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Pixie B 25.06.2015 16:18

Washing machine question
 
I have a V Zug Adora L machine, it's relatively new. The last load of laundry I did I noticed that the door hadn't automatically opened after the cycle had finished like it usually does, I assumed it had just got stuck (it opened when I pressed the door open button).

This morning I closed the door on a load and the digital display message read "H 60".

First I checked the manual online but the H60 message was not listed in the troubleshooting, so I phoned V Zug and they told me they did not know what the message meant. They have advised me to contact the management of the apartment.

I'd like to know if anyone knows what the message means before I do this. There appears to be nothing wrong with the machine, I have maintained it properly and it is new, so my instinct tells me it's just something and nothing. But I don't want to just go and ignore it in case I am wrong.

Any ideas??:)

Edit, have not tried to start the cycle just to see if it works, I wanted to know what H60 meant first

Winterthur 25.06.2015 19:43

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http://www.elektroshop24.ch/v-zug/wa...tung_v-zug.pdf

I found this pdf here for you. H60 means: too much washing runs with low temperature, which might leave hygiene problems in the long run. Please use higher temperature next time.

Twinklestar 25.06.2015 20:01

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Originally Posted by Pixie B (Post 2410470)
I have a V Zug Adora L machine, it's relatively new. The last load of laundry I did I noticed that the door hadn't automatically opened after the cycle had finished like it usually does, I assumed it had just got stuck (it opened when I pressed the door open button).

This morning I closed the door on a load and the digital display message read "H 60".

First I checked the manual online but the H60 message was not listed in the troubleshooting, so I phoned V Zug and they told me they did not know what the message meant. They have advised me to contact the management of the apartment.

I'd like to know if anyone knows what the message means before I do this.
There appears to be nothing wrong with the machine, I have maintained it properly and it is new, so my instinct tells me it's just something and nothing. But I don't want to just go and ignore it in case I am wrong.

Any ideas??:)

Edit, have not tried to start the cycle just to see if it works, I wanted to know what H60 meant first

Hi, we have a V Zug unimatic S not quite the same, but I had a quick look in our handbook and for ours H 60 is a recommendation to do a Hygiene cycle.
They suggest to do the next wash at at least 60C or take out the to be washed clothes and press the H button, on ours it's on the top left hand corner, it's quite big and drawn as a square with a circle of little circles around the H, hope that description means something.
It only takes 23 minutes to do its thing. It's quite good to do it from time to time as it heats up a small amount of water to 80C and gives it a good steaming inside to get rid of any muck and grime in there. I am sure that unless an alarm goes off you will be perfectly okay to keep using it. Good luck.

Pixie B 26.06.2015 08:05

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Wonderful you guys, thankyou so much!:D:D

This makes sense as I nearly always wash at 30 or 40. Had it in my head that I'm being eco :o

Guest 26.06.2015 08:24

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Originally Posted by Pixie B (Post 2410713)
Wonderful you guys, thankyou so much!:D:D

This makes sense as I nearly always wash at 30 or 40. Had it in my head that I'm being eco :o

I'm not critising you in the least here Pixie B....

This is exactly how people get suckered into thinking they are saving money/planet and being ecological when in fact it does as much harm as you now should probably run the machime empty at 90C or whatever to kill all the bugs or whatever.

I'm a firm believer in ecology and recycling, etc, BUT you need to think for yourself as some things are just not what they proclaim to be.

mikech 06.02.2019 21:35

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I'm not critising you in the least here Pixie B....

This is exactly how people get suckered into thinking they are saving money/planet and being ecological when in fact it does as much harm as you now should probably run the machime empty at 90C or whatever to kill all the bugs or whatever.

I'm a firm believer in ecology and recycling, etc, BUT you need to think for yourself as some things are just not what they proclaim to be.
Washing empty at 90 degrees once every 6 months is not bad for the environment and it cleans your machine. NO-ONE should ever need to wash at 60 degrees since modern washing detergents will not even clean well above 40 degrees (the enzymes stop working above 40 degrees).

So, inform yourself before your post nonsense, and please start washing at 30 or 40 degrees, because there is only one planet earth.

TinyK 07.02.2019 00:20

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Originally Posted by mikech (Post 3038703)
NO-ONE should ever need to wash at 60 degrees since modern washing detergents will not even clean well above 40 degrees (the enzymes stop working above 40 degrees).

Really? I have a dust mite allergy and in all the articles and brochures that I've read it's written that bed linen should be washed at 60 degrees or higher.

Mark75 07.02.2019 00:49

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Originally Posted by mikech (Post 3038703)
Washing empty at 90 degrees once every 6 months is not bad for the environment and it cleans your machine. NO-ONE should ever need to wash at 60 degrees since modern washing detergents will not even clean well above 40 degrees (the enzymes stop working above 40 degrees).

So you're implying that all the detergent manufacturers who label their products for up to 60 or even 95 degrees are actually misleading us?
Don't think so. :rolleyes:

mikech 07.02.2019 07:41

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That's correct. If you are allergic to dust mites you will need to wash your bed linen at 60 degrees. Also, buy protective mite covers, this will also help a LOT.

For NORMAL washing - for all those who are not allergic - 30-40 degrees is enough. This will save 40% energy, so your electric bill will be substantially lower.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...t/drc-20352178

mikech 07.02.2019 07:44

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Here is Proctor & Gample (one of the biggest detergent manufacturers in the world) telling us that washing at 30 is most efficient:

"Thanks to the Cool Clean technology, Ariel products are designed to clean brilliantly in cold and quick cycles, delivering a superior clean at temperatures as low as 20 degrees. "

https://www.ariel.co.uk/en-gb/about-...an-save-energy

Guest 07.02.2019 07:56

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Originally Posted by mikech (Post 3038777)
Here is Proctor & Gample (one of the biggest detergent manufacturers in the world) telling us that washing at 30 is most efficient:

"Thanks to the Cool Clean technology, Ariel products are designed to clean brilliantly in cold and quick cycles, delivering a superior clean at temperatures as low as 20 degrees. "

https://www.ariel.co.uk/en-gb/about-...an-save-energy


That's probably where they make the most profit !;)

KiwiSteve 07.02.2019 08:25

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That's probably where they make the most profit !;)
Washing clothes less often, for less time, and at lower temperatures is one of the general pieces of general good advice around at the moment, and yes the detergent companies are clued up enough to target the trends.

As for 60 deg being enough to deal with mite allergies - interesting- would like to see the evidence, even if the source is the Mayo. Does pasteurisation or even UHT treatment deal effectively with milk allergies? Recommend using a bleach if washing soiled fabrics; there are several bleaches around that are relatively good with dyed fabrics

Urs Max 07.02.2019 09:00

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Originally Posted by KiwiSteve (Post 3038788)
As for 60 deg being enough to deal with mite allergies - interesting- would like to see the evidence, even if the source is the Mayo. Does pasteurisation or even UHT treatment deal effectively with milk allergies? Recommend using a bleach if washing soiled fabrics; there are several bleaches around that are relatively good with dyed fabrics

People generally aren't allergic to mites, they're allergic to some of their bodily products. Reducing contact with the latter happens by killing the former, which (potentially among other ways) happens by washing stuff at 60, as well as by keeping them from reproducing.

Likewise WRT the fungi that cause athlete's foot, for example, they're killed by washing stuff at 90.

(Cow) Milk OTOH gets altered by UHT procedures but it's still milk afterwards, the relevant parts aren't destroyed.

Guest 07.02.2019 09:37

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Originally Posted by KiwiSteve (Post 3038788)
Washing clothes less often, for less time, and at lower temperatures is one of the general pieces of general good advice around at the moment, and yes the detergent companies are clued up enough to target the trends.

As for 60 deg being enough to deal with mite allergies - interesting- would like to see the evidence, even if the source is the Mayo. Does pasteurisation or even UHT treatment deal effectively with milk allergies? Recommend using a bleach if washing soiled fabrics; there are several bleaches around that are relatively good with dyed fabrics

Lets hope i dont have to sit or be next to you then;)

Landers 07.02.2019 21:03

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>Likewise WRT the fungi that cause athlete's foot, for example,

>they're killed by washing stuff at 90.



I read that 60C would be sufficient.

st2lemans 07.02.2019 21:13

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Personally, I prefer cold or 30C, but that's to minimise wear and loss of colors, as well as bleeding. ;)

Tom

KiwiSteve 08.02.2019 08:53

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Soaking in diluted bleach for an extended period is the easiest and arguably most environmentally friendly way of killing bugs.
Allergies are difficult; as for instance, the enzymes in soap powders are highly allergenic and just heating the protein will not neccessarily (it may) reduce allergenicity - so washing those bed sheets at 60 deg with enzyme containing powder may actually add to the problem.
Athletes foot - cream your feet and powder your shoes.
Dust mites are everywhere -as few carpets and rugs as possible, good filter on the vacuum cleaner.
As for sitting next to me, please do ;)

Guest 08.02.2019 09:12

Re: Washing machine question
 
Apparently most people use way too much detergent in their wash and it can stick to the fibres of clothing which, in turn, attracts bacteria which can't be washed away.

Using less of it and putting half a cup of household vinegar in the fabric softener compartment for the final rinse can get rid of it. Using a small quantity of vinegar doesn't leave a smell, either.

Clocker 08.02.2019 09:20

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Apparently most people use way too much detergent in their wash and it can stick to the fibres of clothing which, in turn, attracts bacteria which can't be washed away.

Using less of it and putting half a cup of household vinegar in the fabric softener compartment for the final rinse can get rid of it. Using a small quantity of vinegar doesn't leave a smell, either.
Does the vinegar replace the fabric softener entirely or do you have to wait for the final rinse and add the vinegar only then?

Guest 08.02.2019 09:27

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039253)
Does the vinegar replace the fabric softener entirely or do you have to wait for the final rinse and add the vinegar only then?

I often use it instead of fabric softener, depends what I'm washing. If it's jeans, hoodies, shirts, towels and whatnot, I use vinegar. Smalls, blouses and bedding I use fabric softener.


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