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Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

Nestle announced today that they will cut 500 IT jobs in the Swiss Romande area (Bussigny and Vevey) and move the corporate IT responsibility to Barcelona. A total of 80 IT/Logistics jobs at Nespresso will also be cut.

These cuts will take place over the next 18 months.

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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

Yes almost all of us. At the hard end of what was expected.
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

It's even better, the business owner/marketing are using clever terms.
Jobs are moving to "the competency center" in Barcelona.

Clearly it's in fact "cheap(er) labor center", its funny how manipulation is done.

Swiss Romande is a cementary in terms of employment, despite the rumors running around that it's "getting better" in terms of employment (in the region and in Switzerland).

It's all happening in Zurich.
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

They've not finished yet, either
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

Looking at how hard is to get good IT people in ZH, maybe that's not too bad, hopefully some of those will come here and contribute to a fairly busy market!
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Old 29.05.2018, 14:22
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

Only 2% of profits come from CH, so don't waste your time. Switzerland is an irrelevant market for Nestle.

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In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.
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Old 29.05.2018, 15:20
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In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.
Can we also do this with banking though, where the numbers are far more out-reaching, but the same is happening. No-one complains there.

Not all people employed in banking are the ones you read about with "Golden Parachutes" etc.

A majority live in fear of their existence - earning liveable wages, learning to be flexible - e.g. an average of 8 Line Managers within 2 years because some genius comes in now and again to revolutionise - never knowing when they will genius you out of your bog-standard job to cut costs.

Massenentlassungen (mass redundancy) comes with obligations in Switzerland.
What many Banking companies do to circumvent this law is in my opinion criminal.
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Old 29.05.2018, 16:45
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In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.

Why? Because their business model is not supporting local economy.

Therefore, we can buy local equivalent products, which are usually better in numerous aspects anyway.

I'm not against businesses, I'm against manipulations and hypocrisy in work environments. They are making a strategical decision, I'm making one too.

Surely, I'm a drop in the ocean, if consumers started to realize they can fight back these businesses by cutting their business, they would and these situations would happen only in exceptional contexts, not when the companies are making huge profits.

Anyway it will be fun activity, identify nestle related products while shopping and buying other brands. A funny "egg hunt" game.
My entire life we boycottet Nestlé again and again (and always for v.e.r.y good reasons), they never changed their ways. Not saying you shouldn't now. You will be very surprised how many products in fact are from Nestlé.

I quit drinking Nespresso a few months ago. Originally for other reasons.
Unfortunately, Cailler is Nestlé too

One wonders, what makes a Swiss company Swiss? (Or any company that advertises being a certain nationality).
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Old 30.05.2018, 12:38
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In fact, it's simple. We can boycot Nestle products.......
This may help doing that.

Shit, my mustartd is Nestlé too
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I am afraid that several IT and digital jbs are going away... definitely.
That's the new ecnomy. Winner takes all (before being lser), and faster than we can adapt ourself in this "rat race" !!!
What is the next tsunami?

Competition my friend... global competition! Go see overseas.

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I am afraid that several IT and digital jbs are going away... definitely.
That's the new ecnomy. Winner takes all (before being lser), and faster than we can adapt ourself in this "rat race" !!!
What is the next tsunami?
I don't mind. I love new technologies and I always evolve and adapt.

What I mind is the fact that the crappy managers who failed to anticipate, listen to changes are the one making the decision, keeping their business and screwing others in the process.

Because less face it, they can pick and choose who's staying and leaving and higher management have usually poor visibility on that, they simply get "glorified reports" and support their lower management.

So evolution, adaptation, redundancies are part of healthy business lifecycle.

Respect, anticipation, training, fair communication should also be basis and would certainly ease the situation during difficult times.

That's not happening in numerous companies and managers are in control. I simply wish that if the plane is going to crash, because of pilot mistake, then the pilot should go with it.
And if the plane has to crash due to external circumstances, that's terribly sad, but part of life and that's a different situation.

Of course, then it's also the passengers responsabilities to get out of the plane as soon as they realize how crappy their pilot is, that's another story.
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Nestle announced today that they will cut 500 IT jobs in the Swiss Romande area (Bussigny and Vevey) and move the corporate IT responsibility to Barcelona. A total of 80 IT/Logistics jobs at Nespresso will also be cut.

These cuts will take place over the next 18 months.
It's fact.

The employees are being offered relocation to Barcelona or Italy, but also being supported in finding something new here in CH / early pension etc.

A touch better than UBS recently relocating their Operations to Schaffhausen (easy commuting distant from the cheaper Germany labor market), and giving the impacted Zürich employees the chance to relocate there.
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Old 29.05.2018, 14:59
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Re: Nestle cuts 580 IT/Logistics jobs in Swiss Romande

interesting, I understand labour laws in Italy are some of the strictest around, so are they being re-located as full time open ended employee contracts or as contractors? and with a hefty pay cut I assume.
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interesting, I understand labour laws in Italy are some of the strictest around, so are they being re-located as full time open ended employee contracts or as contractors? and with a hefty pay cut I assume.
Probably a mix of all, but it doesn't matter. They don't think that far cause by the time any issues may arise, they've long been promoted as a reward for the awesome work they've done, and/or have moved on entirely, for the same reason, and of course after getting a nice little bonus and/or package. No one cares what happens 6-12 months from now.

What counts for now is short-term supposed savings of a few hundred $$ a month, though it's probably more expensive if you actually incorporated lack of efficiency in process and implementation. Or has outsourcing/offshoring of pretty much any service in any area ever seriously improved efficiency, in the mid- to long-run anyway? I have yet to find it.

The problem is not Nestle or any other company or even globalization. The problem is limited long-term considerations and pretending the random back and forth is due to "being flexible and dynamic", and of course a lack of accountability despite the shitloads they all get paid...

Blame it on greed and capitalism. Want to change something - start there. Marx might have been right after all.
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The employees are being offered relocation to Barcelona or Italy, but also being supported in finding something new here in CH / early pension etc.
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Hi this is not the case as it a stands.
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I hear the objective is eventually 25% less people....
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And now they started hiring again?
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And now they started hiring again?
These are the retained positions in Switzerland which total around 50-100. In the main they have been internal appointments from the existing staff but where a suitable candidate has not been found they were clear in that they would then open it up to all. So yes there will be positions opened for vacancies which the existing set of people being laid off have not been able to fill.

Whether it’s right / wrong to do this is another question but it is the reason you can see it.
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These are the retained positions in Switzerland which total around 50-100. In the main they have been internal appointments from the existing staff but where a suitable candidate has not been found they were clear in that they would then open it up to all. So yes there will be positions opened for vacancies which the existing set of people being laid off have not been able to fill.

Whether it’s right / wrong to do this is another question but it is the reason you can see it.
Horrific display of disrespect.
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