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Picking wood from forest

(I am not sure this question fits in this section of the forum... apologies if not).

Dear all,
I was wondering: does anyone of you know about the laws for picking wood in the forests?

I am not talking about cutting trees, but picking wood that is already in the ground and which is potentially a source of fire.
My intention was to pick these for the fire place, but... then I learned that most of the woods in Switzerland are private.
But then I also learned that such a kind of cleaning is "protected" by law, meaning that everyone can go in everyone else woods (unless it is explicitly forbidden access) and pick wood on the ground as it is "cleaning".
However I could not find any source of information (like an official law) to support what I heard.

Does anyone know about this?
Thanks,
Mik
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Just depends on your Gemeinde/Commune. Here all the forests belong to the Commune (local Council) - just go to the Desk Clerk and ask about the local rules.
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Re: Picking wood from forest

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Just depends on your Gemeinde/Commune. Here all the forests belong to the Commune (local Council) - just go to the Desk Clerk and ask about the local rules.
Are you entirely sure about this?
what I was told was quite the contrary, meaning that nearly no forest belong to the local council (comune in Ticino) and they are all private.
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Re: Picking wood from forest

You're ok with picking deadwood for a campfire or such, but you'll probably get some frowns if you start harvesting large quantities.

You'll find that most forests here are quite intensively managed. Firewood is harvested even in forests quite close to the city. The small branches are usually piled and left to rot, which is part of the Oeko cycle.

You'll manage to find kindling, but it will probably be wet, rotted, or not there if you're in a forest where people like to grill in the summer.

Here is a link (German and French only):

https://www.waldschweiz.ch/schweizer...e/sammeln.html
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Re: Picking wood from forest

Quite sure.

We have a house in the woods, 300m2 are ours, the rest belongs to the town.

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Are you entirely sure about this?
what I was told was quite the contrary, meaning that nearly no forest belong to the local council (comune in Ticino) and they are all private.
As always in Switzerland , YMMV. Where I live forests are a mix of public and private land. And, some private forest land has a right of way running through. You really cannot get a definitive answer unless you ask about the specific land you are interested in.

As Odile suggests, go to your Gemeinde and ask whether you are allowed on that particular piece of land, and then clarify the rules around gathering fallen wood.
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Just depends on your Gemeinde/Commune. Here all the forests belong to the Commune (local Council) - just go to the Desk Clerk and ask about the local rules.
SORRY - I read too fast and missed the keyword: "HERE"
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You're ok with picking deadwood for a campfire or such, but you'll probably get some frowns if you start harvesting large quantities.
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Here is a link (German and French only):

https://www.waldschweiz.ch/schweizer...e/sammeln.html
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SORRY - I read too fast and missed the keyword: "HERE"
As Meloncollie says- just depends where you are ...

One of the wonderful things here, is that the Garden Forest system was invented here in the late 19C (Henri Biolley) - and we have no intensive or mono sylvacuture. Trees are felled individually after assessment of which tree should come out to favour the natural growth of others and keep a balance of species, and always leaving light and clearings to encourage bio-diversity on the forest floor and help support local avi/fauna - including our Capercaillie, hares, woodcocks, etc. and of course fabulous for foraging, especially wild mushrooms

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Are you entirely sure about this?
what I was told was quite the contrary, meaning that nearly no forest belong to the local council (comune in Ticino) and they are all private.
Next to the communes itself there are the Bürgergemeinde Wikipedia reference-linkB%C3%BCrgergemeinde (Patriziato in Ticino) which are also considered public. Additionally there are cooperatives which own a lot of land. Sometimes this cooperatives are linked with the Bürgergemeinde, some times they are a own entity. Joining a Bürgergemeinde is relatively easy, you become a citizen of that place. Joining a cooperative may be naught to impossible unless you can trace your ancestry back to the guy which sold hot dogs at the Rütlischwur or sharpened the poleaxes at the battle of Morat.

According to this publication 3/4 of all forest in Ticino are public owned. But most of the public owned forests belong to Patriziati and not the local comune.
https://www.e-periodica.ch/cntmng?pi...:1983:101::336
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Quite sure.

We have a house in the woods, 300m2 are ours, the rest belongs to the town.

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Sounds like you've got top choice for a Christmas tree!
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Sounds like you've got top choice for a Christmas tree!
Alas, chestnut doesn't make for a good Christmas tree.

Does make for good eating, however.

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Re: Picking wood from forest

Many Gemeindes sell firewood from their woods. So they probably don't want people helping themselves. But check with them.
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Re: Picking wood from forest

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(I am not sure this question fits in this section of the forum... apologies if not).

Dear all,
I was wondering: does anyone of you know about the laws for picking wood in the forests?

I am not talking about cutting trees, but picking wood that is already in the ground and which is potentially a source of fire.
My intention was to pick these for the fire place, but... then I learned that most of the woods in Switzerland are private.
But then I also learned that such a kind of cleaning is "protected" by law, meaning that everyone can go in everyone else woods (unless it is explicitly forbidden access) and pick wood on the ground as it is "cleaning".
However I could not find any source of information (like an official law) to support what I heard.

Does anyone know about this?
Thanks,
Mik
To be sure, the best thing to do is to ask the responsible forest warden (ring up the commune or ask a farmer close by for contact details).

According to federal law the public has the right to access the forest; recreational use is very fine in General but not for economic gain. Kanton and commune can issue restrictions, which will typically happen to protect fauna and flora. For instance mushroom collecting is usually limited by time period or amount or both. Hunting is regulated and controlled. AFAIK cutting wood (even by the owner) is forbidden unless Ok'ed beforehand by the forest warden. Etc.

Building a bbq fire at a fireplace is recreational use, often there's a stakc of firewood provided for that purpose. Taking the same amount of wood home may perhaps be Ok, but only if it's a one-time thing. Collecting a significant stack and taking it home however probably isn't.

Besides, you may not drive your car into the forest so you can't easily transport the stack home anyway. People (especially that farmer who owns that patch) will notice if you try regardless.
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