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Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

Hey guys,
This is an eccentric question in the regard that it almost goes against natural logic.

Swiss watches are expensive all around the world since they are deemed the best kind of watches out there. If I bought a watch in Switzerland, would it be cheaper versus if I bought the same watch in Canada?

I'm interested in buying a Swiss watch to commemorate my transition to Switzerland for the next 2 years.

I saw a Movado watch on sale on a Online Classified Ad. It was this one specifically: http://www.movado.com/movado-collect...m-0606502.html

Brand new: $500
Used: $150 (in excellent shape! pretty much brand new from what I saw in the pictures)

I'm thinking about buying it. What do you, the Swiss, think?

What I want to know:
1. this watch and it's brand. Are they any good? Would the Swiss scoff at this watch or admire it?
2. are the world-famous Swiss watches cheaper in Switzerland? Or are they very expensive, like everything else in Switzerland (except for oil)? Essentially, would you recommend that I wait until I get to Switzerland to buy a brand new watch?
3. is $150 too much for a used Movado watch? Or is this a great deal?
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

150CAD for a watch like you describe will not be possible in Switzerland.

The Swiss like their watches however if you have a nice watch or less nice watch they don't really get too worried

By the way if you are suggesting oil as in the type you put in cars is cheap in Switzerland you are in for a shock compared to North America where they give the stuff away.
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

I was reading the Lonely Planet guide for Switzerland and they mentioned that oil was cheaper than the surrounding countries... not true?

My apologies if I made an incorrect statement.
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

Mechanical Swiss watches are expensive because expensive Swiss workers construct each watch individually, there is no mass production, only high qualty batch production. But there are many fakes in the world and you can buy an imitation Rolex for $25.

If you are going to buy a second hand Swiss watch ask for it to be accredited by a registered dealer. The dealer only has to remove the back plate and can immediately recognise an original or a fake.

Personally, I would think a $500 watch, which is as good as new, would be worth second hand a lot more than $150
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

He was originally asking for $250 but I bartered him down. Good advice though, I should definitely do that.
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I was reading the Lonely Planet guide for Switzerland and they mentioned that oil was cheaper than the surrounding countries... not true?

My apologies if I made an incorrect statement.
This used to be the case however it is no longer always correct, the strong Swiss Franc and other factors has generally pushed the cost of fuel up across Europe. However you will find the average european car much more economical then your area of the world and if you go for diesel you will get over 1000kms to a tank
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

Like most Swiss luxury goods, most are not cheaper here in Switzerland. I've bought quality Swiss watches at around 25% cheaper just over the border in Austria.

Just shop around, someone is always willing to cut you deal if they need to make their payroll at the end of the month.
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This used to be the case however it is no longer always correct, the strong Swiss Franc and other factors has generally pushed the cost of fuel up across Europe. However you will find the average european car much more economical then your area of the world and if you go for diesel you will get over 1000kms to a tank
Unless you've got a Diesel like mine (a Renault Espace) because:

a) It'll breakdown before it reaches 1000km

b) its underpowered diesel + 2 ton body = 11l/100.

You can get 1000km, but they need to be all flat motorways, and all at < 110kph. And this is still not great when you consider it's almost 150 CHF for a full tank.
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Hey guys,
This is an eccentric question in the regard that it almost goes against natural logic.

Swiss watches are expensive all around the world since they are deemed the best kind of watches out there. If I bought a watch in Switzerland, would it be cheaper versus if I bought the same watch in Canada?

I'm interested in buying a Swiss watch to commemorate my transition to Switzerland for the next 2 years.

I saw a Movado watch on sale on a Online Classified Ad. It was this one specifically: http://www.movado.com/movado-collect...m-0606502.html

Brand new: $500
Used: $150 (in excellent shape! pretty much brand new from what I saw in the pictures)

I'm thinking about buying it. What do you, the Swiss, think?

What I want to know:
1. this watch and it's brand. Are they any good? Would the Swiss scoff at this watch or admire it?
2. are the world-famous Swiss watches cheaper in Switzerland? Or are they very expensive, like everything else in Switzerland (except for oil)? Essentially, would you recommend that I wait until I get to Switzerland to buy a brand new watch?
3. is $150 too much for a used Movado watch? Or is this a great deal?
Get yourself a Japanese watch, they're much better quality.
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If you are going to buy a second hand Swiss watch ask for it to be accredited by a registered dealer. The dealer only has to remove the back plate and can immediately recognise an original or a fake.
It's not as simple as that as watches get brocken up, I know Rolex often get watches in for a service where some of the watch is Rolex & some fake.
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But there are many fakes in the world and you can buy an imitation Rolex for $89.
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Mechanical Swiss watches are expensive because expensive Swiss workers construct each watch individually, there is no mass production, only high qualty batch production. But there are many fakes in the world and you can buy an imitation Rolex for $25.
Actually, Swatch group produces the vast majority of Swiss watch movements, both mechanical and quartz, and they are produced in factories with mind boggling levels of automation. Very little is done by hand on those watches. Also, due to how the laws are set up, quite a bit is done in Asia.

In smaller batch production, it's still very much mass production. Workers have bench tops that hold 100 movements which are strung on a chain which advances with a footswitch. Each worker will do one small operation, 100 times, then the whole bench top is transferred to the next station. The instances where a single watchmaker will actually assemble an entire movement are quite the exception.

OP- Movado has an excellent pedigree and is well regarded. A long time ago they made their own movements; now it has some sort of ETA movement made by Swatch Group, the same as most other mid to mid-high end brands.
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

what's an ETA movement?
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

No one is going to be particularly impressed by your watch unless it costs more than a small car and up. So get the one you like. I have a lovely Swatch which I love. Only problem is you can't really tell the time with it. So I use my phone for that.

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what's an ETA movement?
ETA is a brand of movements made by Swatch Group. They were initially the movement making branch of Eterna, then, as time passed and movement companies were consolidated they absorbed the bulk of the major makers, the rest went out of business.
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Re: Are Swiss watches in Switzerland expensive?

i own more than a dozen of watches (Rolex, Omega, Breitling etc..) and I had the same question when I moved here. It seems you cannot get any discount from the AD or resellers here, this make the watches more expensive than abroad sometimes.
However, the good thing of living in Switzerland is that I can go visiting some watch factories and independent manufacturers and "window shopping" is eye watering!

150 bucks for a MOVADO is a honest price, go for it if you like the model. Do not expect that its value will increase in the future, this happens only for Rolex and Patek.
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