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As you well know, I am far from having a crew-cut (though I had them as a child).

In fact, it's now below shoulder length.

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Well Tom I was referring to the negative responses actually. Not the whole of the EF is conservative, I know that first hand. It's just the mid life crisis comments are a little much when if people knew me, like yourself, you would know that is entirely not why I am asking these questions.
I work in a place where customers come in, and do not look at the menu, but tell me to surprise them. They know my demeanor, my attitude, my professionalism with the food, my creativity, and for those people it is not a problem. I can see from some of the reactions on here if presented with the lead singer of Korn at their table they would freak out. But these exaggerations are not at all valid when I would be at work or going to interviews as I mostly wear suits on these occasions. So relevant feedback is requested. Not rasta comments on a look I would never have.
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Old 02.02.2015, 21:15
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Yeah...
If you don't look anything like this guy..

..and not even him has a long hair any more...
This kinda does look like Tom.
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

If you can get your dreads neatly out of the way for an interview, like in low pony tail or something, it could be ok with a suit. And, for cooking with a toque. It's a look, and if you're comfortable with it, perhaps you can pull it off.

I don't know anyone with dreads, although i once sat on a crowded train next to a skanky guy with dreads, a sportcoat, no shirt and a kilt. This is not a look you aspire to, i imagine. My practical question is - How do you keep them clean? Does your head start to smell greasy after a while? If you'd like to do it, why not....as long as the cleanliness issue can be dealt with....i wouldn't want to hire anyone to handle food with a stinky head.
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Old 02.02.2015, 21:43
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If you can get your dreads neatly out of the way for an interview, like in low pony tail or something, it could be ok with a suit. And, for cooking with a toque. It's a look, and if you're comfortable with it, perhaps you can pull it off.

I don't know anyone with dreads, although i once sat on a crowded train next to a skanky guy with dreads, a sportcoat, no shirt and a kilt. This is not a look you aspire to, i imagine. My practical question is - How do you keep them clean? Does your head start to smell greasy after a while? If you'd like to do it, why not....as long as the cleanliness issue can be dealt with....i wouldn't want to hire anyone to handle food with a stinky head.
Well these ones are washable. Like normal shampoo. My skin can't handle anything too greasy. I want them to look neat, and it is why I looked into all sorts of different approaches to getting them done. I have tried to google exactly what I want to do, but apparently what we are going to for is kind of rare so far.
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Old 02.02.2015, 21:51
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This kinda does look like Tom.
At least compared to any of the dread-lock photos and you!

However, the beard and sides are more or less correct.

Hair/beard color as well (i.e. grey only in the beard)

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Old 02.02.2015, 21:56
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

I think dreads look great on white men, but not as cool as a headdress of eagle feathers, a nice bindi or a coolie hat.

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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Wow, this thread has continued for some time now. Confloozed, as a woman I am impressed that you have the patience to not have either proceeded with the dreads or the haircut now that it has been 2 1/2 months since your OP. I have been known to wake up one day completely sick of my hairstyle and then mope for the week or so that it takes to secure a stylist appointment in order to change it!

Obviously it will not be possible for you to gauge how much business you might possibly lose in the future by having dreads. Nor will you be able to measure how much extra income you might pull in by not having them.

As such, just get the dreads if that is what you really want. And it seems to me that you do really want them since you have spent a lot of time in this thread defending them, their cleanliness, their ability to be tidily kept, and how they suit your personality.

Dreads are indeed a "statement," though, as Smoky indicated, and whatever "statement" they make to potential clients will be out of your control.
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Old 02.02.2015, 22:05
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

http://dreadnaughtdarling.com/wp-con...aris-Angle.jpg

It's not exactly it, but a better example of what I mean. With the exception that it will not be a full head like that one. It will be a mix of straight hair and dreads.

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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Now, perhaps if you look like her:



you just might get away with it.

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Now, perhaps if you look like her:

you just might get away with it.

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He actually looks just like that...well, almost.
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He actually looks just like that...well, almost.
Well, at least the hair color is correct.

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http://dreadnaughtdarling.com/wp-con...aris-Angle.jpg

It's not exactly it, but a better example of what I mean. With the exception that it will not be a full head like that one. It will be a mix of straight hair and dreads.
From that link I get a photo of a bowl of melted chocolate and a blog about a coffee shop in Oregon.
I assume you're not just going to pour chocolate over your head.
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Old 02.02.2015, 22:41
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Well Tom I was referring to the negative responses actually. Not the whole of the EF is conservative, I know that first hand. It's just the mid life crisis comments are a little much when if people knew me, like yourself, you would know that is entirely not why I am asking these questions.
I work in a place where customers come in, and do not look at the menu, but tell me to surprise them. They know my demeanor, my attitude, my professionalism with the food, my creativity, and for those people it is not a problem. I can see from some of the reactions on here if presented with the lead singer of Korn at their table they would freak out. But these exaggerations are not at all valid when I would be at work or going to interviews as I mostly wear suits on these occasions. So relevant feedback is requested. Not rasta comments on a look I would never have.
Can you pm me where you work? Im really curious as to what place you can actually talk to the cook. Nowhere in Geneva you can tell the chef to suprise you!
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

I'd have no issue hiring you for a corporate event if I knew you/you came recommended by someone I trust/ I liked how you work, etc. - dreads or no dreads. I would have no problem "justifying" my choice to my boss either.
I know not everyone is open minded or "adventurous", so there might be some resistance in certain corporate environments.

In my field, in 8+ years of work across the world, I met only one professional with dreads. I can tell you that dreads were not an obstacle in his work, he was very sought-after (to be fair, he was some kind of math wizard) and, judging by the break room gossips, he was quite popular with the ladies too. Never verified that myself though, dreads are not my thing and I don't..."mess" with the crew.
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Can you pm me where you work? Im really curious as to what place you can actually talk to the cook. Nowhere in Geneva you can tell the chef to suprise you!
That's strange. You never ask to speak to the Chef when you are eating out? It's how I have gotten to know folks over the years. Both from them asking to see me and vice versa. I mean in general random strangers do not come in ask for this, although from time to time they do. Asking for the surprise. Asking to see the cook who cooked their food is fairly standard thing in my eyes if you do something exceptional. But I have a long range of cooking experience and techniques. So, when people are not at all interested in eating another basic Swiss menu, and they know I am back there and can whip up a mole, a souffle, or make gelatinized argula sushi pops on the fly, they come and see me.

I was in LA a few months back and asked a short order cook to make an omelette with hash browns, stuff it into a large tortilla with a generous amount of guacamole, and deep fry it and he had no problem doing that for me, so I don't see the difference in making Foie Gras Burgers on brioche with confiture either in return. A faux PB&J as it were.
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Old 03.02.2015, 07:46
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That's strange. You never ask to speak to the Chef when you are eating out? It's how I have gotten to know folks over the years. Both from them asking to see me and vice versa. I mean in general random strangers do not come in ask for this, although from time to time they do. Asking for the surprise. Asking to see the cook who cooked their food is fairly standard thing in my eyes if you do something exceptional. But I have a long range of cooking experience and techniques. So, when people are not at all interested in eating another basic Swiss menu, and they know I am back there and can whip up a mole, a souffle, or make gelatinized argula sushi pops on the fly, they come and see me.

I was in LA a few months back and asked a short order cook to make an omelette with hash browns, stuff it into a large tortilla with a generous amount of guacamole, and deep fry it and he had no problem doing that for me, so I don't see the difference in making Foie Gras Burgers on brioche with confiture either in return. A faux PB&J as it were.
No never. Back home you dont even see the chef. The kitchen is in a separated enclosed area. It was pretty surprising to be actually able to see the kitchen here
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I'd have no issue hiring you for a corporate event if I knew you/you came recommended by someone I trust/ I liked how you work, etc. - dreads or no dreads. I would have no problem "justifying" my choice to my boss either.
a) what industry are you in?
b) are you customer facing or are you talking about internal corporate events like a team dinner?
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From that link I get a photo of a bowl of melted chocolate and a blog about a coffee shop in Oregon.
I assume you're not just going to pour chocolate over your head.
Well, I wouldn't be so sure....

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As I said before, I know many professional chefs with dreds, all kept under a toque. I have long hair and it is not the norm in the kitchen, I also keep it under wraps. I think the bigger issue I would have is if I decided to put them blue. Last summer I had my hair blue and then green for a couple months. My boss had a good laugh and told me to bag it up. During street parade I had feathers woven in as well I couldn't remove in enough time before service. Again under the toque no one sees.
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Dreads are indeed a "statement," though, as Smoky indicated, and whatever "statement" they make to potential clients will be out of your control.
What would that be?
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I have seen them combed out in front of me. <snip>
I would absolutely not count on that. I had to cut my hair VERY short (i.e. - 3cm or so) when I got rid of mine. If you're not prepared to go down that road, after about 3 months, you will seriously regret it. Any dreads that you do manage to comb out (i.e. - that have not thoroughly fused into one solid core (which is what they're supposed to do)) will be so incredibly painful to do so that you'll cut them out. And if you still proceed, your hair will be irrevocably ruined.

Sorry, mate, just trying to tell you how it is.. Eyes wide open and all that. Still wish you the best of luck; wish I could get away with wearing dreads still.
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I don't actually do much corporate catering. I do mainly creative events to be honest. Even if at one event we hund some chandeliers under the trees once. Ok. Fine. I was wondering how professional or not they look.

The crew cut EF section has responded. Showing me they would reject it. Understandable. But at the moment, most any work I get is on referral. So will that change if people see me different? We'll find out.
Although I`m an "old lady" now, I was once young, and have no problems with "statements" - like hanging chandeliers from trees and hiring a dreadlocked chef - you sound a real original character, I must say!

But unfortunately, those with money to hire catering chefs are not usually ones who spent their youth doing wacko stuff - they were more likely to be working their butts off and pretty straight laced, and all they really know about dreadlocks is they belong on "long-haired old hippies and dope smokers".

To prove to you I don`t think like a fuddy-duddy of the "crew cut" section, I offer a photo of myself in my hey-day of ballroom dancing(!) Needless to say, the shaved head did not "fit" on a competition dance floor ....... to attain qualification standards I wore a wig to impress the judges. One simply has to "fit in" if one wants to get anywhere in life.
If I were not wanting to improve my dance qualifications, the shaved head could have been worn on the floor - and I would have been ignored.

This is a still from a music video (I omit my dance partner as he wore only body paint!)

So ... if your clientele is NOT corporate, and you are well-known enough to be able to do your own thing, go ahead and do it!
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