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Re: Swiss Organ Donor Card

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Re: Swiss Organ Donor Card

You can also enter your Organ Donor details in the Echo112 app (for IOS and Android) that will cause the sensor (like in stores if you go out with a tag still on an item) that is located in all main CH emergency clinics entrances to beep when they roll you through. They can then access the details on the phone without having to unlock the phone.

You can additionally enter all of your contact numbers, medical issues and allergies in the app that the medical staff can also access.

The Echo112 app was developed by several doctors at the CHUV in Lausanne. It's main feature is for calling medical help when you are out on the street and not near a fixed phone (where they have the address immediately). You tell them you are using Echo112 and they can locate you within a few meters (depending on signal strength). The original app was expanded to now work worldwide.
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Old 23.02.2016, 14:46
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As an aside: I always assumed that Switzerland and/or France wouldn't be much interested in my organs since I lived in the UK during 1980-96 and thus cannot donate blood, and that organ donation would fall under much the same rules.
Apparently not- you can't give blood (neither can we - we actually lived less than 10 miles where CJD first started)- but you can still give organs as they can be fully washed of blood before use.

Wow- had forgotten how virulent the attack re George Best was. Giving an organ to an older alcoholic who has made it clear he would not stop drinking is fine with me, as long as the liver could not be used for a young father of 3 who is a non-drinker, or some other recipient with a future. Being a celebrity shouldn't be part of the equation- and NO, and I can assure you NONE- in a transplant team will choose an older alcoholic for a liver transplant unless there are NO other recipient with better prospects on the transplant list, that is 100% sure - in a UK or CH hospital (in some countries we all know money talks first, tragically). The shortage of suitable livers is massive.

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Just ordered some cards.
Thanks for bumping this.

It's so easy here to register - yet none of my Swiss friends|family will do it - despite the fact that a family member died as a direct result of not receiving a transplant.

I'm not sure if it would have an effect if we had a "Eugene Melnyk" here in Switzerland to boost awareness.
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I know many will disagree here- but to my mind, people who refuse to be an organ donor should be at the bottom of the list for receiving an organ. If you don't want to give- then don't receive either (unless no-one else is suitable and the organ would be wasted - extremely rare indeed).
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I know many will disagree here- but to my mind, people who refuse to be an organ donor should be at the bottom of the list for receiving an organ. If you don't want to give- then don't receive either (unless no-one else is suitable and the organ would be wasted - extremely rare indeed).
I completely agree.

What I really can't get my mind around, is the opposition to the "Widerspruchslösung", i.e. one would automatically be a donor unless otherwise specified. Right now most people just don't want to think about such things, or are too lazy to get a donor card, but are not in principle opposed to donating. If the "Widerspruchslösung" became law, all those people would become donors, while still allowing anybody else to register as a non-donor. This reversal of today's legal situation seems eminently reasonable to me, but every time it's proposed it meets with weirdly fierce opposition.
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Don't get this either, at all... tragic. Wales and I believe Scotland have an opt out system but not England- and several other European countries, including Spain. Totally the way to go.

If you feel very strongly about not being a donor, just opt out ... oh, and opt out of being a recipient too.

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Re: Swiss Organ Donor Card

Does anyone know whether or not being treated for cancer, but now considered "NED" ( no evidence of disease) makes you ineligible for organ donation?
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Does anyone know whether or not being treated for cancer, but now considered "NED" ( no evidence of disease) makes you ineligible for organ donation?
The UK rules depend on the type of cancer, and whether it metastasised. http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abou...ave-had-cancer

I suspect it is a case-by-case decision even for the "OK to donate" cases, probably done after examination of the organs during retrieval attempt.
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I looked at the swiss FAQ and it said active cancer, suggesting that NED or NEAD (no evidence of active disease) might be acceptable - probably a case by case, organ specific decision.

I don't agree that someone who won't donate should be barred from being a recipient. You never know - maybe people will change their minds.
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I didn't say 'barred' - but at the bottom of the list when making a choice of recipient.
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In the US, partners of people with cancer can't donate blood, but can be organ donors.
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what on earth if the logic here?
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Swiss Organ Donor Card

Are you sure it's partners? Like sexual partners.
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In the US, partners of people with cancer can't donate blood, but can be organ donors.


The only eligibility restrictions I found here



Redcrossblood.org



Are restrictions on men who've had male sexual partners after 1977 because of the risk of HIV.

Eta : like many things in the US, though, there may be local weird restrictions.

And the difference between blood and organs.... From what I've read, you can "wash" organs, so all the offending blood is gone

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