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If you're making money using CS6 or 5 then you should be paying for it
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I hear what you are saying, however in this case most people I deal with on a day to day base use the CS suite package and the Esko artwork stuff and all the Harlequin adaptions you can eat, the colormanagment the workflows and and and. Normally I would be provided by the company I work for with all the tools needed, however I am on my own at the moment and still have to be top of the game, even more now that CS 6 is rearing it's ugly head, when somebody comes to me with a Photoshop problem in FLexo I can not say: "use GIMP" don't work like that and I do not command the 50- odd thousand needed to be kitted out.
So I crack what I can, buy what I can, beg, steal, wheedle the rest.
By the way, was the guy using fingerpaints to do the terminator'
So basically you are making profit from Adobe, professionally using their tool to make your own money.
Is that also undeclared, black work?
Anyway, it's out of the topic and I know that particular market can be very difficult, competitive and not everyone play by the book. (especially when competition is cheating and no one gives a fuss).
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now now, dont muddy the waters, it was last year and it was crap
I am sorry but I was not muddying any waters.
You did post a comment saying how open office was crap (feeding arguments for the side defending that without paid software you are all screwed).

But you failed to mention which version you were using!
Does it seems fair to you?

Look at only 1 release note from the latest Open office stable release:

And it's only from 3.3 to 3.4...:
http://www.openoffice.org/developmen...ses/3.4.0.html

New Features from the OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta

These features were already part of the OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta. The 3.4 beta was built from the OOO340 code line which was cloned from DEV300m106. This code line is the base for the Apache OpenOffice code.

Faster Startup
Startup is faster since the program now has enough initial knowledge about its components so that it doesn't have to start each of them.

Improved ODF 1.2 encryption support
The ODF 1.2 specification allows optional use of W3C-specified algorithms in the encryption (password-protection) of ODF 1.2 documents.

For Apache OpenOffice 3.4, the default "Save with Password" continues to use SHA1 digests and Blowfish encryption, the one combination that is supported for interchange of encrypted documents across ODF 1.0/1.1 and ODF 1.2 supporting application.

In addition, documents encrypted using AES256 are now recognized and decrypted when the correct password is provided.

It is also possible to select AES256 for encrypting "Save with Password" documents by setting both of these configuration options:

Set configuration option org.openoffice.Office.Common/Save/ODF/UseSHA1InODF12 to "false".
Set confguration option org.openoffice.Office.Common/Save/ODF/UseBlowfishInODF12 to "false".

A macro to set the options on or off is available at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/...ier/Encryption.

The configuration options have no effect when saving in ODF 1.1/ODF 1.0 format.

See http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1...d03-part3.html for precise details of the ODF 1.2 provisions.

Spreadsheet: TIME function returns values 00:00:00 <= x <= 23:59:59.999
The TIME spreadsheet function returns values between 00:00:00 and 23:59:59.999... inclusive and wraps values equal to or greater than 24:00:00.

Spreadsheet: Renamed "DataPilot" to "Pivot Table"
In the Spreadsheet GUI, the term "DataPilot" has been replaced with the term "Pivot Table".

PivotTable has been extended
PivotTable (formerly known as DataPilot) is no longer limited in the number of fields supported.

Spreadsheet: New CSV export option, "Quote all text cells"
Previously, in Spreadsheet CSV export, all content from text cells was quoted with the selected text delimiter. Now this is optional and happens only if the new check box "Quote all text cells" is selected. By default, the text delimiter is added only if the cell content contains the field delimiter, text delimiter or multiple lines. When a CSV file is loaded and saved again without editing the filter settings, the import option "Quoted field as text" is used for the "Quote all text cells" option. The default for "Quoted field as text" is now "off" (but if it's changed in the import dialog, that is still saved as new default in the configuration).

Improved CSV export
Better interoperability with other applications supporting the import of CSV (Comma Separated Values) files as the style for exporting strings is configurable now.

Spreadsheet: Unlimited number of fields in Pivot Table layout dialog
In the Pivot Table layout dialog, it is now possible to add more than 8 fields to the "Row Fields", "Column Fields", and "Data Fields" areas, and more than 10 fields to the "Page Fields" area.

MailMerge: Scan rows for correct type information for Text databases
The MaxRowScan setting allows the user to define how many rows should be scanned to find the correct type of a column. In the past only the first row was scanned.

Math: new option to save only used symbols for each formula
In order to save on document file size (namely in Writer documents with many formulas) there is now a new option to save only those symbols that are used in a formula. By default this option will be active. Geek info: However there is a small drawback: Previously, if you worked with different office installations, documents with formulas could be used to implicitly import ALL user-defined symbols in Math from one office installation to the next, even if none of them got used in a formula. Since now only the actually used symbols get saved, only those can be implicitly imported into a different office installation. To get the old behavior, simply turn off this new option.

Formula: Automatic baseline for Math objects
There is a new check-box named 'Math baseline alignment' available in the 'Formatting Aids' tab of the Writer and WriterWeb option pages. When this option gets checked then ALL Math OLE objects already existing in the Writer document that are anchored 'as character' (and only those with this anchor type) will be automatically aligned to match the baseline of the formula with the one of the surrounding text. Also new Math objects inserted later on will be automatically aligned as well. As long as this option is active, manual movement of Math objects that are anchored 'as character' is not possible, and thus vertical alignment in the 'Object' context dialog is now disabled as well. For new documents this option is set by default. When loading old documents it is not set. In any case, once a document gets saved again, the current value of this option will be saved along with the document. This automatic baseline alignment was implemented by Michal Spisiak as part of this year's Google Summer of Code; the mentor for this was Eric Bachard. Thanks to both of them!

Math symbol catalog now supports UTF-32 characters
Draw/Impress default enhancements:
Better defaults for Impress & Draw snap.
Changed default for "copy when moving".
Better defaults for grid settings in Impress & Draw
Better defaults for bullet spacing and indention
Animate outline shapes 'By 1st level paragraphs' as default
New default colors of drawing objects
Setting default shadow distance for shapes to 0.2cm
Enhancement to the "mouse as pen" feature in impress slideshow
Default full width for text in shapes
Change outline default bullet symbol order from 'Oo-' in 'O-O-O'
Shortcut for inserting comments changed

Better UI Defaults for Draw and Impress
See for details:

Better Bullet UI Better Grid UI

Draw/Impress: Setting pixel resolution when exporting graphics
PDF File Size Reduction
PDFs containing monochrome bitmaps are smaller now

Password entry in PDF export dialog changed
During PDF export one can enter two passwords ("open" and "permission" password). These can now be entered in one pass instead of two separate dialogs.

Base: Mozilla Address Book support removed, in favor of Seamonkey
Since the Mozilla product has long been superseded by the SeaMonkey suite, and the profile formats of both changed incompatibly, the Mozilla Address Book support in OpenOffice.org has been removed, in favor of support for the SeaMonkey address books.

Base: List box controls: "Bound field" is allowed to be 0
The "Bound field" property of a list box control, specifying which column of the list boxes result set should be used for data exchange, can have the value "0" now.

Base: object trees: selecting entries by typing their name
The tree lists in Base's main application window, now support selecting entries by typing their name.

Base: Scan rows for correct type information for Text databases
The MaxRowScan setting allows to define how many rows should be scanned to find the correct type of a column. In the past only the first row was scanned.

Base new features detailed description and Sreenshots

Stylist / Navigator / Options Dialog: selecting entries by typing their name
The tree lists in the application's Navigator, Stylist ("Styles and Formattings"), and in the options dialog, now support selecting entries by typing their name.

Chart: Resizeable Legend
The legend within charts can be resized now.

Chart: Date Axis
Date axis are available now for category charts.

Time Axis supported in Chart


Improved Printing on Unix
Printing via PDF (if the system supports it) allows object transparency to be handled directly by the printer subsystem

Print file format changes on Linux systems
Printing on Unix systems can now produce PDF files instead of PostScript.

New Gstreamer multimedia framework on Linux systems
Gstreamer is available now to use to playback multimedia content in OpenOffice documents (e.g. audio and video in Impress presentations). Note that Gstreamer (and the appropriate gst-plugins) need to be installed in system.

Enhanced RTF export
Now it supports nested tables, more character properties, sections, graphics for Wordpad, bookmarks, fields, drawings and OLE objects.

Remove binfilter export filters
Further development/bug fixes for DOCX import filter
OOo/Mac running headless as daemon
Various BugFixes
New Features for Apache OpenOffice 3.4

These features are the result of the work at Apache on OpenOffice since the OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta:

License Change
The License has changed to our simpler, non-restrictive, Apache License 2. The Apache License will make adoption, distribution and modification of the software easier for all users and developers. Of course the software remains free, and the source code with its updates will continue to be available through the Apache Software Foundation servers.

Misc. Updates.
In accordance to the new license all the software components have been updated to use licenses that are in line with ASF guidelines. No critical functionality was lost, and we did update many libraries that will work better on most situations. Many internal libraries and headers were updated with modern versions that provide the same or superior functionality. On selected platforms the "Liberation" fonts were replaced with the improved Google Chrome fonts.

We strongly recommend that all developers and distributors update to this release to avoid risks resulting from inconsistencies (IP and security issues) found in previous versions of the OpenOffice.org suite.

Calc: Faster LP solver.
The previous Linear Programming solver has been replaced with the faster and better designed CoinMP from the Computational Infrastructure for Operations Research (COIN-OR) project.

Apache Tomcat updated.
The Apache Tomcat servlet was updated from the older version 5.0.30 to version 5.5.35 which brings in years of performance and security improvements without changing the API. We plan to continue updating components without causing any regression on the current code.

Support for Line Cap Property
Now you can add a cap to the end of a line. Such caps are not only known in the ODF1 .2 standard but in HTML5 and SVG too. Also other Office Suites provide caps in different styles to be added to thick lines.

Three styles exist:

without a cap, called 'Butt' in programming and 'Flat' in UI (as in MS Office)
with a round cap, called 'Round'
with a rectangle cap, called 'Square' The property value 'Flat' corresponds to the old behavior and is now the default.



The caps are added to the lines, so that the total length of the lines increases with two-times a half line width.

Select the value from a drop-down-list in the line property dialog, just beside the settings for corner style. The new property is only available in contexts, where the corner style is active too.



If a line is dashed, the single dashes get caps too. Hereby a dot is treated as dash. You can style not only pure lines and curves, but the border of graphic objects as well.



The next example shows the new property applied to a connector. Left side without cap, in the middle with 'round' cap, and on the right side with 'square' cap.



The caps are available for 3D-objects too, when you turn on lines and make them thick. The example shows lines, which are styled to look “dotted”.

and a zoom…

Linecaps defined in svg-graphics are supported, so that those graphics look the same as they do in modern browsers.

Support for shear transformations for GraphicObjects (Blog entry)
GraphicObjects which get created when inserting graphics in Draw/Impress and Spreadsheet support now not only rotation but also shear, slant and distort. The visualization during interactions was improved, also the break for vector-based GraphicObjects to draw objects was improved. Writer has its own GraphicObjects; the ones from the other applications can be copied to it as workaround.

Support for attributes and transformations for OLEObjects (Blog entry)
OLEObjects (OLE is for Object Linking and Embedding) in Draw/Impress and Spreadsheet support now all draw attributes and geometrical transformations. They can have line style, fill style, shadow and text. They support all transformations, e.g. rotations and shear. This is handy for e.g. having a mathematical formula shown rotated by 90 degrees or adding a border to a chart. Break to draw objects is also enhanced.

Enhanced crop support for GraphicalObjects
Crop for GraphicObjects now works correctly together with horizontal and/or vertical mirroring in all applications.

Support for Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) (Blog entry)
SVG is now supported as content for GraphicObjects in all applications. The new implemented generic SVG interpreter supports SVG format 1.1. The geometric content is internally processed as vector data in all usages, e.g. PDF export and printing, which guarantees good visualization quality. SVG graphics can be broken to draw objects and be processed further. A blog entry can be found here.

Support for MultiImage in ODF
For SVG support it was necessary to allow multiple image representations for one GraphicObject to be present in the ODF file format, e.g. a pixel graphic and the original SVG is written in case of a GraphicObject with SVG content. This allows it to stay compatible with other and older ODF supporting applications. The number of images for one GraphicObject is not limited: applications using this may choose the image with the format which supports its purpose best, e.g, prefer to use a pixel graphic for ODF viewers. OpenOffice 3.4 uses a weighting function which prefers pixel images with transparency over such without and vector formats over pixel formats.

Enhanced chart visualization
The visualization quality of charts has been enhanced by using a new mechanism for more direct visualization. This increases speed, reduces memory usage and enhances chart visualization in all visualizations, including PDF export and printing.



Writer: Asian Language Word Count
The word count of Asian languages is now correct. Previous releases were counting terms instead of words when counting words of Asian language text. Notice that file word count will not be automatically updated for existing text documents. You need to make a change to the document in order to force an update of the file word count.

New regular expressions (regexp) engine
The existing regular expression engine has been replaced by the ICU engine. This solves several bugs in "Find and Replace" with the old implementation and speeds up the search.

The new engine also offers better standards compliance especially regarding Unicode, which also means that some non-standard syntax extensions like \< and \> for word boundary matching are now deprecated. For the convenience of a smooth upgrade experience they get emulated by the \b operator though.

See ICU regex syntax for expressions supported in the new regular expression engine. It is recommended to stay on the common ground though and regex flavors gives an overview where this common ground is. The modified syntax applies to macros too: regular expressions in macros that were relying on the deprecated syntax should be converted to use widely supported regex expressions.

Users of Japanese scripts should be aware that several non-trivial transliterations could behave slightly differently, especially when transliteration rules like "ProlongedSoundMark", "IterationMark", "Ignore-Width", "BaFa", "SeZe", "HyuByu", "IandEfollowedByYa" or "KiKuFollowedBySa" might be involved.

New Color Picker dialog
The old color picker which is used in the office code for over a decade has been replaced by a new, more intuitive one which offers a wide variety of color selection possibilities. This feature was developed by Christian Lippka; kudos to him for offering it under Apache License. A picture says more than words.

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Well, mp3 sound quality is crap (even at 320 kbps), so it should be cheaper!

FLAC is another matter.

Tom


I agree..........but there are lots of sites that offer .wav files etc... at the same price.

Unfortunatly the general buying public prefer disc space to sound quality.


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So yes, maybe I have no "first hand experience"?
Clearly. Your boasting wont help.

Had you been born with a competitive disadvantage, your dreams and achievements could have crashed hard at the wall called life.

Perhaps instead of collecting diplomas, you would have been forced to work your ass off after class to pay off your software licenses .. and guess what - the libraries would be closed at night!

Perhaps ... or perhaps not.

What I'm saying is that you have no first hand experience living in a reality where an EDU license for Photoshop costs more then you have available for food+accomodation+transport for a full month.

You have no first hand experience in studying at an university, where you are taught and expected to make projects with a given software package, but the school does not have the infrasturcture to accomodate all students who can't afford it.

So, it happens and it happens very often. Been there, done that - you obviously haven't.

I no longer use pirated software, but I know I did, I know very well why, and I understand why some people do it.
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Clearly. Your boasting wont help.


So, it happens and it happens very often. Been there, done that - you obviously haven't.
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Why haven't you commented on the job at the french government with Linux?
Why haven't you commented on the Graphic designer who painted a wolf illustration with gimp and in 1 hour?
Why haven't you commented on the guy who has a job with Linux only? (My colleague earns 100K+ simply after he self taught himself Linux)
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Why haven't you commented on the job at the french government with Linux?
Why haven't you commented on the Graphic designer who painted a wolf illustration with gimp and in 1 hour?
Why haven't you commented on the guy who has a job with Linux only? (My colleague earns 100K+ simply after he self taught himself Linux)
Because I was responding to an earlier post of yours, you frustrate. Groan away.
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So basically you are making profit from Adobe, professionally using their tool to make your own money.
Is that also undeclared, black work?
Anyway, it's out of the topic and I know that particular market can be very difficult, competitive and not everyone play by the book. (especially when competition is cheating and no one gives a fuss).
No! You are missing the point, I am between jobs at the moment and I use the software to keep myself sharp and ahead, even employed you still somehow need to keep up especially with updates and revisions, there is no money making involved and I am not working on the black, please do NOT accuse me of cheating, GRRRR!
The fingerpain remark was a bit snide though
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Had you been born with a competitive disadvantage, your dreams and achievements could have crashed hard at the wall called life.
I was born orphan, is that a competitive disadvantage?

The hard wall called life does not means that you are going to crash in the wall.
Some people can slow down and avoid the wall. Or use their brain and tools to crack the wall. Or jump over it.

No, I think the one missing the point is actually... you. Not even replying to questions. Not even acknowledging true facts.
Refusing to fight and accept defeating, difficulties for granted and just moan about it.

Public Libraries are even open on weekends, or evenings.

Oh and I am sorry, I forgot that "libraries are closed at nights".. Damn I am missing a competition here, the one with genuine software will be able to work all night on Microsoft Word, while I will be crying in my bed on how life is unfair and difficult.
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I am sorry but I was not muddying any waters.
You did post a comment saying how open office was crap (feeding arguments for the side defending that without paid software you are all screwed).

But you failed to mention which version you were using!
Does it seems fair to you?

Look at only 1 release note from the latest Open office stable release:
by the w95 comment i would say so, its all relative and if you really think im going to read through all that dross then you are sadly mistaken.

at the end of the day you have a strong opinion on the use of paid/copied software however calling someone a prick isnt too nice though.

all written on my pirated windows 7 ultimate OS, running pirated office, pirated anti virus, and pirated everything else thats linked to my jailbreak iphone accessing the forum via pirated tapatalk

oh dear im going to hell, but as im an atheist thats a contradiction anyway
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No! You are missing the point, I am between jobs at the moment and I use the software to keep myself sharp and ahead, even employed you still somehow need to keep up especially with updates and revisions, there is no money making involved and I am not working on the black, please do NOT accuse me of cheating, GRRRR!
The fingerpain remark was a bit snide though
I said the "competition" are cheating... are you the competition?

Let me rephrase: when your competition are cheating and no one give a damn about it.

I've knew many design companies hiring "under the table" some people to provide contributions (such as vector graphics illustrations)...Hiring without asking anything about licence, or hiring in cheaper countries.
What means for you is that not everyone is playing "by the book", giving the honest one a competitive disadvantage... Probably justifying the use of cracked software.
Hey after all the investment will be difficult to cover if companies mainly hire your competition!
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I never went to college or university that didn't stop me from learning, when I first entered my profession as a tester over 6 years ago all I ever worked with was commercial tools etc. In the past year I got involved in opensource tools and that landed me my job here working for one of the most well know companies in the world.

I've never had the money to purchase a commercial licence for a test tool but that didn't stop me from reading up on tools and joining forums and then applying what I had learnt in work to further develop my skills and diversify my skill set.
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Arg ! I can't take it anymore ... this is too good of a set up...


Yo ho, Yo ho, a pirate's life for me

We're rascals, scoundrels, villains, and knaves
Drink up me hearties, yo ho
We're devils and black sheep, and really bad eggs

Drink up me hearties, yo ho !



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I was born orphan, is that a competitive disadvantage?
Comparing to being an orphan in say, Ukraine? Answer yourself.
But otherwise, yes.

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The hard wall called life does not means that you are going to crash in the wall.
Some people can slow down and avoid the wall. Or use their brain and tools to crack the wall. Or jump over it.
And this is exactly what peopile are doing. Cracking the wall. Do you seriously think anybody is using Matlab for fun? The OP is going on an internship and I'm quite sure he used the software for school.

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No, I think the one missing the point is actually... you. Not even replying to questions. Not even acknowledging true facts.
Refusing to fight and accept defeating, difficulties for granted and just moan about it.
Seriously? A work with Linux in France? Or painting a wolf with GIMP? Sorry but you didn't prove anything.

Linux is the exception, not the norm - therefore the disadvantage is in plain numbers.

Graphic design at an office? They except efficiency, not circus skills. If they use Photoshop, you are at a disadvantage if you don't know it. Plain and simple

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Public Libraries are even open on weekends, or evenings.
Sorry, but again - you have no clue about infrastructure in underpriviledged countries.

The system is flawed. In my opinion, software for eductational purposes should be free for all, and this is the only way to guarantee a fair start for everybody.

In the end, software manufacturers make money on commercial licenses and educating more people to use THEIR software can only bring profits.
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Sorry, but no.

Good luck job hunting with documented profficient skills in Linux, Emacs and graphic design with GIMP.

There are very good reasons why the big name software is THE industry standard, while freeware isn't.

Clearly you have no first hand experience in what you're talking about.

Libraries and computer facilities in poor countries - right ... they are already running Linux with freeware or in a best case outdated versions of licensed software. 21st century design in Autocad R11 anyone? Good luck!

You're most likely also missing the point, that private illegal use of most software such as Matlab, Solidworks etc. only means that there will be more demand for it in the industry, where piracy is outlawed.
I arrived in Switzerland with no formal or documented qualifications in 2007 (except for what I wrote in my CV). Linux working experience landed me a good job. I don't think Switzerland qualifies as a poor country

Since I started working in computers in the late 80's until arriving in Switzerland I never owned nor used for work any Microsoft products.

I was offered a job where I now use a Windows desktop/laptop as a tool for administering Unix/Linux systems. I still use Linux at home as I have since the late 90's.

Open source software! Your digital life depends on it. You just don't know what you are talking about.

Until this day I have never bought any software. If someone wants me to use proprietary software, they can pay for it.

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The system is flawed. In my opinion, software for eductational purposes should be free for all, and this is the only way to guarantee a fair start for everybody.
Well, software is not created out of the blue, it's often developed through an expensive process which has to be somehow financed, unless it is created by voluntary people and then released under an open source license.
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Well, software is not created out of the blue, it's often developed through an expensive process which has to be somehow financed, unless it is created by voluntary people and then released under an open source license.
This is absolutely true, but there is a clear line between educational and commercial use. If more people know and want to use a given tool, then the demand for commercial licenses is also likely to increase.
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Sorry, but again - you have no clue about infrastructure in underpriviledged countries.
All my colleagues in India, with whom I spent nearly 4 months every day, for quite long business hours, have all self though themselves Linux.

They all had relatively well paid jobs (for India). They had also very good skills.
They were all from poor families and a shitty class (ie they are all considered like 2nd class citizens).

True, none of them are wankers...erm I mean managers, but all have a good job where they live.


Anyway, you are convinced that without paid software we are all screwed.
So it's not point to bother contradicting you.
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Comparing to being an orphan in say, Ukraine? Answer yourself.
But otherwise, yes.



And this is exactly what peopile are doing. Cracking the wall. Do you seriously think anybody is using Matlab for fun? The OP is going on an internship and I'm quite sure he used the software for school.



Seriously? A work with Linux in France? Or painting a wolf with GIMP? Sorry but you didn't prove anything.

Linux is the exception, not the norm - therefore the disadvantage is in plain numbers.

Graphic design at an office? They except efficiency, not circus skills. If they use Photoshop, you are at a disadvantage if you don't know it. Plain and simple
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Regarding old vs new versions of libraries, applications and so on, I believe that it makes more sense to master the concepts that will last, rather than technologies that will be completely useless in 1 or 2 years. The people who is able to understand that is very likely to catch up easily with any new versions of whatever they need.
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