do some Social work in India, or Afganistan or Angola, spend 6 months there, come back and realize how much they have to be happy about. Also it would help broaden their minds and remember that there is a biiiig wide world outside their Gemeinde, Canton and Country, where people actually have hardships.
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Old 05.10.2011, 13:10
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It's like living in a zombie take on 1984!

*big brother is watching you* *big sister is deleting your account while you're not watching*
I think he would be proud his fears have come true! Except the Big Brother is actually a Big Sister.

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That is rather true. I always thought that after school, before getting into their life's work, all Swiss should go do some Social work in India, or Afganistan or Angola, spend 6 months there, come back and realize how much they have to be happy about. Also it would help broaden their minds and remember that there is a biiiig wide world outside their Gemeinde, Canton and Country, where people actually have hardships.
I agree with all that has been said here but why go out into that big bad world when you live in a perfectly regulated paradise?
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Old 05.10.2011, 14:34
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

I think George Orwell would hate living in Switzerland (Ann Rand, too) and would probably agree with a lot of the EF's rants about life here. True, it's not a communist country, but it certainly has its share of rules, regulations and norms that people feel pressured and obligated to live by.

And it is most certainly homogeneous.
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My OH, who is as sharp a cookie as ever commented on the human condition, has a theory about the Swiss, their rules and their complaints about small things.

Her theory is that life in Switzerland is so good, so perfect that the human brain cannot cope with it and that the human capacity for complaint must be filled with something. In Moscow, in Beijing, in Bangkok, in Mossside, there is plenty to fully extend the complaint gene, but here there is nothing......so people's need to complain is filled by the minor things which have been covered elsewhere ad infinitum.....minor things which don't really add up to much but seem to make people very angry.

So with apologies to George Orwell...but if he read some of the threads here over the last few days....he may have written
Curiously, is your OH Swiss?
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Old 05.10.2011, 14:40
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I think George Orwell would hate living in Switzerland (Ann Rand, too)
Not so sure about Ayn Rand. Each Swiss I have met enjoys life and nature for what they are, and care little about IMAGE (although there is a fair share of "second-handers" who care too much about what you do and love to police their neighbours). She might even enjoy a few places: http://www.mimoa.eu/projects/Switzer...etris%20School
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Old 05.10.2011, 14:56
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

Is it homogenous? I can't decide.

I think that they may actually have an ideology of homogeneity, which is different than actual homogeneity. Such an ideology serves to write a narrative of sameness, but I think there actually is the same amount of variation among people here as in other places (besides what the bleating "real Swiss" sheep are saying). I think that this may be the story that they tell about themselves, because the challenges of a Swiss nationalism are so unique (no shared language, just a shared hillbilly tradition of hating outside influence).

(And, so does the United States, by the way. The melting pot is not a metaphor than prizes those unique differences that make each of us special. Or E pluribus unum, (Out of many, one) c.f. Tolkien's One Ring)

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I think George Orwell would hate living in Switzerland (Ann Rand, too) and would probably agree with a lot of the EF's rants about life here. True, it's not a communist country, but it certainly has its share of rules, regulations and norms that people feel pressured and obligated to live by.

And it is most certainly homogeneous.
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Old 05.10.2011, 15:04
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

I do think that CH is much more homogeneous than the US. But that's just my opinion (and one based only on my observations).

But for me, homogeneity has both its good aspects (e.g. less division between classes) and its bad aspects (e.g. less multiculturalism, more xenophobia, less choices, etc.).
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Old 05.10.2011, 15:40
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

With my avatar, I feel I should respond!

Although Orwell is most famous for 1984 and Animal Farm, other novels (Keep the Aspidistra Flying – whence I take my moniker, and Coming up for Air) are more like polemics against people’s obsession with money and keeping up appearances or obeying society's rigid conventions.

So maybe he would be ranting on here…
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Old 05.10.2011, 15:47
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

I'm going off topic. I don't care, tell me off if you like but for someone to mention two of may favorite books in one place is just too tempting

All men of a certain age should read coming up for air. I read it at 14 and loved it then and now love it even more. Keep the aspidistra flying is wonderful but I found it overwhelmingly sad. Read both these books

Now, I can't for the life of me link that to Swissness but there it is
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Old 05.10.2011, 15:51
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I had to read 1984 for school. They skipped Shakespear, but I didn't manage to avoid 1984. It left me depressed for a week. Right after that one I was given Brave New World on assignment. My teatcher was a sadist.
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Old 05.10.2011, 16:10
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I had to read 1984 for school. They skipped Shakespear, but I didn't manage to avoid 1984. It left me depressed for a week. Right after that one I was given Brave New World on assignment. My teatcher was a sadist.
The idea of a Teatcher is interesting. Is this an over nurturing teacher?

Read the two novels suggested above: especially coming up for air. And if you read Animal Farm now you'll see so much more than as a youngster
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Old 05.10.2011, 16:12
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The idea of a Teatcher is interesting. Is this an over nurturing teacher?

Read the two novels suggested above: especially coming up for air. And if you read Animal Farm now you'll see so much more than as a youngster
I Liked the preface to animal farm.
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Old 05.10.2011, 16:17
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I worked in a startup which ended up just like animal farm (but in an office not on a farmyard you understand)

Mr Orwell knew too much
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Read the two novels suggested above: especially coming up for air. And if you read Animal Farm now you'll see so much more than as a youngster
I believe I have read all of his works, all of which after the age of 16. 1984 and Animal Farm still leave me depressed, even so many years later.
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I think he'd comment that...
"Early in life I had noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in The Local newspaper."

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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

Maybe we need a new poll....
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Old 05.10.2011, 16:22
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Re: What George Orwell might say should he log in tonight.......

Since I'm essentially illiterate in english, my 2 cents go to the Movie Brazil (the original cut, not the American feel good version).
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Old 05.10.2011, 17:54
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Since I'm essentially illiterate in english, my 2 cents go to the Movie Brazil (the original cut, not the American feel good version).
I dont understand. What has Brazil go tho do with this thread?
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