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Re: The 2nd Amendment as explained by a Brit

And in Saudi, the woman don't have the right to bare arms.
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Indeed, why would anyone care about another country's domestic policy? I for one couldn't care less about the leadership regimes in Afghanistan or Iraq...
Oh dear. Do I really have to explain difficult concepts like democracy, and comparisons between domestic policies in dictatorships that have decided international repercussions and domestic policies that are continously upheld by voters through elected representatives and have little if any effect internationally other than causing pantybunched brits to pontificate endlessly about it, and, apparently, make eye-wateringly uninformed comparisons between the US and Iraq/Afghanistan? Really?
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Old 06.12.2012, 10:27
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Oh dear. Do I really have to explain difficult concepts like democracy, and comparisons between domestic policies in dictatorships that have decided international repercussions and domestic policies that are continously upheld by voters through elected representatives and have little if any effect internationally other than causing pantybunched brits to pontificate endlessly about it, and, apparently, make eye-wateringly uninformed comparisons between the US and Iraq/Afghanistan? Really?
think you may have missed the subtle sarcasm in the first post...
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Oh dear. Do I really have to explain difficult concepts like democracy, and comparisons between domestic policies in dictatorships that have decided international repercussions and domestic policies that are continously upheld by voters through elected representatives and have little if any effect internationally other than causing pantybunched brits to pontificate endlessly about it, and, apparently, make eye-wateringly uninformed comparisons between the US and Iraq/Afghanistan? Really?
Sorry, my bad. I forgot America was land of the free and thus has the remit, granted by the Almighty himself, to police the world.

Heaven forbid that these terrible little sovereign nations inhabited by savages could decide what's best for themselves.
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Come off it. He's a slimey, nasty, vindictive, opinionated little toad. Typical journalist.
You mean like Brian Deer from the vaccine/autism thread???? Creep if ever there was one!

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Oh dear. Do I really have to explain difficult concepts like democracy, and comparisons between domestic policies in dictatorships that have decided international repercussions and domestic policies that are continously upheld by voters through elected representatives and have little if any effect internationally other than causing pantybunched brits to pontificate endlessly about it, and, apparently, make eye-wateringly uninformed comparisons between the US and Iraq/Afghanistan? Really?

You should know by now that Brits (and other Europeans) have never got their heads round the fact that they don't rule the world any more, and can't resist any opportunity to put lesser peoples right. To a Brit (or any other European), there is little difference between an Afghan and a Yank. You're all benighted foreigners who need showing the right way to do things (as if nearly half a millennium of colonial mismanagement hasn't taught you all everything you need to know already).

You're from the most powerful country in the world. Ignore the snipers and whiners as you'd ignore a mosquito buzzing round your ear.
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Sorry, my bad. I forgot America was land of the free and thus has the remit, granted by the Almighty himself, to police the world.
...or we're stuck with the mess left behind by centuries of European colonialism?

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Heaven forbid that these terrible little sovereign nations inhabited by savages could decide what's best for themselves.
Yes, Heaven, and again, European colonial powers that did forbid these "sovereign nations" from deciding "what's best for themselves," at least until the colonial powers ran out of money to fund the control of these outlying provinces.

America may be stirring the pot, but let's not forget that the pot was on the stove for a long time before the US spoon went in.
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America may be stirring the pot, but let's not forget that the pot was on the stove for a long time before the US spoon went in.
But once the American spoon went in, there was nothing left in the pot
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But once the American spoon went in, there was nothing left in the pot
Yes, because the Europeans didn't exploit less-developed regions and take resources for themselves (emptying the pot)? IIRC, the "pot" looked pretty empty ereabouts 1946, but somebody helped refill it...
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Sorry, my bad. I forgot America was land of the free and thus has the remit, granted by the Almighty himself, to police the world.

Heaven forbid that these terrible little sovereign nations inhabited by savages could decide what's best for themselves.
I have no idea where you're going with this or how you arrived at these arguments that have absolutely nothing to do with anything that's been discussed up to this point.

Edit- Piers, is that you?
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Old 06.12.2012, 11:08
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Yes, because the Europeans didn't exploit less-developed regions and take resources for themselves (emptying the pot)? IIRC, the "pot" looked pretty empty ereabouts 1946, but somebody helped refill it...
C'mon, let's be objective for once.

We Brits introduced curry to India and taught the Chinese to drink tea. We invented the Internet and kittens and taught unicorns to dance under rainbows.

All this is proven fact. You can read about it on the Internet as soon as I've recovered my Wikipedia login.

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C'mon, let's be objective for once.

We Brits introduced curry to India and taught the Chinese to drink tea. We invented the Internet and kittens and taught unicorns to dance under rainbows.

All this is proven fact. You can read about it on the Internet as soon as I've recovered my Wikipedia login.

Wait... I thought Al Gore invented the Internet?
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Wait... I thought Al Gore invented the Internet?
Yes but the Brits invented Al Gore.
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I have no idea where you're going with this or how you arrived at these arguments that have absolutely nothing to do with anything that's been discussed up to this point.

Edit- Piers, is that you?
Profound apologies, I'll get back on topic.

Although I've not read the entire US constitution, I am somewhat familiar with the second amendment from my time working on a Summer Camp in deepest darkest Maine. Here shooting class was conducted by Big John. Big John was veteran and wore T-Shirts adorned with Eagles. I don't think he was actually employed by the Camp, but he was screwing the Camp owner Penny so I guess that kinda qualified him to take shooting class.

Shooting class with Big John was an experience I'm sure the kids will remember with fond memories until their dying day. I think the parts where he would ask them to imagine they were GI's in Iraq were the best. He would also hold shooting competitions for the children and would present T-Shirts with Eagles printed on them as prizes. Oh how their faces lit up with sheer joy when he presented them with their prizes. A look of joy only surpassed by Big John himself when he had two dozen kids laid out on their fronts in front of him.

Big John would often tell me the benefits of the second amendment and went into great detail of his vast arms collection. He even asked me if I was "packing" and, when I said no, offered use of his handgun for the remainder of the Camp. He only seemed slightly bemused when I declined his offer by saying I'd risk my chances that the 7 miles to the nearest settlement might by enough to deter any armed assault on a children's Summer Camp.

I guess it could be argued that a document that was drawn up over 200 years ago may not have the same relevance in today's society. But who needs to form arguments when you have a 200 year old piece of paper to masturbate over? But hey, as a European, who am I to have an opinion on US domestic policy.
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I guess it could be argued that a document that was drawn up over 200 years ago may not have the same relevance in today's society. But who needs to form arguments when you have a 200 year old piece of paper to masturbate over? But hey, as a European, who am I to have an opinion on US domestic policy.
it's not the same document as it was 200 years ago, and the existing view on the Second Amendment is a fiction of just the past couple of years following some relatively landmark Supreme Court cases.
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Profound apologies, I'll get back on topic.

Although I've not read the entire US constitution, I am somewhat familiar with the second amendment from my time working on a Summer Camp in deepest darkest Maine. Here shooting class was conducted by Big John. Big John was veteran and wore T-Shirts adorned with Eagles. I don't think he was actually employed by the Camp, but he was screwing the Camp owner Penny so I guess that kinda qualified him to take shooting class.

Shooting class with Big John was an experience I'm sure the kids will remember with fond memories until their dying day. I think the parts where he would ask them to imagine they were GI's in Iraq were the best. He would also hold shooting competitions for the children and would present T-Shirts with Eagles printed on them as prizes. Oh how their faces lit up with sheer joy when he presented them with their prizes. A look of joy only surpassed by Big John himself when he had two dozen kids laid out on their fronts in front of him.

Big John would often tell me the benefits of the second amendment and went into great detail of his vast arms collection. He even asked me if I was "packing" and, when I said no, offered use of his handgun for the remainder of the Camp. He only seemed slightly bemused when I declined his offer by saying I'd risk my chances that the 7 miles to the nearest settlement might by enough to deter any armed assault on a children's Summer Camp.

I guess it could be argued that a document that was drawn up over 200 years ago may not have the same relevance in today's society. But who needs to form arguments when you have a 200 year old piece of paper to masturbate over? But hey, as a European, who am I to have an opinion on US domestic policy.
That sounds like a pretty awesome summer camp, I spent time at one in Maine, as well as New Hampshire.

Look, I think guns, while admittedly fun to shoot and perfectly legitimate in terms of hunting, target shooting and the like, are pretty stupid. I think the rabid defense of the 2nd amendment is a joke clung to mostly by racists and people with micropenises, but it's entirely our problem. There's a million more pressing issues out there for Europeans to get riled up about, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with a democracy deciding everyone should have the right to own a gun, even if I happen to be in the minority when it comes to that opinion. Let's not pretend that a bunch of hicks with guns is some horrific human rights violation that needs to be looked at on par with state sanctioned killing of women for trying to get an education, infanticide and goverment sponsered rape campaigns.
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"Of course it's clear, every American has the right to hang a pair of bear arms on their wall, how could that possibly be misconstrued?" - Family Guy

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What a good post to make it 3,000
Piers Morgan isn't all bad,...
No really - he is. If he seems to have a view that is decent and honourable, I'd bet money on it being cynically adopted.
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Re: The 2nd Amendment as explained by a Brit

If instead of bullets, guns shot Camel non-filtered cigarettes, Switzerland would be on board immediately. Of course then AussieSwiss would have more ammunition for his own pet peeve...

sorry, just a random thought, since I'm trying to sit this one out.
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