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Old 14.05.2007, 11:14
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

I am getting more and more scared about our move. Shampoo bottles? glass? Blimey. I did expect to do some recycling but not sort everything out down to the last atom. It is so easy here, just put it all in the bin and after the rats have had a go, the security guard has a pick through, then the bin men and finally the drug addicted professional rubbish sorters. We've had it easy I see. Not necessarily better, but much easier!
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Old 14.05.2007, 12:46
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

Drop me a private message if you want the voucher, Nicky.

Zug bound, you'll get used to it pretty fast and most recycling goods are disposed off in just a few different places. It's not rocket science.
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Old 14.05.2007, 14:11
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

this bothers me too, I'd rather recycle than just keep disposing of plastic bottles. The closest I've gotten is refilling environmentally-friendly cleaning products I get from a local "alternative" shop, instead of buying new bottles. This is the brand: Held AG, 3613 Steffisburg, Schweiz

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Hello all on this recycling issue.

Can anyone tell me where I can dispose of all the plastic recycling such as shampoo bottles, food wrappers, containers and everything that doesn't seem to fit the current recycling banks available at supermarkets etc?

I was stopped this week at Coop from empyting all true recycling products into the various bins because the supermarket can only cater for the Coke bottle and milk bottle style of PET but do not offer an option for shampoo bottles etc.

I could not believe that I am supposed to throw away in the normal household waste refuse that can be recycled. Even the local gemeinde said the same thing?????? I had thought Switzerland claimed to be at the forefront of recycling, but this can't be right if there isn't a place that will take away rubbish that is clearly labelled as recycling.
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Old 14.05.2007, 18:08
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

I've actually been quite impressed at the recycling facilities in Belfast.

When I was in Switzerland, I got into the recycling thing. At first I wasn't so keen but I became aware of the fact that it made common sense.

I was pretty convinced that things would be back to 'chuck everything in a huge black bin liner' upon coming back but not so.

Firstly, there's a council recycling centre very close to me that takes just about every kind of recyclable item possible - from PET bottles to 'white goods' appliances. An improvement over my local Gemeinde in Zuerich that had several seperate places to take different sorts of waste. I tend to go there once every couple of weeks with a load of bags of stuff.

Secondly, all households have been given a big plastic container into which they can put recyclable items like PET bottles, glass, newspapers etc. which is collected once a week. So even if you can't be bothered to ferry your recyclables to the depot you can have them collected (for free).

Oh yeah, and you can still chuck all your waste into a very sizeable black wheelie bin for collection once a week if that's what you want. No need to buy special bin bags either.


So all in all, a pleasant surprise.
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I am getting more and more scared about our move. Shampoo bottles? glass? Blimey. I did expect to do some recycling but not sort everything out down to the last atom. It is so easy here, just put it all in the bin and after the rats have had a go, the security guard has a pick through, then the bin men and finally the drug addicted professional rubbish sorters. We've had it easy I see. Not necessarily better, but much easier!
The amount of time and energy I spent disposing of stuff 'properly' when moving out of my flat in Zuerich was unbelievable. After a couple of days of schlepping stuff to various depots I tended to cheat and just bung it into a standard duty-paid bin bag for regular collection instead of categorising it and taking it to the appropriate place. I remember being a bit paranoid about being landed with a huge bill but seem to have got away with it ...... or have I
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

you'll only get caught if you cunningly put some document in there with your name on it or.....someone dobs you in
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you'll only get caught if you cunningly put some document in there with your name on it or.....someone dobs you in
Anyone else heard the rumour that the "authorities" have even traced the rubbish back to its owner using the Cumulus/Supercard number on supermarket receipts?

A few weeks ago I spotted a "waste forensics" van in Kreis 4 with some bod going through illegally dumped (untaxed) garbage bags, looking for ID I presume
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Old 14.05.2007, 19:06
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Secondly, all households have been given a big plastic container into which they can put recyclable items like PET bottles, glass, newspapers etc. which is collected once a week. So even if you can't be bothered to ferry your recyclables to the depot you can have them collected (for free).

Oh yeah, and you can still chuck all your waste into a very sizeable black wheelie bin for collection once a week if that's what you want. No need to buy special bin bags either.

So all in all, a pleasant surprise.
Recycling used to be so easy back in the UK, we had one large green wheelie bin that we could put PET bottles, cans, any plastic food containers and bottles etc... paper and card board and then we had a seperate box for all glass, this was all collected from us once a fortnight - oh and in summer the green waste would come once a fortnight also, so so easy

Luckily here we live right next to the recycling bins so its not so hard, just got to remember to do it regularly rather than letting the bottles and cans build up and having too much to carry
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Old 14.05.2007, 21:22
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Recycling used to be so easy back in the UK, we had one large green wheelie bin that we could put PET bottles, cans, any plastic food containers and bottles etc... paper and card board and then we had a seperate box for all glass, this was all collected from us once a fortnight - oh and in summer the green waste would come once a fortnight also, so so easy

Luckily here we live right next to the recycling bins so its not so hard, just got to remember to do it regularly rather than letting the bottles and cans build up and having too much to carry

Ahhh, there's your mistake you see. Things should never be easy ....

I personally just love how easy most stuff in the UK is and it's not just the language issue. The only problem is that now I tend to get paranoid about doing things as I'm sure there must be a complex system of obscure rules and regulations there to make things difficult.
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Old 14.05.2007, 21:42
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

Any plastic with the recycle stamp can be recycled at Ikea (shampoo / washing conditioner bottles etc) they also take polystyrene and other plastic bags. Other recyling you should be able to find from your local geminde. (glass/clothes/ali/batteries etc)

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Old 22.06.2007, 09:48
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

Anyone know the best dump in canton St Gallen where they take any old sh*te? We have small local ones but they are specific about what they do and do not take and I'm looking for one stop reverse shopping.

Otherwise, does someone with SG paltes get penalised for using the big one at Oerlikon or is the charge the same for everyone?
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Old 22.06.2007, 09:53
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

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Come over to Lachen. The Sammelstelle [colelction point] there takes most things....just tape over your licence plates

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Old 22.06.2007, 11:28
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Re: Waste Side Story [recycling collection]

many products carry on their label a sign telling you what to do with the package (karton, Glass, ALU etc...or put it in the waste bag -waste bag sign)

I have found these very good sites (but unfortunately only in german) www.abfall.ch

http://www.stadtreinigung-bs.ch/page.php?lang=0&sel=13

If you can decipher themthey offer very good information on what nad how.
For instance I found out that you can only throw bottles in the bottle recycling bins. Any other glass must be brought to a recycling park.

It is not very easy to recycle but it is a joy to do something about the environment and not waste material.
What I do is put all things that are not easily recyclable in a big box. When it is full we bring it to the recycling park and let them do the work.


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Old 27.06.2007, 23:36
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Recycling of Tetra Pak and plastic Cartons

My first question, is that there is a paper collection in the village, does this include magazines? In the piece of paper that came around it says no envelopes etc. So what do you do with all the envelopes, printer paper and general paper that a family has.

In Germany there is the yellow sack, which contains tetra pak, yogurt cartons , butter or marge cartons etc. There doesn't appear to be anything similar is in Switzerland, or at least in Thurgau.

I want to recycle guys, in France also there are the three containers in most villages, glass, paper and tetra pack cartons etc.

Does that mean that if I want to recycle I need to take everything to neighboring countries.

In the UK now, they are starting the process to take all the cartons back to the shop, where they were purchased. Fancy that in Switzerland, turning up with 100 PET bottles and cartons.

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Re: Recycling of Tetra Pak and plastic Cartons

The paper collection should take any kind of paper like newspapers, magazines, envelopes provided they don't have a plasticky-film window or its been removed, and packaging paper like that used for frozen food. Printed paper is fine so long as you're removed any staples. What they don't accept are cardboard - that has its own collection - and paper shopping bags. I've noticed our collection sometimes bends the rules a little if the piles are particularly neat and tidy - they've never left it at the curb if we slip in one small bit of cardboard.

I'm actually not sure about Tetra Pak - I just know it's not paper because of the aluminium layer inside.

Most Coops or Migros have PET bins outside.
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Glass,PET,Paper,Cardboard, Batteries,Oil,Iron,Aluminium,Textiles and Shoes and Old eletronic gadgets are regularly collected for recycling in Switzerland.

Paper and cardboard are usually collected at your doorstep,check your local community website for collecting days,more often than not its pupils of the local school who do that and earn some money for the class' piggy bank.

However,I am not keen on putting anything that can indentify me in the paper collection,I tear up the enveloppes and tear off the printed address from magazines,also faxes and letters are torn up here and binned.

About every three months you'll get a White 'garbage' bag in the mail,this is for clothes collection, on the bag the date of collection is printed in red ink.There are also some TEXAID containers dotted around the country.The clothes that are useable are then handed on to charity organsiations to send them on to 3rd world countries and the stuff thats beyond wearing is processed into 'Putzfäden',sometimes also given to homes for the elderly or handicapped , who cut the fabric in stripes and make carpets to sell on local craft fairs out of them.

Here in Ct.Bern we also get a YELLOW bag for collecting old shoes.Some of the shoe stores here also have containers outside the shops where you can put your old unwanted shoes that are still in reasonable nick.

AND last but not least,the Brockenhaus will also take these items off you as long as they are in wearable state (not stained or torn)

In every community as well as in front of larger stores you'll find the PET and glass collection containers.Inside the stores are more often than not collection corners for the old batteries and aluminium, as well as the MILK PET bottles,who should not be put into the regular PET containers.

Under the new regulation you can give old eletronic gadgets back to the shop for recycling .
If you live close to a garbage incinerator they also have various collection spots for all the things mentioned above as well as a old eletroncis collecting container.

Old metal, is also often collected from your doorstep,you can find out about this on the communities website.

Old bycicles are often collected by charity organisations,who then try to repair them and sell them on cheap
<a href=http://www.gad.ch>a local example</a>

and last but not least, almost every larger community has got it's own WERKHOF ( whats that called in english??),where you'll often also find collection containers.

Furthermore, old cooking or motor oil is also collected and old poisonous liquids can be given back
<a href=http://www.sovag.ch>here</a>


we're a family of five and I manage to use only one 35 liter garbage bag a week
does this help?
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we're a family of five and I manage to use only one 35 liter garbage bag a week
does this help?
can you give my wife lessons ? we seem to get through three to four a week & recycle pretty much anything .... although there is nothing one can do about pampers right now ...
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can you give my wife lessons ? we seem to get through three to four a week & recycle pretty much anything .... although there is nothing one can do about pampers right now ...

I have to add that my children are now 17,11 and 9 years old and I sooooooooooooo remember the time when they were in nappies,of course this is a reason why you fill more bags than we do.

The papery things from the office or torn up childrens drawings, the kinderüberraschungstoys that are broken,broken Mc Donalds toys,broken dishes and bowls and other similar things,the aforementioned address stickers and such are collected in a separate 60 liter bag here,usually it takes about four to 8 weeks until that bag is full,this also helps to keep the weekly bag quota low
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Glass,PET,Paper,Cardboard, Batteries,Oil,Iron,Aluminium,Textiles and Shoes and Old eletronic gadgets are regularly collected for recycling in Switzerland.

Paper and cardboard are usually collected at your doorstep,check your local community website for collecting days,more often than not its pupils of the local school who do that and earn some money for the class' piggy bank.

However,I am not keen on putting anything that can indentify me in the paper collection,I tear up the enveloppes and tear off the printed address from magazines,also faxes and letters are torn up here and binned.

About every three months you'll get a White 'garbage' bag in the mail,this is for clothes collection, on the bag the date of collection is printed in red ink.There are also some TEXAID containers dotted around the country.The clothes that are useable are then handed on to charity organsiations to send them on to 3rd world countries and the stuff thats beyond wearing is processed into 'Putzfäden',sometimes also given to homes for the elderly or handicapped , who cut the fabric in stripes and make carpets to sell on local craft fairs out of them.

Here in Ct.Bern we also get a YELLOW bag for collecting old shoes.Some of the shoe stores here also have containers outside the shops where you can put your old unwanted shoes that are still in reasonable nick.

AND last but not least,the Brockenhaus will also take these items off you as long as they are in wearable state (not stained or torn)

In every community as well as in front of larger stores you'll find the PET and glass collection containers.Inside the stores are more often than not collection corners for the old batteries and aluminium, as well as the MILK PET bottles,who should not be put into the regular PET containers.

does this help?
Yeah Ok but that doesn't answer the title of the thread, what about Tetra pak and non PET plastic containers ie washing liquid, ajax, window cleaning stuff, bleech bottles, shampoo, cooking oil etc etc
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Yeah Ok but that doesn't answer the title of the thread, what about Tetra pak and non PET plastic containers ie washing liquid, ajax, window cleaning stuff, bleech bottles, shampoo, cooking oil etc etc

The tetra packs are not collected with the wastepaper / Cardboard, because they are thinly plasticfiated (?)on the outside and got an aluminium layer on the inside.
Batholomew already explained that very well.

As for the other bottles PET and non-PET, this is waste that gets burned ( Switzerland has AFAIK no landfill sites anymore) but a net of really well maintained waste incinerators (KEWU,MÜVE,KEBAG etc etc) these incinerators are fitted with various filtering devices so that in the end the burning of this chemically made containers,does not pollute the environement.

This is also the stuff that I crush to minimize the bulk size and put into my 60 liter bag.........................

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