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Verbier 29.05.2018 13:23

Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Nestle announced today that they will cut 500 IT jobs in the Swiss Romande area (Bussigny and Vevey) and move the corporate IT responsibility to Barcelona. A total of 80 IT/Logistics jobs at Nespresso will also be cut.

These cuts will take place over the next 18 months.

Mikers 29.05.2018 13:25

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Yes almost all of us. At the hard end of what was expected.

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 13:34

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
It's even better, the business owner/marketing are using clever terms.
Jobs are moving to "the competency center" in Barcelona.

Clearly it's in fact "cheap(er) labor center", its funny how manipulation is done.

Swiss Romande is a cementary in terms of employment, despite the rumors running around that it's "getting better" in terms of employment (in the region and in Switzerland).

It's all happening in Zurich.

Today only 29.05.2018 13:53

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
They've not finished yet, either ;)

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 14:00

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.

CodeDesign 29.05.2018 14:18

I am afraid that several IT and digital j:msnnerd:bs are going away... definitely.
That's the new ec:eek:nomy. Winner takes all (before being l:msnmad:ser), and faster than we can adapt ourself in this "rat race" !!!
What is the next tsunami? :D

Competition my friend... global competition! Go see overseas.

Jaceq 29.05.2018 14:31

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Looking at how hard is to get good IT people in ZH, maybe that's not too bad, hopefully some of those will come here and contribute to a fairly busy market!

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 14:36

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CodeDesign (Post 2951193)
I am afraid that several IT and digital j:msnnerd:bs are going away... definitely.
That's the new ec:eek:nomy. Winner takes all (before being l:msnmad:ser), and faster than we can adapt ourself in this "rat race" !!!
What is the next tsunami? :D

I don't mind. I love new technologies and I always evolve and adapt.

What I mind is the fact that the crappy managers who failed to anticipate, listen to changes are the one making the decision, keeping their business and screwing others in the process.

Because less face it, they can pick and choose who's staying and leaving and higher management have usually poor visibility on that, they simply get "glorified reports" and support their lower management.

So evolution, adaptation, redundancies are part of healthy business lifecycle.

Respect, anticipation, training, fair communication should also be basis and would certainly ease the situation during difficult times.

That's not happening in numerous companies and managers are in control. I simply wish that if the plane is going to crash, because of pilot mistake, then the pilot should go with it.
And if the plane has to crash due to external circumstances, that's terribly sad, but part of life and that's a different situation.

Of course, then it's also the passengers responsabilities to get out of the plane as soon as they realize how crappy their pilot is, that's another story.

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 14:49

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaceq (Post 2951200)
Looking at how hard is to get good IT people in ZH, maybe that's not too bad, hopefully some of those will come here and contribute to a fairly busy market!

And put more pressure in your already saturated property market, and roads ;)

Clearly this concentration of IT companies in Zurich only is not that beneficial for Switzerland in general. It's understandable somehow, yet we talk about 1-2 hours distance, there should be less concentration.

Think Reading VS London, it's about 1 hour by train and yet numerous IT jobs there.

fatmanfilms 29.05.2018 15:22

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Only 2% of profits come from CH, so don't waste your time. Switzerland is an irrelevant market for Nestle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951177)
In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.


CodeDesign 29.05.2018 15:36

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951206)
I don't mind. I love new technologies and I always evolve and adapt.

Good mindset, hope you will never be replaced by someone cheaper and "better" because your cost of living or your age!

Quote:

What I mind is the fact that the crappy managers who failed to anticipate, listen to changes are the one making the decision, keeping their business and screwing others in the process.

Because less face it, they can pick and choose who's staying and leaving and higher management have usually poor visibility on that, they simply get "glorified reports" and support their lower management.

So evolution, adaptation, redundancies are part of healthy business lifecycle.
Got this, but may be these managers are not too bad for doing what they are supposed to do in this situation?

Quote:

Respect, anticipation, training, fair communication should also be basis and would certainly ease the situation during difficult times.
I couldn't agree more...

Quote:

That's not happening in numerous companies and managers are in control. I simply wish that if the plane is going to crash, because of pilot mistake, then the pilot should go with it.
And if the plane has to crash due to external circumstances, that's terribly sad, but part of life and that's a different situation.
In the digital age, it happens a lot all over the world. The plane could crash and we will survive or not.


Quote:

Of course, then it's also the passengers responsabilities to get out of the plane as soon as they realize how crappy their pilot is, that's another story.
Yes if they can open the doors and get to fly in the beautiful blue sky.


Thanks for your reply, with respect.


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Today only 29.05.2018 15:40

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Nestle got incredibly bloated under Paul Bulcke and Peter Brabec, the new guy, Ulf-Marc Schneider is trimming it back which is what he is being paid for, to increase profitability and to enhance shareholder value, both of which badly needs doing.


There are not so many ways to do this without a major restructuration.


There will certainly be more redundancies in Nestle before the years' end.

bigblue2 29.05.2018 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by today only (Post 2951273)
ulf-marc schneider is trimming it back, in order to meet his short term bonus related targets, who care about long term? As long as i get my big $$$$$ bonus?


ftfy

ZuriRollt 29.05.2018 15:53

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbier (Post 2951154)
Nestle announced today that they will cut 500 IT jobs in the Swiss Romande area (Bussigny and Vevey) and move the corporate IT responsibility to Barcelona. A total of 80 IT/Logistics jobs at Nespresso will also be cut.

These cuts will take place over the next 18 months.

It's fact.

The employees are being offered relocation to Barcelona or Italy, but also being supported in finding something new here in CH / early pension etc.

A touch better than UBS recently relocating their Operations to Schaffhausen (easy commuting distant from the cheaper Germany labor market), and giving the impacted Zürich employees the chance to relocate there.

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 15:58

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CodeDesign (Post 2951270)
Good mindset, hope you will never be replaced by someone cheaper and "better" because your cost of living or your age!

Got this, but may be these managers are not too bad for doing what they are supposed to do in this situation?

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I have been replaced on numerous occasions, it was my fault for not anticipating enough and for misplaced trust and loyalty.

I'm maintaining myself up to date, clearly I did it not fully in the past as instead of going 100% slave for the businesses I worked for, I should have given 80% and train during the remaining 20%.

And yes, the older one gets in IT, the more hard it will become due to stereotypes and idiotic managers/recruiters.

Managers are too bad because if they were better, there would not be that situation. That's what a leader is supposed to do, anticipate, mitigate risks, manage his employes (and not use them and then dispose of them).

Making people redundant is not a problem in the right context, the problem is when these people have been used only until they are useless elsewhere, and dropped instead of being trained. Sure, there's a part of personal responsability in slaving yourself for a given business and not maintaining your employability. Nonetheless, a good leader/manager should not let employee going to the wall, at the very least there should be some discussions of career advancements and some form or proactivity.

bigblue2 29.05.2018 15:59

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interesting, I understand labour laws in Italy are some of the strictest around, so are they being re-located as full time open ended employee contracts or as contractors? and with a hefty pay cut I assume.

ZuriRollt 29.05.2018 16:20

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951177)
In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.

Can we also do this with banking though, where the numbers are far more out-reaching, but the same is happening. No-one complains there.

Not all people employed in banking are the ones you read about with "Golden Parachutes" etc.

A majority live in fear of their existence - earning liveable wages, learning to be flexible - e.g. an average of 8 Line Managers within 2 years because some genius comes in now and again to revolutionise - never knowing when they will genius you out of your bog-standard job to cut costs.

Massenentlassungen (mass redundancy) comes with obligations in Switzerland.
What many Banking companies do to circumvent this law is in my opinion criminal.

EdwinNL 29.05.2018 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951206)
I don't mind. I love new technologies and I always evolve and adapt.

What I mind is the fact that the crappy managers who failed to anticipate, listen to changes are the one making the decision, keeping their business and screwing others in the process.

Because less face it, they can pick and choose who's staying and leaving and higher management have usually poor visibility on that, they simply get "glorified reports" and support their lower management.

So evolution, adaptation, redundancies are part of healthy business lifecycle.

Respect, anticipation, training, fair communication should also be basis and would certainly ease the situation during difficult times.

That's not happening in numerous companies and managers are in control. I simply wish that if the plane is going to crash, because of pilot mistake, then the pilot should go with it.
And if the plane has to crash due to external circumstances, that's terribly sad, but part of life and that's a different situation.

Of course, then it's also the passengers responsabilities to get out of the plane as soon as they realize how crappy their pilot is, that's another story.

Some functions cannot loose.

The guy who said business should go elsewhere saves the company money and can leave as a winner, another guy comes in and cleans the mess which would come after the first guy left by bringing business back and he is seen of the cause of the work being done better, so he also can leave as a winner. In the meantime "lower" functions lost jobs or had to move, the company spend a lot extra on trainings and accommodations.

But companies bringing business elsewhere since if it works out it will save a lot of money, I do not blame them, I'd probably do the same when running a commercial business since I do not see such as a social institute.

Today only 29.05.2018 16:34

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2951275)
ftfy


You decided to misquote me .......


Schneider had been their now for nearly 18 months, looking and deciding what to do and he is now moving.


Short term and Nestle don't go hand in hand, Nestle have never been one to look for short term gains over long term investements and i am sure when Schneider was appointed, this was one of the reasons he got the job, despite comming from a non food background, that he was not just looking for short term benefits.


The NEST museum, despite being good, is highly loss making and went well over budget, it was more a vanity project of Brabec/Bulcke.



Schneider would dearly love to shut it down for as short term gain, but he won't as this would go against the Nestle culture and ethics.


By the way, Schneider is not on a wildly big salary bonus schem for running the worlds' largest food company, it's just not the way Nestle works.

curley 29.05.2018 17:45

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951177)
In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.

My entire life we boycottet Nestlé again and again (and always for v.e.r.y good reasons), they never changed their ways. Not saying you shouldn't now. You will be very surprised how many products in fact are from Nestlé.

I quit drinking Nespresso a few months ago. Originally for other reasons.
Unfortunately, Cailler is Nestlé too :msnsad:

One wonders, what makes a Swiss company Swiss? (Or any company that advertises being a certain nationality).

ZuriRollt 29.05.2018 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2951373)
My entire life we boycottet Nestlé again and again (and always for v.e.r.y good reasons), they never changed their ways. Not saying you shouldn't now. You will be very surprised how many products in fact are from Nestlé.

I think that you will find that this is a very bad statement :msngrin:

bigblue2 29.05.2018 18:09

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Today only (Post 2951300)
You decided to misquote me .......

not at all, it was kinda a joke, but based on reality, all new CEO's are given targets / goals and their bonus's / remuneration are based on meeting these goals. Its a sad fact of life when you give people targets, especially when you link the targets to pay, then people will do just about anything to meet their targets and screw everything and everyone else, I've seen it over and over and over again just about everywhere I've ever worked.

You can multiply this effect by about 1000 when the new CEO has no former connection to the company. Target - cut costs, this always means cut staff, generally cost center staff, hey, IT are paid a lot, cut them, off shore, near shore etc etc, close expensive sites, stop infrastructure projects and upgrades etc etc

All of which is short sighted in the extreme, its time all companies woke up to the fact they are IT companies, that just so happen to sell food (or whatever) without IT they wouldn't even be able to make / receive a phone call or even get into the building let alone type into their cost benefit xls sheet to decide who stays and goes.

Then at the end of the year senior managers can all pat themselves on the back for increasing ebita while banking their share schemes / pension contributions / bonus before anyone works out they have totally screwed the company - just in time to hire a new CEO.

CorsebouTheReturn 29.05.2018 18:36

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2951373)
My entire life we boycottet Nestlé again and again (and always for v.e.r.y good reasons), they never changed their ways.

I quit drinking Nespresso a few months ago. Originally for other reasons.
Unfortunately, Cailler is Nestlé too :msnsad:

One wonders, what makes a Swiss company Swiss? (Or any company that advertises being a certain nationality).

I clearly never expected my own actions* to change the business of such a big corporate. Clearly the business would be impacted only if numerous customers are doing the same (which will most likely never happens).

Cailler is nestlé? Their factory is rubbish, treating people like cattle. Anyway, I prefer Belgium chocolate. :msncrazy:Ouch I can kiss goodbye to Swiss Nationality now :(


*But yeah anyway, I will do it more actively, hunt and ban Nestlé products.

EdwinNL 29.05.2018 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951425)
I clearly never expected my own actions* to change the business of such a big corporate. Clearly the business would be impacted only if numerous customers are doing the same (which will most likely never happens).

Cailler is nestlé? Their factory is rubbish, treating people like cattle. Anyway, I prefer Belgium chocolate. :msncrazy:Ouch I can kiss goodbye to Swiss Nationality now :(


*But yeah anyway, I will do it more actively, hunt and ban Nestlé products.

Would only make sense to me if you also would stop buying products from other companies who do the same.

Today only 29.05.2018 19:20

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2951395)
not at all, it was kinda a joke, but based on reality, all new CEO's are given targets / goals and their bonus's / remuneration are based on meeting these goals. Its a sad fact of life when you give people targets, especially when you link the targets to pay, then people will do just about anything to meet their targets and screw everything and everyone else, I've seen it over and over and over again just about everywhere I've ever worked.

You can multiply this effect by about 1000 when the new CEO has no former connection to the company. Target - cut costs, this always means cut staff, generally cost center staff, hey, IT are paid a lot, cut them, off shore, near shore etc etc, close expensive sites, stop infrastructure projects and upgrades etc etc

All of which is short sighted in the extreme, its time all companies woke up to the fact they are IT companies, that just so happen to sell food (or whatever) without IT they wouldn't even be able to make / receive a phone call or even get into the building let alone type into their cost benefit xls sheet to decide who stays and goes.

Then at the end of the year senior managers can all pat themselves on the back for increasing ebita while banking their share schemes / pension contributions / bonus before anyone works out they have totally screwed the company - just in time to hire a new CEO.




As a generalisation you are right, but for once, Nestle operates differently

k_and_e 29.05.2018 21:32

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2951395)
Then at the end of the year senior managers can all pat themselves on the back for increasing ebita while banking their share schemes / pension contributions / bonus before anyone works out they have totally screwed the company - just in time to hire a new CEO.

nearly correct. first you source out, get a bonus. then you get the usual mess, source everything in again and get another bonus.

Mikers 29.05.2018 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 2951276)

The employees are being offered relocation to Barcelona or Italy, but also being supported in finding something new here in CH / early pension etc.
.

Hi this is not the case as it a stands.

Today only 30.05.2018 01:05

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
I hear the objective is eventually 25% less people....

Samaire13 30.05.2018 06:54

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2951283)
interesting, I understand labour laws in Italy are some of the strictest around, so are they being re-located as full time open ended employee contracts or as contractors? and with a hefty pay cut I assume.

Probably a mix of all, but it doesn't matter. They don't think that far cause by the time any issues may arise, they've long been promoted as a reward for the awesome work they've done, and/or have moved on entirely, for the same reason, and of course after getting a nice little bonus and/or package. No one cares what happens 6-12 months from now.

What counts for now is short-term supposed savings of a few hundred $$ a month, though it's probably more expensive if you actually incorporated lack of efficiency in process and implementation. Or has outsourcing/offshoring of pretty much any service in any area ever seriously improved efficiency, in the mid- to long-run anyway? I have yet to find it.

The problem is not Nestle or any other company or even globalization. The problem is limited long-term considerations and pretending the random back and forth is due to "being flexible and dynamic", and of course a lack of accountability despite the shitloads they all get paid...

Blame it on greed and capitalism. Want to change something - start there. Marx might have been right after all.

bigblue2 30.05.2018 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Today only (Post 2951461)
As a generalisation you are right, but for once, Nestle operates differently

do they?? this is the same guy thats paying starbucks 7 billion to licence the brand for home use, now if you ignore the fact they are buying a brand to compete against THEMSELVES !?!?!?!?! have you ever heard anyone, ever, say they would like to have a starbucks coffee at home?? whats next? will he licence mcdonalds food for the home freezer market?

curley 30.05.2018 13:38

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CorsebouTheReturn (Post 2951177)
In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.......

This may help doing that.

Shit, my mustartd is Nestlé too :mad:

CorsebouTheReturn 30.05.2018 14:03

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2951753)
This may help doing that.

Shit, my mustartd is Nestlé too :mad:

Quite disappointing, it turns out, as per all categories in your list, that I am already not buying ANY nestlé products...

Not even the cereals (which I googled to see which one displayed their logo nestle cereals).

I did not know about St Pellegrino though ( I knew about Henniez, but my tap water is from a source located nearby Henniez and it tastes great).

lrako 20.07.2018 03:23

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
I am aware about Nespresso outsourcing their IT in Barcelona. This process started earlier this year. However, Vevey-HQ doing the same is a sign of changing times in the global economy. Even the Swiss do it wow !
The end of high salaries has begun for fortress Switzerland. It is high time it competes with the real world.

yacek 01.09.2018 20:01

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
https://www.letemps.ch/economie/nest...atique-vaudois
450 jobs are cut, not 500 as previously announced.
Still, almost half a thousand people dumped in a short time span...

Mikers 01.09.2018 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yacek (Post 2987240)
https://www.letemps.ch/economie/nest...atique-vaudois
450 jobs are cut, not 500 as previously announced.
Still, almost half a thousand people dumped in a short time span...

Yes but this is just good media usage. Nestle always planned 450 but by saying 500 then ‘listening’ to their employees they announce 450 and say ‘look, we care’. The same principle applies to the timeline: nestle now announce that it’s not until 2020 that people are going not 2019, however when you look at the numbers everyone is gone by end of 2019 except a handful who then go in a one-off extra wave in 2020.

I understand what nestle are doing - and I myself will be affected by this decision from them - but it’s a clumsy way to cut costs, we would have been better removing low performance employees globally, not simply getting a pen and putting a red line through Switzerland. This is a personal opinion only of course.

yacek 02.09.2018 00:00

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@Mikers:
What kind of positions are impacted? S/w dev? Or IT like data center, networking, support?

Mikers 02.09.2018 07:31

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yacek (Post 2987269)
@Mikers:
What kind of positions are impacted? S/w dev? Or IT like data center, networking, support?

All fields are affected, literally the lot. Remember though only senior IT is left here, all med and junior stuff is outsourced to low cost providers in other countries.

Even our work is not fully cut as we run FTS so IT lead also runs in the other tinesones and teams exist there too.

Today only 02.09.2018 09:45

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
The trouble is "low performance" employees are not expensive and easy to hire & fire....and it certainly doesn't provide the necessary headlines and cost savings to achieve there current objectives

robBob 02.09.2018 09:57

Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande
 
That's Skype for you! :cool:


But don't they have long siestas in Barcelona?

Fish Paste 02.09.2018 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Today only (Post 2987298)
The trouble is "low performance" employees are not expensive and easy to hire & fire....and it certainly doesn't provide the necessary headlines and cost savings to achieve there current objectives

Not entirely accurate.

You can have very high performing temps and say warehouse or admin staff, but low paid.
Equally low performing people who've been at the company for years, soaking up the pay rises and easily getting chf150k +, but are just chewing the cud.

I see it where I work, a sea of grey haired people, half of whom have been there for donkeys years, and could be replaced by lower cost, higher performing people.

I am one of those in the sea of grey by the way, my position already replicated in much lower cost locations, by more capable people.


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