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Swatch watches are made/sold by a member company of the Swatch Group. The Swatch Group owns ETA, the largest maker of movements in Switzerland (actually, probably the world, although Citizen and Seiko are up there too).

ETA movements are used in a lot of low-range Swiss watches, most mid-range Swiss watches, and nearly all high end Swiss watches. (Some manufacturers finish the movements themselves and give them their own model number.)

Seiko make watches at a huge range of price points, from about $50 for a basic quartz model to many thousand dollars for the Grand Seiko range. None of these are crappy, and at their price points they can put Swiss Made watches to shame in terms of finish and accuracy.
do high end watches need to be accurate, or is it really just about image and the brand now? after all, mechanical movements must surely be obsolete in the age of radio-synchronised time and GPS satellites?

i don't have a watch and just use my mobile phone. it synchronises to GPS times ever few hours and allows my to catch trains showing up on the platform 20 seconds before the departure time (when the trains are not late). there's no way i would try to do that with a mechanical/quartz watch.
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Old 31.10.2011, 12:01
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They don't have to be accurate. My wrist feels naked without a watch.
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They don't have to be accurate. My wrist feels naked without a watch.
is the primary function of a watch now jewellery rather than as a timepiece?
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is the primary function of a watch now jewellery rather than as a timepiece?
I find it more convenient to look at my watch than my phone. I hardly check the time on my phone unless I'm fixing the time on my watch.

I think a watch is one of the few pieces of jewellery that a guy can wear and it doesn't look silly.
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Re: Swiss watches

I like to wear a watch, too, also because me wrist feels odd when I've not got one on. It's also easier to push my sleeve to one side to glance at the time rather than digging my mobile out of my bag. I try to keep it accurate for the very reason I don't miss my train, meetings, etc.

I do agree that many people these days buy watches as fashion accessories and/or status symbols.

My criteria was that my watch kept good time and had a nice clear unfussy dial. It's an Omega watch but it could just as easily have been any other which ticked those boxes.
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My watch servers it's function, which is to give me the time. While my mobile did the job for a long time, it's dependency to power outlets is kinda annoying.
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Old 31.10.2011, 12:07
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I haven't worn a watch in quite a few years (after my beloved Swatch died). I do like the convenience of having the time on my wrist, but in reality, the cellphone does the job good enough. That being said, I am always in the market for a new watch (if I like it), but it would be purchased chiefly for 'jewellery' reasons
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

No, they don't really need to be accurate, but high quality mechanical watches are generally regulated to what could be chronometer standards, which equates to a few seconds per day deviation (to sum it up).

A quartz watch is immensely more accurate than a mechanical watch, with a few seconds deviation per month being normal.

A typical mechanical watch has a frequency of 6 hertz; a quartz watch has a frequency of 32,768 hertz. The higher the frequency, the better the accuracy. An atomic clock uses a frequency of 9,192,631,770 hertz. Which is like one second in a gajillion years or something.

People buy mechanical watches for the same reason they buy uncomfortable sports cars or a $5000 turntable- they just like them .
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Old 31.10.2011, 12:17
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I should probably get a watch. It's good for teaching.
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I have a Junghans solar-powered wrist-watch that synchronizes to an ultra-precise cesium atomic clock. The signal is distributed via longwave radio.
(So I don't need a frigging power-hungry GPS receiver for it).

Not wearing a watch, though, is sort of relieving. But only if you don't carry a mobile phone either.
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I personally like wearing my Ecodrive, as I never have to charge it or change batteries(strike one for the Handy), looks good on my wrist (notice how Apple is making ipods look like watches?) and is more accessible to me on my wrist (strike two for the Handy), doesn't require a contract to maintain accurate time (strike three!), and doesn't become obsolete every 6 months when somebody releases a newer one.

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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

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I should probably get a watch. It's good for teaching.
50 pesos to whoever can guess which one MC prefers:



Cowgirl vs. IWC, a red strap and screen print vs. the pinnacle of Swiss watchmaking from the '60s.



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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

Damn, and I was wondering what happened to that red watch. Cmon, I need sumfin..more..respectable.




Actually, I still should have this somewhere..that should work, too.

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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I until recently used a Timex Ironman watch as my main timepiece, but many people kept on commenting on the sheer ugliness of the watch. It may be practical, but it doesn't go well with most outfits. People who know me well, realize that I'm a nerd. I simply couldn't settle for a simple, plain watch. Most women's watches are either way too garish, or too plain.

I decided I wanted a fashion piece, which describes me. I love skeleton watches (the kind that show internal gears). It's actually really hard to find these as a women's watch. I finally found one a few weeks back that wasn't several thousand franks. I love it!

It is a fashion piece, that does tell the time. I don't use my phone very often as a watch, because as someone already said, it's much to annoying to have to fish it out of the bag everytime. Plus I don't keep it in my pocket, because of it's awkward shape.

Obsolete? Not for me. Does it have to be Swiss? No.

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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

There is a strong symbiotic relationship between me and my mechanical watch. I rely on it for the time, and it relies on me to 'wind it up/do the funky chicken' to keep it going. I don't feel the same about digital or quartz watches.
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Re: Swiss watches (obsolete technology?)

I use mine to get out of hairy situations, unzip ladies dresses etc. Can't do that with an iPhone, yet.

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is the primary function of a watch now jewellery rather than as a timepiece?
Yes, sure. And I have no problem to admit it: I did not buy my "expensive one" in order to tell me the time - that's a silly excuse as everyone knows that a Swatch would do that more accurately. A nice watch is in my eyes the only piece of jewelry a man can wear without looking like a pimp (while some watches will do make you look like one, especially Rolex...). Just as nobody "needs" more than a VW Polo for "transportation" but still prefers to drive a Porsche do many fancy a nice watch. Yes, to show off as well ...or simply enjoy it yourself.
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do high end watches need to be accurate, or is it really just about image and the brand now? after all, mechanical movements must surely be obsolete in the age of radio-synchronised time and GPS satellites?

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Try selling a high end watch that isn't accurate!!!!!
Image and brand are very important
It is much quicker and more convenient to glance at the analogue guage of your wristwatch - fumbling a phone out of your pocket/ handbag takes time, is clumsy and it is easy to drop it.
If mechanical watch technology is obsolete why is Switzerland mechanical horological industry having another bumper year
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There is a strong symbiotic relationship between me and my mechanical watch. I rely on it for the time, and it relies on me to 'wind it up/do the funky chicken' to keep it going. I don't feel the same about digital or quartz watches.
You mean to tell me, that you're not feeling this timeless classic right here?

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Try selling a high end watch that isn't accurate!!!!!
Image and brand are very important
It is much quicker and more convenient to glance at the analogue guage of your wristwatch - fumbling a phone out of your pocket/ handbag takes time, is clumsy and it is easy to drop it.
Specially when you are playing videogames

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