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Old 06.07.2008, 16:05
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Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

Hey all,

I have a square low table to give away, in case someone's interested. It has a glass surface and a wooden base with wheels, and is in very good condition (it was given to me temporarily until I bought my own furniture and it doesn't suit my living room anymore).

If no one's interested, can anyone please explain to me how the Swiss law is regarding throwing away furniture? From what I know there are specific days depending on the area that you live that you can put furniture out on the street to be picked up by the garbage collectors or something.

Can anyone confirm this, and let me know where I can get more info (dates for my area)?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06.07.2008, 16:22
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Re: Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

It depends on the municipality if there's a collection day for old furniture on the streets, or if you have to bring it to a central location by yourself.

If you live in Lausanne itself, you can leave objects up to 2m^3 big on the street on collection day without announcement, as explained here. The calendar depends on the street, you can download the appropriate one by selecting your street in the drop-down menu at the top of the website.

I'm not sure if the disposal is free or not.
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Old 06.07.2008, 16:24
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If no-one wants it on here you could try putting it outside with a sign saying gratis/free (Libre i think in French), if no-one takes it then you can put some bin marks on it, and the men who collect the rubbish will take it
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Old 06.07.2008, 16:41
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Re: Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

Thanks a lot Nathu, that's exactly what I needed. I checked out that site but I couldn't find this.

Sutter, I wish it were that simple . In Switzerland I get the feeling they'll track me down somehow by analyzing the fingerprints on the table and arrest me for traumatizing the neighbourhood . I like that things are well organized in Switz, but sometimes it can get a bit annoying.
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Thanks a lot Nathu, that's exactly what I needed. I checked out that site but I couldn't find this.

Sutter, I wish it were that simple . In Switzerland I get the feeling they'll track me down somehow by analyzing the fingerprints on the table and arrest me for traumatizing the neighbourhood . I like that things are well organized in Switz, but sometimes it can get a bit annoying.

Trust me you will not get into trouble, i see it here all the time, we have even done it ourselves, and people took it away
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Old 07.07.2008, 07:24
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It depends on the municipality...
Sad but all too true.
One of the most frustrating things about Switzerland is that one lives here for five years, picks up a bit of the dialect, sorts out the local school system, the parking rules, the opening times of important offices, the laundry roster in the house one lives in, and last but not least, the rubbish system -wow, we have hacked it at last - then one moves two hundred metres down the road into the next village, which happens to lie in the next Canton, and nothing, but nothing, is organised in the same way.
In Wädenswil, every household is given a rubbish calendar each year with all the relevant (rubbish) infos in it. There are 22 (TWENTY-TWO) sorts of rubbish listed, which are either collected on various days or have to be brought to various places in the town, days and/or dates specified, to be disposed of (if one has big items and/or no means of transport, one can request collection by the municipality and pay extra) and in addition there is a "bring and take" day once a year.
And it goes without saying that the nearest towns in both direction, though also in canton Zürich, have different rulings.

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If no-one wants it on here you could try putting it outside with a sign saying gratis/free (Libre i think in French), if no-one takes it then you can put some bin marks on it, and the men who collect the rubbish will take it
Trust me you will not get into trouble, i see it here all the time, we have even done it ourselves, and people took it away
People do it here too, but it is probably illegal - the fact that one puts 'gratis' on it, doesn't really alter the fact that it is 'dumping' - even if only temporarily.
I don't know about Lausanne, but here, we don't have 'bin marks' and the men who collect the rubbish will certainly NOT take it. The lawyers among us can put me right but with all respect to Sutter, I have a sneaking feeling that 'I see it all the time and Sutter does it too' is not an argument we can use in court. Mind you it would be rather fun to try it out. Anyone game?
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Old 07.07.2008, 09:39
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People do it here too, but it is probably illegal - the fact that one puts 'gratis' on it, doesn't really alter the fact that it is 'dumping' - even if only temporarily.
I don't know about Lausanne, but here, we don't have 'bin marks' and the men who collect the rubbish will certainly NOT take it. The lawyers among us can put me right but with all respect to Sutter, I have a sneaking feeling that 'I see it all the time and Sutter does it too' is not an argument we can use in court. Mind you it would be rather fun to try it out. Anyone game?
I've stated my opinion before, but here you go: It is illegal to dump old furniture in the streets in the entire country. The people who do so get away with it because the majority plays by the rules. If they wouldn't, there would be much more garbage in the streets. The illegal dumpers themselves don't seem to be very confident in their method, as they rarely place the old stuff in front of their own frontdoor.
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Old 07.07.2008, 10:14
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Trust me you will not get into trouble, i see it here all the time, we have even done it ourselves, and people took it away
You can not do this in Lausanne. You must wait for the days that the truck comes by.
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Old 07.07.2008, 10:31
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Re: Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

If something is worth giving away for free and you think the condition is ok, wouldn't it be better to drop it off at your local Brockenhaus then?
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there you go http://www.brocki.ch/
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Old 07.07.2008, 18:31
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People do it here too, but it is probably illegal - the fact that one puts 'gratis' on it, doesn't really alter the fact that it is 'dumping' - even if only temporarily.
I don't know about Lausanne, but here, we don't have 'bin marks' and the men who collect the rubbish will certainly NOT take it. The lawyers among us can put me right but with all respect to Sutter, I have a sneaking feeling that 'I see it all the time and Sutter does it too' is not an argument we can use in court. Mind you it would be rather fun to try it out. Anyone game?
Thanks for putting into words what I find really annoying here. I'm not used to having to memorize the schedules of supermarkets, shops, etc and organizing my life around THEIR schedules, everywhere I've lived before I would be able to buy just about whatever I needed whenever I needed to.

Oh, and I decided to go ahead and put the table outside since I was tired of having it take up space (the municipality truck is supposed to pass by in 3 days and I'm going to be away when it comes by). Right when I was carrying it out the building the concierge sees me and asks me if he can take it, so I got lucky .
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Old 07.07.2008, 19:02
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Thanks Right when I was carrying it out the building the concierge sees me and asks me if he can take it, so I got lucky .
Boy and there's us, all racking our brains, trying to find a nice solution for you.
I appreciate that it must be hard to get used to the methods here though. I suppose that after so long my brain is just used to it. Glad it all turned out well and one must admit, there are compensations... like when I lift my eyes from the computer and can see mountains and lakes instead of a blank wall... perhaps you can too.
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Old 07.07.2008, 19:23
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Re: Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

I know I know, thanks anyways .

And yeah, I don't seem to get tired of the view of the alps and the lake (I live 30 secs from the lake), and so far one of the best feelings I've had was falling asleep in my kayak on the lake! Plus when you factor in all the via ferrata, hiking, skiing, climbing, and snowboarding, I guess it could be worse .
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Old 08.07.2008, 09:26
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Oh, and I decided to go ahead and put the table outside since I was tired of having it take up space (the municipality truck is supposed to pass by in 3 days and I'm going to be away when it comes by). Right when I was carrying it out the building the concierge sees me and asks me if he can take it, so I got lucky .
You do realise though, don't you, that had the concierge NOT taken it, you might well have landed yourself with a fine. I don't know how much it would be, but I think it is Fr.200.- here just for putting out rubbish in the 'wrong' rubbish bag. The 'proper' ones have a surcharge on when you buy them and anything else used, even a very similar-looking one, is not allowed. They actually search through the bag to find the culprit!
All's well that ends well, but don't push your luck!
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Old 08.07.2008, 09:36
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Re: Giving away furniture/Swiss law regarding throwing furniture

While I see your point regarding dumping stuff in the street, please don't get too Swiss - it's perfectly alright to put stuff in the street for others to take for free (done it before and had part of my interior from there as well). Just make sure it's something somebody would take home... We don't have to be more anal, just because someone says so a bit of common sense goes a long way.. And I certainly hope that not everybody wants to integrate that hard, after all we want some of the lifestyle/Mojo from other places to come with the people.. not just their work-capabilities!

What a boring place that would be otherwise

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PS: It obviously is easier in the city, as not all people would dare to do that in a village ....

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You do realise though, don't you, that had the concierge NOT taken it, you might well have landed yourself with a fine. I don't know how much it would be, but I think it is Fr.200.- here just for putting out rubbish in the 'wrong' rubbish bag. The 'proper' ones have a surcharge on when you buy them and anything else used, even a very similar-looking one, is not allowed. They actually search through the bag to find the culprit!
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You do realise though, don't you, that had the concierge NOT taken it, you might well have landed yourself with a fine. I don't know how much it would be, but I think it is Fr.200.- here just for putting out rubbish in the 'wrong' rubbish bag. The 'proper' ones have a surcharge on when you buy them and anything else used, even a very similar-looking one, is not allowed. They actually search through the bag to find the culprit!
All's well that ends well, but don't push your luck!
Yeah a friend of mine was fined for putting his rubbish out on the wrong day. The police went through the rubbish and found his name, tracked down his apartment and fined him. When the police is going through your rubbish you know they have a lot of time on their hands. I think there are extremes to everything, including being civilized, and as much as I like Switzerland, I think it's sometimes near that extreme.
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If something is worth giving away for free and you think the condition is ok, wouldn't it be better to drop it off at your local Brockenhaus then?
The Brocki will generally only take what you can get rid of yourself quite easily on ebay or ricardo for 1CHF or more.
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Yeah a friend of mine was fined for putting his rubbish out on the wrong day. The police went through the rubbish and found his name, tracked down his apartment and fined him. When the police is going through your rubbish you know they have a lot of time on their hands. I think there are extremes to everything, including being civilized, and as much as I like Switzerland, I think it's sometimes near that extreme.
The police have too much time on their hands due to the low crime rate. Heard a story today where my colleague's hubby was done for 60CHF for not stopping at a "Give Way" junction (with the trianglular sign and triangles on the road). When he argued they asked for his Abgas certificate (not the sticker but the certificate which he didn't keep in the car).

But when I compare to Ireland where we have 100s of 1000s of people driving legally until last week on their own without ever passing their driving test I think I know which I prefer.
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Old 08.07.2008, 20:38
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Hey all,
I have a square low table to give away, in case someone's interested....
If no one's interested, can anyone please explain to me how the Swiss law is regarding throwing away furniture? From what I know there are specific days depending on the area that you live that you can put furniture out on the street to be picked up by the garbage collectors or something.
Can anyone confirm this, and let me know where I can get more info (dates for my area)? Thanks in advance!
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It depends on the municipality if there's a collection day for old furniture on the streets, or if you have to bring it to a central location by yourself.
If you live in Lausanne itself, you can leave objects up to 2m^3 big on the street on collection day without announcement, as explained here. The calendar depends on the street, you can download the appropriate one by selecting your street in the drop-down menu at the top of the website.
I'm not sure if the disposal is free or not.
If members want to suggest that one can also put things in the street at any other time, to be taken by anyone who needs them, and say that they have done this themselves, that is their own business. However, to add
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- it's perfectly alright .
is, to my mind, unfair on a Newbie who is reading the Thread through quickly to check the law. Who pays the fine if the authorities don't turn a blind eye after all?
If this way of thinking makes me too Swiss, so be it.
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- Give the Brockenhaus a call, they come with their car and get (almost) all what you don't want anymore...and that you won't even have to carry out yourself...
- Put a message on the next Migros or Coop board...or send a message to next the Pfadi (scouts)-webside you find.

Besides complex situations and problems, Switzerland offers sometimes very easy and cheap solutions too. Just use them..
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