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barbecue grill [Where can I buy one?]

Hello outdoor grillmasters...where near Zurich or Lucerne is a good place to buy a gas grill? There doesn't seem to be specialty stores for this--I'm looking for a really nice quality stainless portable grill and will spend up to 1000 CHF for it. Any tips? I found a website with the brand Grillmaster...they look nice but since I can't actually see them in person i don't know the quality. Any tips will help. thanks everyone.
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Old 15.03.2008, 10:03
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Re: barbecue grill

you might find you're a little early but the Coop Do-It and Migros House & Garden will at some point have a huge array of grills available.
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Old 15.03.2008, 10:03
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Re: barbecue grill

Hi

Migros have their grills in already but I think Grill Season starts in May so more shops will have them in then

We have just ordered a stainless steel weber gas grill from Fust - they have the brochures now just not the actual products.

It might be worth going to have a look at whats in first then looking in the brochures if you can't find the one you want - as most people have balconys they tend to only get the smaller BBQ's in the stores

Its such a lovely day - if ours was here now we'd be having BBQ for lunch!
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Re: barbecue grill

Thank you...then perhaps I am just too early. There aren't a huge array in the superstores--a few flimsy ones is all that we have seen.

I am from S.Cal and I would just love to grill today! I agree!

Thanks!
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Re: barbecue grill

thanks Lob. I think I'm too early. Wishing the winter away!
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Thank you...then perhaps I am just too early. There aren't a huge array in the superstores--a few flimsy ones is all that we have seen.

I am from S.Cal and I would just love to grill today! I agree!

Thanks!
I could lend you mine. I have other plans today...
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Re: barbecue grill

Has anyone tried to make BBQ, like they do in the south, and give it to the Swiss?
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Re: barbecue grill

the actual grill or the food from it?

We were planning on inviting the neighbours round to ours for one when we get it - a sort of apero - is that sort of thing frowned upon from the Swiss? I thought it would be a good way to get to know them but if its going to make them think we are mad foreigners I better rethink
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Re: barbecue grill

The Swiss are big grillers. They have an annual competition and my neighbour is a member of the championship-winning team.

Your neighbours will be very happy, trust me
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Re: barbecue grill

Try landi they usually have a big selection later in the year. If they don't have them in stock at your local yet ask at the counter, they have a massive catalogue of all sorts of goods that they order in specially. I love Landi

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The Swiss are big grillers. They have an annual competition and my neighbour is a member of the championship-winning team.

Your neighbours will be very happy, trust me
Oh no - I'll have to brush up then - who know what they will think of the burn offerings we serve up....at least in the UK we could ply everyone with drink so they didn't notice...might have to try that here too....although come to think of it that may be the reason everything looks (and tastes) of charcoal....
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Re: barbecue grill

You want a Weber. Your perfectly cooked and unburnt BBQ will thank you every time.

If you are looking for a portable unit, they make a "Q" model in several portable sizes (which will also work well on the balcony). See them here :

http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/2007/q/Q300.aspx

You can buy them at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.de/Weber-Q-200/dp/B000NISCWC

Also available in Zurich:

http://www.keiser-shop.ch/Framehaushalt.htm

As you see, you do not need to spend CHF 1000 (which will buy you a decent grill for your house). Finally, although I am a client of Fust for certain things, their prices on Weber's are way too high.
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Re: barbecue grill

Umm, why do you want a BBQ? If merely for the convenience of cooking outside and not traipsing back to the kitchen, then I can see why gas is preferable.

If you want grilled food BBQ style, gas is terrible. It does nothing to improve the flavour and you may as well save a wedge of money and use the kitchen.

BBQ'd food tastes so good because charcoal gives off it's distinctive 'aroma' and a drier heat than gas, which is moist. Take the Pepsi challenge and cook some lamb using both methods and see what I mean.

Gas BBQ's are a con.
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Re: barbecue grill

Just been in Jumbo and they have a large array of gas and charcoal barbecues on sale, they have several huge big gas barbecues also
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Re: barbecue grill

I have to echo that charcoal grills and webers in particular make the real grilling experience. The weber charcoal grills do great hamburgers and such without flare ups because you close the top limiting the available oxygen. You can easily do roasts on them (I do a turkey on thanksgiving), and with practice you can do a slow smoke on them as well. I have the one with a gas starter, so it is easy to get the charcoal going.

Sorry if I sound like an advertisement, but I've been cooking on mine for 15 years and will never go back to gas.
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If you want grilled food BBQ style, gas is terrible. It does nothing to improve the flavour and you may as well save a wedge of money and use the kitchen.

BBQ'd food tastes so good because charcoal gives off it's distinctive 'aroma' and a drier heat than gas, which is moist.
I almost "groaned" you for that comment.

As a barbecue purist, a Canadian who grills 365 days a year, rain, snow, sleet or hail, there is no substitute for gas. A horse and buggy may be a more distinctive and purist means of transportation and there be people who long for the days of the steamliner but I prefer the ease of spark-fired-internal-combustion - be that for cars or grills.

*pedant mode on* Webers do prevent flare ups (at least the gas models) with the use of the patented flavorizer bars, not through limiting O2 (which will also limit fire...). The bars prevent the juicy, oily, juices from dripping onto the burners and flaring up (which burns your food). Hence my comment in my original post re "unburnt food". *pedant mode off*

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If you want grilled food BBQ style, gas is terrible. It does nothing to improve the flavour.Gas BBQ's are a con.
Now that's what I would have thought. But when I was in Australia everybody used gas BBQs.
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Re: barbecue grill

I'm the Barbeking (tm) and recommend a Weber for the best results, also don't forget to use wet woodchips for extra smokey flavor.

Why don't you BBQ the Swiss way? I do this all the time:

Simply head to a nearby public grill, you can find them in most Swiss parks and wooded areas. I live in Zürich and usually meet my friends in the Irchel park where there are several public grills (I think 6-7 of them) where the Swiss go Brätle in the summertime. Usually the park wardens take care there are logs available for burning so you just gotta bring the food and drink and a newspaper for lighting.
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goods that they order in specially. I love Landi
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Red Necks Rule round here! And we don't need permission from the WD for a Guinness trip with the boys
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